Robert Crumb comments on celebrities and artists

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  1. Aleknevicus says:

    Highlighting the text results in a colour scheme that’s much easier on the eyes.

  2. orangedesperado says:

    Dear Robert Crumb,

    While your work has been very groundbreaking on many levels, it is time that you get to know some women artists, musicians and writers. It is sad that the few women you talk about are either fellow artists you are dismissive of (ie Lynda Barry), while the woman that rated the most attention and commentary is a deceased pin-up model (Bettie Page).

    This may have as much to do with the person that you are in conversation with, but as a non-male reader it is disappointing.

    • Stephan says:

      In short, you want Robert Crumb to turn from a groundbreaking artist into a boring person.

      • orangedesperado says:

        Right, because any person, who is actually interested in a range of experiences/expression, whose mind was opened way up via art, music, counter-culture and psychedelic drugs from the 1960′s onwards, is going to become a boring person for actually considering women as… people ? People who do stuff like make art, music, comics, write, like all the other dudes he had a positive opinion about ?

        WTF, dude ? 

        • Stephan says:

          Boring = Basing your personal interestst and tastes under the premise of achieving a gender balance.

          You don’t seem to know Crumb very well if you think he doesn’t consider women as people.

          • orangedesperado says:

            You don’t seem to know Crumb very well if you have never pondered some of the very overt issues Crumb had with women in his comics, and in his personal life (see: Crumb documentary, see:comics by his wife, Aline Kominsky Crumb).

            Crumb’s neuroses and opinions about many things have always been very out there for the world to see, which have made his comics interesting AND problematic.

            Just because you personally do not see an issue does not mean it does not exist.

          • millie fink says:

            True, he does consider them as people. Trouble is, he mostly considers them people to fuck.

    • L_Mariachi says:

      It’s pretty clear that the interviewer threw names at him, this isn’t Crumb deciding who he wants to talk about. He doesn’t know Lynda Barry and doesn’t care for her drawing style, whaddya want him to go on about? (I don’t know why that made the cut; there were probably a dozen other names where his answer was “I don’t really know anything about that person” that got edited out.) He’s hardly “dismissive” of Trina Robbins; he actually comes off as quite respectful towards her as a nemesis of sorts. And he talks more extensively about Janis Joplin than Bettie Page.

    • chaopoiesis says:

      … as if Crumb would actually read something like Boing Boing, and then tell us what he thinks of it.

      Which I’d rather not know.

    • benher says:

      It’s always frustrating when you fall into the very group that is the object of dismissal by someone you respect.

      “…while the woman that rated the most attention and commentary is a deceased pin-up…”

      I like how you use the word “dismissive” in the same sentence as this. 

      Bettie Page lived her life with bravado and deserves any attention she  gets, port mortem from an underground comics pioneer or otherwise. 

      • orangedesperado says:

        Look, Bettie Page was a great model, whose legacy lived on through her photos. BUT – her story/history was super tragic, with the period when she modeled seeming the only exception(childhood sexual abuse, then later serious mental illness for many years during which she stabbed a couple of people and was institutionalized, then poverty, until finally a person who had been profiting from her images tracked her down to do the right thing when she in her 80′s). 

        Crumb was mostly talking about how great her body was, which is not the same thing as talking about another’s artistic or musical ability.

  3. Petzl says:

    His comments have, for me, the same effect of the film “Crumb”: a letdown.  He’s undoubtedly a brilliant artist, but outside of his field and his certain narrow interests, he’s a bit of a bloviator.  I mean, he’s not raving like Ted Nugent, but this is his take on the 20th century dictators:

    “Now, people have this knee-jerk reaction that Hitler was this inhuman monster, but he’s really only the result of the social forces of the time. As was Mao, and Stalin, as was Pol Pot.”

    • dnebdal says:

      Then again, it does make the very important point that Hitler was a real human, from a background and with a political path that doesn’t seem impossible today. It’s much too easy to dismiss him (and the other dictators) as some form of aliens in human shape, safely dismissed as fundamentally different from those we see around us here and today.

  4. I have a personal anecdote that confirms Crumb’s astute observation of Peter Max.  He frequented a restaurant in NYC where I waited tables, and in lieu of a tip, he would often sign a napkin with a self-important flourish. (He’d also do this to escape the bill itself, if the starry-eyed owned happened to be in.)  The satisfaction of throwing the napkins in the garbage provided more value than the hack’s autograph ever could.

  5. Navin_Johnson says:

    the folknics of the ’50s and early ’60s: the Almanac Singers; Joan Baez and Pete Seeger. It’s just totally uninteresting.

    Have to agree with Crumb 100%, good people, good politics, but sooooo boring.

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