Comments on: Gun battle between fugitive Dorner and police underway; cops ask to press to "stop tweeting"

By: Aaron Gilliland

Aaron Gilliland — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:26:00 +0000

That’s just what the PLO wants you to think.

By: Aaron Gilliland

Aaron Gilliland — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:21:00 +0000

The Lutonian Liberation Front.

By: Aaron Gilliland

Aaron Gilliland — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:19:00 +0000

What? Alien? So you know, huh? *grabs a space radio*

“Control? Control? This is Delphar-7. My mission is in jeopardy. Destroy planet!”

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:19:00 +0000

MOVE in Philadelphia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:15:00 +0000

Would the truth of the situation be less real if it wasn’t released for an hour?

Have you read any of the back story? Do you even know that this started because of the LAPD covering up their own crimes?

By: Aaron Gilliland

Aaron Gilliland — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:12:00 +0000

“Tear gas” is an umbrella term that covers CS, CN (Mace), CR, pepper spray, etc., but we’re probably talking about CS.

The actual tear-inducing chemical, CS, isn’t the problem, at least in terms of flammability. It’s the delivery method. CS powder can be dry-sprayed like garden dust, wet-sprayed as a liquid, vaporized using solvent, etc.

Pyrotechnic CS rounds were used at Waco, including the M-651 40mm grenade-launcer round and the Flite-Rite 37mm barricade round. The M-651 burns a resin to make smoke, the Flite-Rite burns a mixture that includes guncotton. Land a hot, gas-generating round in the right spot and *poof*.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:11:00 +0000

Dude. IT’S NOT MUNICH! It’s one guy. In the woods.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:07:00 +0000

This, on the other hand, is not the Olympic Village in Munich. It’s an isolated mountain cabin surrounded by tall trees. You have to be in a helicopter directly over it to see it.

By: Leeroy Berlin

Leeroy Berlin — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:02:00 +0000

There’s a very good reason they’re the most hated cops in the free world.

By: allenels

allenels — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:36:00 +0000

Could you give me the “evidence” that proves that Dorner killed the two young people in the garage of their condo? I am serious and not trying to provoke you….I have read a lot about the case, and I have not seen any verified facts that Dorner killed these two young people. “He owned the gun, the ammo and was seen in the vicinity before or very soon after the murder…” Please help me with this evidence?

By: allenels

allenels — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:06:00 +0000

What “evidence” has been released? What physical evidence ties him to the murders? His posted “manifesto”? We, meaning the public and the media only know what we have been told and what has been released may not be fact. I recall a national disgrace associated with the medias preoccupation and reportage about “weapons of mass destruction.” What do we really know about this case? Very, very little. The sad thing – we are supposed to be a nation of laws and yet so many people believe his death is acceptable because we “think” he may have committed these crimes. Citizens who applaud this young man’s death because he was a perceived threat are icing the very slippery slope of how law enforcement personnel view he average citizen.

By: allenels

allenels — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:58:00 +0000

Have you spent any time the those mountains surrounding Los Angeles? Unless that “cabin” had satellite or cable, Dorner would not have had a signal for his smart phone. Also, I could have sworn there are First Amendment rights that should have precluded the police…”request.”

By: allenels

allenels — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:47:00 +0000

Th correct term is “alleged” to have killed!

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:44:00 +0000

(not that the US pays any attention to the rest of the Geneva Convention… but still)

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:42:00 +0000

Noted somewhere else (maybe on this comment thread), incendry tear-gas grenades violate the Geneva convention.

I found out today that the Geneva Convention doesn’t apply to the police; and even more interestingly, “The U.S. ratified all the Geneva Conventions with the exception of the two protocols of 1977.”; what protocols where they? “[The Geneva Convention] was amended in 1977 with two protocols that further protect civilians during wartime and address armed conflicts within a nation”.

Oh.

By: CSBD

CSBD — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:20:00 +0000

There was another incident in Philadelphia where the cops dropped a bomb on a house from a helicopter. The bomb started a fire that eventually burned 67 homes to the ground.

I never said cops do this all the time, i was just pointing out that the cops do from time to time go a bit apeshit.

By: artbyjcm

artbyjcm — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:16:00 +0000

Wow. You’ve opened the doors for many movie moments where I went “Hah, yeah right, that guy would be dead.” to suddenly being “That scene seemed rather feasible.”

By: artbyjcm

artbyjcm — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:15:00 +0000

They’ve been unreasonably trigger happy in response.

By: artbyjcm

artbyjcm — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:14:00 +0000

If they catch him, he’s going to be dead. Even if he surrenders I think they want him dead. That’s why they’ve been so frigging trigger-happy.

By: cub

cub — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:00:00 +0000

eyedeas for one-eyed avatars are fine in my book.

By: cub

cub — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:55:00 +0000

SANDY HOOK, LATHER, RINSE, REPEAT.

By: Cowicide

Cowicide — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:55:00 +0000

Read what I said again.

Maybe you should do the same with my words? “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Ben Franklin

By: brucearthurs

brucearthurs — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:52:00 +0000

There are few “dirty cops”. I define that as police whose activities are clearly inside the criminal line: taking bribes, getting in bed with drug dealers, doing murder-for-hire on the side, etc. But there are lots — LOTS — of “dingy cops” who look the other way, who keep silent, who bend (if not quite break) the rules. If I were asked which was the greater problem for society, I’d have to go with the dingy cops.

By: cub

cub — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:49:00 +0000

EXACTLY.

By: cub

cub — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:47:00 +0000

lookatthisfuckingmanhunt.tumblr

By: cub

cub — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:40:00 +0000

other than the blue wall of silence that always exists, i haven’t seen any “conspiracy theories” here.

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:32:00 +0000

Reading your original comment I’m not entirely convinced that my reply was intended for you I’m afraid!

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:29:00 +0000

@dragonfrog That shouldn’t matter, their job is to protect and serve the public.

By: dragonfrog

dragonfrog — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:27:00 +0000

The usual method of suicide by cop involves targetting one specific cop, in an attack that can’t possibly succeed, but forces the cop to use lethal force- a 50-yard charge with a knife, or pulling an unloaded gun, for instance. The point is to make your own nonviolent arrest impossible.

But Dorner managed to go one better – he made the cops give up on even attempting to arrest him. That method of suicide by cop only works when you’re dealing with a police force chock full of willing murderers.

That’s something special.

By: dragonfrog

dragonfrog — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:23:00 +0000

The suspects aren’t usually explicitly targetting cops.