Two videos of unfortunate events

I didn't know that a child died in the video. I watched it with the sound off. I have deleted this post. I'm sorry I posted it.

UPDATE: Multiple news sources report that everyone survived the accident. Here's an ABC World News segment about it. Beware: it shows the same video I removed.

• [oasisob1]

  Oh, HOLY FUCK! I wasn’t ready for that second one. And I was warned, ‘sneak attack’.

  • [SumAnon]

     It’s not the crash, it’s the terrified screams. Not cool.

• [Nathan Hornby]

  HOLY FUCKING CHRIST – I swear, this close, THIS CLOSE to having a heart attack on the second vid.

  NSFL tag required Mark!

  [Edit: Hang on… this doesn't seem right, Marks account hacked?]

• [allenmcbride]

  Shit. I thought it was going to be a bird or something. “Sneak attack” seems a little the wrong tone, maybe?

• [CliffordS]

  The second one is disturbing.  At the end you can hear someone calling for their mother in Korean.

  • [Koocheekoo]

    Per the You Tube comments a child died in that crash. I watched it not realizing how disturbing the screams would be at the end. Now knowing that someone died makes it more awful. Kind of ruined my Friday morning. Not all that wonderful… :( 

• [Kirk Erickson]

  This is low grade content for boingboing.  hope we don’t see more of this kind of trash.  there are plenty of other places to get this kind of “faces of death” tragic flicks.

  Try again

• [Matt Popke]

  So… BoingBoing has turned into a Faces of Death video now? Classy.

  • [GawainLavers]

    My first thumbs-down on a Boing Boing article. I could be crude and offer that at least there are no boobies, but I’m really thinking an account hack here.

    [edit: video down and apology, so that's some good]

    • [René Walter]

      I don’t. Mark has a knack for Videos like these from time to time…

    • [Bernie Lyons]

      I agree. This is lowbrow trash.  Especially with no commentary, message or insight. 

    • [Christopher]

      I never realized before there was a thumbs-down option. Then again I’ve never wanted such an option until now.

      Edit: Based on my previous experience reading BoingBoing I think I can reasonably expect I’ll never want to use the “thumbs down” ever again.

• [Christopher]

  Frankly I much prefer Lemony Snicket’s Series of Unfortunate Events.

• [mike saliba]

  Thanks. Now I’m sure to have serious fucking panic attacks. That was brutal. 

• [dahlia]

  Okay, hearing that child wail for her mother at the end of the second is not something I should have to experience without consent. You need to add a warning. That’s not right.

  • [Glen Able]

    Agreed.  Maybe “unfortunate events” is the sort of euphemism that passes for a warning in the more desensitised parts of the interweb, but I’ve come to trust this place to be better than that.

• [Bree Compton]

  I mean, I clicked on it, but especially the warning of “sneak attack” made me think it would be less… disturbing. :/

• [Nora Sawyer]

  I should have known better than to click on these, but I honestly thought BoingBoing content (from Mark! Who I trust!) would be interesting, funny, or good. Instead I get horrifying. Ugh.

• [EricSchrepel]

  Yeah I’m a long-time boingboing fan and reddit fan, and sure needed a reddit-style NSFW/NSFL tag on that second video, plus this really isn’t what boingboing is usually about.

• [Paul Coleman]

  I have to agree…if you think about both of those a little bit, they’re really just awful.  I keep telling myself that both were posted to YouTube because everyone came out of it ok. Unfortunately, knowing human nature, I can’t be sure of that.

  • [Koocheekoo]

    Per You Tube comments – take them for what they are worth – a 3 yr old child died in the car accident – sneak attack – video. 

    • [Paul Coleman]

      Yeah…I didn’t want to click through and accidentally re see it.  I don’t necessarily trust YouTube comments either, but yeah.   This is pretty shitty all around.  Glad he took them down.

• [triscuit]

  These videos posted without backstories, context, or outcomes… poor form, BB, poor form. 

• [Kevyn Jacobs]

  Unicorn chaser, please….

  • [GawainLavers]

    I don’t think I trust the unicorn chaser now.

