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	<title>Comments on: Newspaper editor on website that scooped it: don&#039;t trust them, we&#039;re the&#160;pros!</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1656529</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, he claimed to have spoken with her and then retracted it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, he claimed to have spoken with her and then retracted it.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1656341</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mullin&#039;s article doesn&#039;t exactly line up with my recollection of how sports reporters worked&lt;/blockquote&gt;It would likely be very different if you lived in NYC/ LA/ SF or anywhere that had something going on &lt;i&gt;besides&lt;/i&gt; sports.  In places like Ohio, local teams are often a central defining factor in civic and personal identity.  If all that you have besides your shitty factory job or your unemployment check is a very successful high school football team, your priorities can get pretty bent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mullin&#8217;s article doesn&#8217;t exactly line up with my recollection of how sports reporters worked</p></blockquote>
<p>It would likely be very different if you lived in NYC/ LA/ SF or anywhere that had something going on <i>besides</i> sports.  In places like Ohio, local teams are often a central defining factor in civic and personal identity.  If all that you have besides your shitty factory job or your unemployment check is a very successful high school football team, your priorities can get pretty bent.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Johnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1656181</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with the Manti Te&#039;o story was that they DIDN&#039;T get Manti&#039;s side, and presented it like he was complicit with the girlfriend hoax.  Since the story broke, absolutely no evidence has surfaced to support that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the Manti Te&#8217;o story was that they DIDN&#8217;T get Manti&#8217;s side, and presented it like he was complicit with the girlfriend hoax.  Since the story broke, absolutely no evidence has surfaced to support that.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Diekman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1656053</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Diekman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, get off our lawn! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, get off our lawn! </p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655948</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Except the part about editing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Except the part about editing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Whitacre</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655712</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Whitacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth pointing out the Deadspin broke the stories on Brett Favre&#039;s alleged sexting and the whole Manti Te&#039;o thing. They&#039;re pretty darn good at what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth pointing out the Deadspin broke the stories on Brett Favre&#8217;s alleged sexting and the whole Manti Te&#8217;o thing. They&#8217;re pretty darn good at what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Artor</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655685</link>
		<dc:creator>Artor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was Christopher Hitchen&#039;s advice, wasn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was Christopher Hitchen&#8217;s advice, wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: gracchus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655631</link>
		<dc:creator>gracchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been quite the week for dysfunctional institutions: the LAPD, the Roman Catholic Church, college sports programmes. I can understand the despair over their ever changing or being changed by a society that seems to give them free passes. Even the whistle-blowers seem exhausted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been quite the week for dysfunctional institutions: the LAPD, the Roman Catholic Church, college sports programmes. I can understand the despair over their ever changing or being changed by a society that seems to give them free passes. Even the whistle-blowers seem exhausted.</p>
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		<title>By: gracchus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655626</link>
		<dc:creator>gracchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mullin&#039;s article doesn&#039;t exactly line up with my recollection of how sports reporters worked: very often they didn&#039;t give a damn about biting the hand the fed them, more so that reporters on other beats. Every reporter was dependent on credentials and access, but I found the sports guys to be more willing to risk them and take an aggressive stance I wished other beat reporters did.

That said, their criticisms had more to do with idiotic decisions by team managers and coaches, sub-par performance by the athletes, and the avarice and arrogant incompetence of team owners than it did about higher-stakes issues like sexual harassment and criminal-level corruption. And maybe it was just the reporters I worked with, who were older established guys working in a large market. I do remember there was one sports reporter at a rival outlet they never tired of mocking for the sloppy wet kisses and softball questions he gave to anyone whose team gave him access, but I figured he was an exception.

In any case, Brown is correct: a professional journalist (which Autullo and Brown both are, being paid to write) not only respects the wishes of his sources regarding anonymity when possible but also attempts to get all sides of the story, not just the side of those that your access gatekeepers who will go on record want to present. I understand the defensiveness of those working in a distressed industry like newspapers, but in 2013 the idea that putting one&#039;s story on newsprint instead of pixels makes it more valid journalism is a bit silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mullin&#8217;s article doesn&#8217;t exactly line up with my recollection of how sports reporters worked: very often they didn&#8217;t give a damn about biting the hand the fed them, more so that reporters on other beats. Every reporter was dependent on credentials and access, but I found the sports guys to be more willing to risk them and take an aggressive stance I wished other beat reporters did.</p>
<p>That said, their criticisms had more to do with idiotic decisions by team managers and coaches, sub-par performance by the athletes, and the avarice and arrogant incompetence of team owners than it did about higher-stakes issues like sexual harassment and criminal-level corruption. And maybe it was just the reporters I worked with, who were older established guys working in a large market. I do remember there was one sports reporter at a rival outlet they never tired of mocking for the sloppy wet kisses and softball questions he gave to anyone whose team gave him access, but I figured he was an exception.</p>
<p>In any case, Brown is correct: a professional journalist (which Autullo and Brown both are, being paid to write) not only respects the wishes of his sources regarding anonymity when possible but also attempts to get all sides of the story, not just the side of those that your access gatekeepers who will go on record want to present. I understand the defensiveness of those working in a distressed industry like newspapers, but in 2013 the idea that putting one&#8217;s story on newsprint instead of pixels makes it more valid journalism is a bit silly.</p>
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		<title>By: John Desmarais</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655616</link>
		<dc:creator>John Desmarais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the way I read this, &#039;sports reporters&#039; aren&#039;t actually journalists, but are instead outside PR writers for the sports-entertainment industry.  Good to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the way I read this, &#8216;sports reporters&#8217; aren&#8217;t actually journalists, but are instead outside PR writers for the sports-entertainment industry.  Good to know.</p>
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		<title>By: howaboutthisdangit</title>
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		<dc:creator>howaboutthisdangit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The difference between the coverage of this story by The Blade and Deadspin is that The Blade does not cover sports stories, it simply regurgitates the PR that it is generously given.&quot;

Fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The difference between the coverage of this story by The Blade and Deadspin is that The Blade does not cover sports stories, it simply regurgitates the PR that it is generously given.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mordicai</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655604</link>
		<dc:creator>Mordicai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says print is dead?!

