Comments on: Six-strikes US copyright punishments will harm open WiFi http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Brendon J. Wilson http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1658094 Brendon J. Wilson Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1658094 There is a very simple response to these schemes: organize online to report anyone who supports these laws, rules, provisions, or whatever they're called for copyright infringement. Multiple times. If there's no penalty for making false or unsubstantiated copyright infringement claims, then that would seem to be an apt solution that will ensure people who support these schemes quickly change their opinion. There is a very simple response to these schemes: organize online to report anyone who supports these laws, rules, provisions, or whatever they’re called for copyright infringement. Multiple times.

If there’s no penalty for making false or unsubstantiated copyright infringement claims, then that would seem to be an apt solution that will ensure people who support these schemes quickly change their opinion.

]]> By: bill_mcgonigle http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1657408 bill_mcgonigle Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1657408 This would hurt public WiFi and yet it's being supported by broadband providers who would like to sell more residential lines and cell phone companies who would like to charge for me 3/4G data?  You don't say. BTW, IPv6 would solve this and it's not being deployed by those same providers. This would hurt public WiFi and yet it’s being supported by broadband providers who would like to sell more residential lines and cell phone companies who would like to charge for me 3/4G data?  You don’t say.

BTW, IPv6 would solve this and it’s not being deployed by those same providers.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1657393 That_Anonymous_Coward Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1657393 Just like the DMCA process, I doubt that any ISP will offer a way for regular people to submit complaints.  Only corporations can be infringed, and seek to stop evil doers... Just like the DMCA process, I doubt that any ISP will offer a way for regular people to submit complaints.  Only corporations can be infringed, and seek to stop evil doers…

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1657389 That_Anonymous_Coward Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1657389 It is what they are not saying that is important. The record of strikes is kept attached to your ISP records, and will be provided to the **AA's by court order.  They will use the "evidence" of those 6 strikes to sue people, in a very showy public trial. In a civil case, the burden of proof is more likely than not... and having 6 black marks against you from this fine upstanding group should show the court your obviously a criminal who needs to be punished. It is what they are not saying that is important.
The record of strikes is kept attached to your ISP records, and will be provided to the **AA’s by court order.  They will use the “evidence” of those 6 strikes to sue people, in a very showy public trial.
In a civil case, the burden of proof is more likely than not… and having 6 black marks against you from this fine upstanding group should show the court your obviously a criminal who needs to be punished.

]]> By: steckFACE http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656738 steckFACE Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656738 Funny thing about the OTM portrayal is that after you got past the sixth strike- you are left alone?!  Once everyone experiences being warned, getting educated and then 48 hours of reduced-speed internet, then what? 6-strikes seems like a speed bump.... http://www.onthemedia.org/2013/feb/01/copyright-alert-system-and-six-strikes/ Funny thing about the OTM portrayal is that after you got past the sixth strike- you are left alone?!  Once everyone experiences being warned, getting educated and then 48 hours of reduced-speed internet, then what? 6-strikes seems like a speed bump….
http://www.onthemedia.org/2013/feb/01/copyright-alert-system-and-six-strikes/

]]> By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656726 fuzzyfuzzyfungus Fri, 15 Feb 2013 06:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656726 Given that this mechanism is likely on the fast-track to mass scale abuse (just like DMCA takedowns), it really does seem uncharitable not to spread the love as widely as possible. There are hundreds, thousands, of jackboots-in-suits who are complicit in the workaday scheming of the CCI and its vile collaborators. Warm up the dox and let the complaints flow! Given that this mechanism is likely on the fast-track to mass scale abuse (just like DMCA takedowns), it really does seem uncharitable not to spread the love as widely as possible.

There are hundreds, thousands, of jackboots-in-suits who are complicit in the workaday scheming of the CCI and its vile collaborators. Warm up the dox and let the complaints flow!

]]> By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656728 fuzzyfuzzyfungus Fri, 15 Feb 2013 06:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656728 Collateral damage never killed anybody important... Collateral damage never killed anybody important…

]]> By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656721 fuzzyfuzzyfungus Fri, 15 Feb 2013 06:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656721 The disgusting thing about courts is that they embody (and on rare occasions stoop so far as to <em>practice</em>) the theory that disputants are equal before the law. That sort of nonsense just won't do. The disgusting thing about courts is that they embody (and on rare occasions stoop so far as to practice) the theory that disputants are equal before the law.

