Comments on: Amanda Palmer on Björk's failed Kickstarter to port Biophilia to Android/Windows 8 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 21:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: TheMudshark http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656775 TheMudshark Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656775 I agree with Amanda Palmer that everyone has the right to ask for money. I also agree with everyone who would stab themselves in the throat with a rusty cucumber before giving their money to rich people to fund overpriced projects. I agree with Amanda Palmer that everyone has the right to ask for money. I also agree with everyone who would stab themselves in the throat with a rusty cucumber before giving their money to rich people to fund overpriced projects.

]]> By: lafave http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656656 lafave Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656656 Obama is a servant of the 1% - see the lack of prosecutions on Wall Street, as but an example (or many many examples).  Obama is a servant of the 1% – see the lack of prosecutions on Wall Street, as but an example (or many many examples). 

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656421 Cowicide Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656421 I think it's a bit of a stretch to blame the Occupy Wall Street movement on her failed Kickstarter bid.  Maybe there just wasn't enough interest in the project? <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/appsblog/2013/feb/08/bjork-cancels-biophilia-kickstarter" rel="nofollow">From this article</a>: (emphasis mine) Veteran developer Peter Molyneux experienced these kinds of grumbles within the games industry, for example, with his Project Godus campaign, although that was <b>successful in surpassing its £450k goal</b>. I think it’s a bit of a stretch to blame the Occupy Wall Street movement on her failed Kickstarter bid.  Maybe there just wasn’t enough interest in the project?

From this article: (emphasis mine)
Veteran developer Peter Molyneux experienced these kinds of grumbles within the games industry, for example, with his Project Godus campaign, although that was successful in surpassing its £450k goal.

]]> By: C W http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656309 C W Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656309 "The downside has been a notably heightened antipathy towards the wealthier members of society (or even just the comparatively successful ones), even when they're attempting positive contributions to society (including charitable contributions). This is not good, as a whole lot of cultural infrastructure which we all enjoy today originated from deep-pockets charity." I can see why you support the Democratic party over progressive interests. “The downside has been a notably heightened antipathy towards the wealthier members of society (or even just the comparatively successful ones), even when they’re attempting positive contributions to society (including charitable contributions). This is not good, as a whole lot of cultural infrastructure which we all enjoy today originated from deep-pockets charity.”

I can see why you support the Democratic party over progressive interests.

]]> By: GawainLavers http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656193 GawainLavers Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656193 I think we're confusing noise for signal.  I'm guessing the failure has more to do with a virtually non-intersecting Venn diagram of old people who know who Bjork is and young people who know what Kickstarter is. I think we’re confusing noise for signal.  I’m guessing the failure has more to do with a virtually non-intersecting Venn diagram of old people who know who Bjork is and young people who know what Kickstarter is.

]]> By: chaopoiesis http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656178 chaopoiesis Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656178 Call me tri-state. Call me tri-state.

]]> By: ZikZak http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656106 ZikZak Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656106 She was not contributing to a charity.  She was asking other people to give her money, some of which she would then give to charity.  Somehow I doubt that she was going to be doing the Android porting either, she was going to give another bit of the money to someone else to do that for her. If this was really about porting Biophilia, and not just cashing in, why not crowdsource the porting effort directly?  I  bet there's some people out there who would do awesome stuff with it if it was free software and creative commons media. She was not contributing to a charity.  She was asking other people to give her money, some of which she would then give to charity.  Somehow I doubt that she was going to be doing the Android porting either, she was going to give another bit of the money to someone else to do that for her.

If this was really about porting Biophilia, and not just cashing in, why not crowdsource the porting effort directly?  I  bet there’s some people out there who would do awesome stuff with it if it was free software and creative commons media.

]]> By: chaopoiesis http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656039 chaopoiesis Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656039 The upside of the Occupy Wall Street movement (and its introduction of "the 1%" into the common lexicon) is we got Obama for a second term and a Democrat senate to boot. This is good. The downside has been a notably heightened antipathy towards the wealthier members of society (or even just the comparatively successful ones), even when they're attempting positive contributions to society (including charitable contributions). This is not good, as a whole lot of cultural infrastructure which we all enjoy today originated from deep-pockets charity. The upside of the Occupy Wall Street movement (and its introduction of “the 1%” into the common lexicon) is we got Obama for a second term and a Democrat senate to boot. This is good.

The downside has been a notably heightened antipathy towards the wealthier members of society (or even just the comparatively successful ones), even when they’re attempting positive contributions to society (including charitable contributions). This is not good, as a whole lot of cultural infrastructure which we all enjoy today originated from deep-pockets charity.

]]> By: Lemoutan http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656034 Lemoutan Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656034 Kickstarters, of necessity, must accept any pjört in a størm. Kickstarters, of necessity, must accept any pjört in a størm.

]]> By: Gerald Mander http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1656010 Gerald Mander Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1656010  Suppjört the pjört!  Suppjört the pjört!

]]> By: Mauricio Rivera http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1655997 Mauricio Rivera Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1655997 pjört is tight pjört is tight

]]> By: madopal http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1655965 madopal Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1655965 Oh, pjört needs to move into the vernacular.  A pricey, senseless port, perhaps? Oh, pjört needs to move into the vernacular.  A pricey, senseless port, perhaps?

]]> By: DocPop http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1655947 DocPop Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1655947 The weird capitalization thing in Amanda's post made that super hard to read. No caps here, all caps there.. She's right, obviously, anyone has the right to do a Kickstarter project, but she's just picking a few bad comments to illustrate her point. I really don't believe that most folks were angry to see a pseudo-celebrity trying to crowdfund a project. The project probably collapsed because it was asking an exuberant amount of cash without really communicating what that was all for. I think if anyone were to put up a $600,000 project which was mostly to move their software from one platform to another, with extremely vague talk about a charity for kids, we'd all be saying "WTF?". Most folks I had heard from were excited to see Björk trying out crowdfunding, but $600,000.... that's one pricey pjört! The weird capitalization thing in Amanda’s post made that super hard to read. No caps here, all caps there..

She’s right, obviously, anyone has the right to do a Kickstarter project, but she’s just picking a few bad comments to illustrate her point. I really don’t believe that most folks were angry to see a pseudo-celebrity trying to crowdfund a project. The project probably collapsed because it was asking an exuberant amount of cash without really communicating what that was all for. I think if anyone were to put up a $600,000 project which was mostly to move their software from one platform to another, with extremely vague talk about a charity for kids, we’d all be saying “WTF?”. Most folks I had heard from were excited to see Björk trying out crowdfunding, but $600,000….

that’s one pricey pjört!

]]> By: lafave http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1655940 lafave Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1655940 "here’s what i think: THE MARKET IS EFFICIENT." Hell - even Posner has backed away from that position. And the reaction of the critics (nerdrage) belies the efficiency hypothesis. “here’s what i think: THE MARKET IS EFFICIENT.”

Hell – even Posner has backed away from that position.

And the reaction of the critics (nerdrage) belies the efficiency hypothesis.

]]> By: EggyToast http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1655908 EggyToast Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1655908  She apparently has one, if she's creating colons and double-quotes and question marks. Very inconsistent of her!  She apparently has one, if she’s creating colons and double-quotes and question marks. Very inconsistent of her!

]]> By: spacemunky http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/amanda-palmer-on-bjorks-fail.html#comment-1655892 spacemunky Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=212926#comment-1655892 What we really need is a Kickstarter to buy Amanda a shift key. What we really need is a Kickstarter to buy Amanda a shift key.

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