...oh, the Toledo Blade does?  Oh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says print is dead?!</p>
<p>&#8230;oh, the Toledo Blade does?  Oh.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Beschizza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655571</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Beschizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Write drunk, edit high</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Write drunk, edit high</p>
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		<title>By: JayeRandom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655561</link>
		<dc:creator>JayeRandom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sleepless vanguard&quot; is an interesting turn of phrase, Rob.  Is it your own creation? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;sleepless vanguard&#8221; is an interesting turn of phrase, Rob.  Is it your own creation? </p>
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		<title>By: Rezeya Montecore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rezeya Montecore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be your brand of coffee? Why the hell are you asking us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be your brand of coffee? Why the hell are you asking us?</p>
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		<title>By: MosesZD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MosesZD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s worse.   They&#039;re complicit in covering up the worst of the crap and making dirtbags into &#039;heroes.&#039;   You look at Eddie DeBartolo&#039;s history.  Not the BS the bought-and-paid-for press will tell you, but his history of assulting fans of other teams, the attempted rape of Regina Baross (covered up with help of Carmen &#039;Attorney for Mobsters&#039; Policy, Dwight Clarke and Tom Rathman), his alcoholism, his other stupidity...

And yet read the press, and he&#039;s a Saint because Walsh, not DeBartolo, built the 49ers into a great organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s worse.   They&#8217;re complicit in covering up the worst of the crap and making dirtbags into &#8216;heroes.&#8217;   You look at Eddie DeBartolo&#8217;s history.  Not the BS the bought-and-paid-for press will tell you, but his history of assulting fans of other teams, the attempted rape of Regina Baross (covered up with help of Carmen &#8216;Attorney for Mobsters&#8217; Policy, Dwight Clarke and Tom Rathman), his alcoholism, his other stupidity&#8230;</p>
<p>And yet read the press, and he&#8217;s a Saint because Walsh, not DeBartolo, built the 49ers into a great organization.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have the capacity to feel for the people around me. But I am running out of capacity to feel outrage over high-school and college jocks and their coaches getting away with rape and assault. Since no prosecutor will prosecute, and those prosecutors keep getting re-elected; since no jury convicts on the rare occasions that cases are so egregious that they do make it into a courtroom? I have concluded that only a cranky handful of us aren&#039;t okay with this, that we as a society have decided that sufficiently successful athletes get a window in life, from around age 15 to age 25, when they can commit as much rape and other mayhem as they want; by extension, we grant the same right to their coaches. I can&#039;t change the culture, and I&#039;m exhausted from chronic outrage, so, yeah ... yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have the capacity to feel for the people around me. But I am running out of capacity to feel outrage over high-school and college jocks and their coaches getting away with rape and assault. Since no prosecutor will prosecute, and those prosecutors keep getting re-elected; since no jury convicts on the rare occasions that cases are so egregious that they do make it into a courtroom? I have concluded that only a cranky handful of us aren&#8217;t okay with this, that we as a society have decided that sufficiently successful athletes get a window in life, from around age 15 to age 25, when they can commit as much rape and other mayhem as they want; by extension, we grant the same right to their coaches. I can&#8217;t change the culture, and I&#8217;m exhausted from chronic outrage, so, yeah &#8230; yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: bazzargh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655515</link>
		<dc:creator>bazzargh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So, sports reporters and editors are willing to put up with rules and restrictions that no other journalists would tolerate….and a lot of those rules are unwritten&quot;

In Scottish Football, this is called &quot;succulent lamb journalism&quot; after a famously   obsequious article, fulsome in its praise of a club&#039;s plans and the meal the club gave to the writer.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succulent_lamb

Despite that article being 14 years old now the phrase and the scandal lives on, with the same journalist in the spotlight this week for passing articles to club owners for prior approval.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, sports reporters and editors are willing to put up with rules and restrictions that no other journalists would tolerate….and a lot of those rules are unwritten&#8221;</p>
<p>In Scottish Football, this is called &#8220;succulent lamb journalism&#8221; after a famously   obsequious article, fulsome in its praise of a club&#8217;s plans and the meal the club gave to the writer.<br />
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succulent_lamb</p>
<p>Despite that article being 14 years old now the phrase and the scandal lives on, with the same journalist in the spotlight this week for passing articles to club owners for prior approval.</p>
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		<title>By: Dlo Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dlo Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re losing the capacity to feel and the people around you don&#039;t even care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re losing the capacity to feel and the people around you don&#8217;t even care.</p>
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		<title>By: FusionEnvy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2013/02/13/newspaper-editor-on-website-th.html#comment-1655474</link>
		<dc:creator>FusionEnvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why did this article feel like a total waste of my time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why did this article feel like a total waste of my time?</p>
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		<title>By: peterblue11</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterblue11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>house of cards viral ad? :0</description>
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		<title>By: Mark McAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark McAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. With the cédille and everything. Lovely stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. With the cédille and everything. Lovely stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake0748</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake0748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really have anything to add here.  But since you used the word, soupçons, I just have to send some love.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really have anything to add here.  But since you used the word, soupçons, I just have to send some love.  </p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Then&quot; in the subject should be &quot;Them&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then&#8221; in the subject should be &#8220;Them&#8221; </p>
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