That sort of nonsense just won’t do.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656702 That_Anonymous_Coward Fri, 15 Feb 2013 05:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656702 You won't need to.  The company doing the detection for them also sends out DMCA notices for other customers... like HBO.  They reported several pages on HBO.com serving pirated content and demanded Google remove them... I'm sure their system is well tuned. http://torrentfreak.com/hbo-wants-google-to-censor-hbo-com-130203/ You won’t need to.  The company doing the detection for them also sends out DMCA notices for other customers… like HBO.  They reported several pages on HBO.com serving pirated content and demanded Google remove them… I’m sure their system is well tuned.
http://torrentfreak.com/hbo-wants-google-to-censor-hbo-com-130203/

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656699 That_Anonymous_Coward Fri, 15 Feb 2013 05:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656699 For bonus points get the whole board of CCI. For bonus points get the whole board of CCI.

]]> By: Zachary Horst http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656585 Zachary Horst Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656585 Stuff like this makes me want to start pirating stuff. Stuff like this makes me want to start pirating stuff.

]]> By: crenquis http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656574 crenquis Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656574 It is possible to set up a wireless router to use TOR (The Onion Router), however, I don't think that there are any user-friendly methods yet and most of the OpenWRT + TOR projects are in alpha/beta stage.  Just do a search for:  opnenwrt tor There was an OnionBox router project that was working towards a hardware turnkey solution, but I haven't seen any news about it for at least a year. It is possible to set up a wireless router to use TOR (The Onion Router), however, I don’t think that there are any user-friendly methods yet and most of the OpenWRT + TOR projects are in alpha/beta stage.  Just do a search for:  opnenwrt tor
There was an OnionBox router project that was working towards a hardware turnkey solution, but I haven’t seen any news about it for at least a year.

]]> By: blissfulight http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656537 blissfulight Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656537 What simple countermeasures can a small business employ to make sure they don't get 'caught' by the ISPs for infringing activity?   What simple countermeasures can a small business employ to make sure they don’t get ‘caught’ by the ISPs for infringing activity?  

]]> By: crenquis http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656501 crenquis Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656501 Don't worry about copyright trolls killing open WiFi... Patent trolls, Innovatio, will take care of open WiFi before one has a chance for six strikes. Don’t worry about copyright trolls killing open WiFi…
Patent trolls, Innovatio, will take care of open WiFi before one has a chance for six strikes.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656485 oasisob1 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656485 But courts are expensive and time-consuming and bothersome. Plus all that legal stuff. It's much faster and easier and cooler to make agreements with other corporations. But courts are expensive and time-consuming and bothersome. Plus all that legal stuff. It’s much faster and easier and cooler to make agreements with other corporations.

]]> By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656454 fuzzyfuzzyfungus Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656454 It would probably be our civic duty as well as entertaining...I, um, mean bad and wicked and naughty, to ensure that Ms. Lesser's home connection is never without copyright complaints... The consequences are so mild and reasonable that she'd probably enjoy it. It would probably be our civic duty as well as entertaining…I, um, mean bad and wicked and naughty, to ensure that Ms. Lesser’s home connection is never without copyright complaints… The consequences are so mild and reasonable that she’d probably enjoy it.

]]> By: Jeremiah Cornelius http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656441 Jeremiah Cornelius Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656441 All open WiFi should be coupled with TOR. It would be configuration-free to the users of the service. Why isn't this type of AP a raspberry Pi project for DL? Or a common OpenWRT variant? All open WiFi should be coupled with TOR. It would be configuration-free to the users of the service.

Why isn’t this type of AP a raspberry Pi project for DL? Or a common OpenWRT variant?

]]> By: Xof http://boingboing.net/2013/02/14/six-strikes-us-copyright-punis.html#comment-1656434 Xof Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=213133#comment-1656434 If copyright holders think someone has infringed their rights, they can sue them. That's what we have courts for. This is insane. If copyright holders think someone has infringed their rights, they can sue them.

That’s what we have courts for.

This is insane.

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