  • [Koocheekoo]

    A better sneak attack – cute red pandas. Hope this helps a bit http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/baby-red-panda-sneak-attack/1jpjsnv2y?cpkey=c2208205-82f8-4655-9773-200434a0d8cc%257c%257c%257c%257c

    • [SomeGuyNamedMark]

       Shocking cuteness

    • [euansmith]

      Don’t get ‘em wet and don’t feed ‘em after midnight…

  • [Koocheekoo]

    Here is a feel good moment if needed. Russian sailors rescue dog from ice floe – This ends on a happy note.  http://videosift.com/video/Russian-Sailors-Rescue-Dog-Stranded-on-Ice-Floe

• [Ian McLoud]

  I found neither video to be disturbing or personally upsetting (I’m desensitized, yes). I found the first video to be very intriguing as I have thought about that scenario and wondered how long one can mange to hang on (particularly in slippery ski gear).

  That being said, I’d have to agree with the sentiment of the other commentators that these videos, particularly the second, are wildly out of place when compared to typical BB posts…

• [Allan Self]

  Ok then.  And the point of posting that was?

• [Hamish Grant]

  really really low shit from boing boing today.  apparently the 3-year-old child of the driver in the second video died in this accident.   

  • [Nora Sawyer]

    That’s terrible. Where did you find that out?

    • [madopal]

      It’s in the YouTube comments on the vid.

      • [Nonentity]

        The only comment I’ve spotted about that doesn’t seem to reference any report of it.  As horrible as this is, it’s good to remember to take uncited statements of fact in youtube comments with a truckload of salt.

        It could be true, but some people do love to make a video seem as bad as possible.  The classic example would be comments on an animal video that confidently state that the animal’s behaviour must be due to abuse…

        • [SomeGuyNamedMark]

          Youtube comments are usually windows into the darkest corners of people’s souls

      • [xian]

        Just because ImaLiverDonor says something in a Youtube comment doesn’t necessarily make it true. I Google Translated the description of the video and got “Fortunately, the driver, a bunch wounded were screaming ..”. Take it for what it’s worth, but I’m leaning towards no deaths here.

    • [René Walter]

      Its in the YT-Comments…

      • [oasisob1]

        I read it on the internet. It must be true. Here comes my boyfriend. He’s a French model…

        • [Hamish Grant]

          by the same token, no one seems to be able to find the original source of the video – so we may never actually know what really happened. 

• [Marios P.]

  so what exactly is the point of this? Has boingboing been hacked or something? If i wanted to watch sht like that I would be over 4chan or rotten ffs

• [TheNewsIsBroken]

  boo.

• [alaspoorwho]

  Source link is very NSFW. Immediate huge titty picture filling the screen. Thanks for the heads up, guys.

• [Nicole Miller]

  Why is this here? I know where to go for this content and its not Boingboing. This blog is a place I go to learn, this is troubling.

• [wigglybridge]

  what the HELL were you thinking to post this? have you lost your marbles?

  this is the first time i’ve logged on to make a comment in over a year, i’m so angry at how sick this is.

• [Stephanie]

  I avoid stuff like this and sites that post this sort of thing. My trust has been abused here today. Not OK. 

• [Hegelian]

  I came to the comments to see what the videos were without having to risk watching them if they contain horrific content. I’ve got to say, posting these vids without explanation or warning is very uncool. And very, I thought, unBoingBoing-like, Lemony Snicket meets Faces of Death. :p

• [Funky16Corners]

  OK, why?

• [dave3000]

  Not cool – expect a lot better from you guys!

• [Matt Taylor]

  I’m also going to chime in against this type of content. Not cool!

• [Clemmer]

  It’s the many faces of Frauenfelder in action…

• [Nadreck]

  Hello?  Blog of Wonderful Things?  Is this some new definition of “wonderful” that we were all previously unaware of?

• [Aaron White]

  I’m a fairly new reader who’s been enriched by BoingBoing so far, but the crash video really sucks.  There’s no reliable context for how the accident came out.  I understand why some people would want to see this kind of thing… I’m a horror movie fan, and I dig the vicarious adrenaline rush as much as anybody, but I want to know that no one got hurt to craft my adrenaline trigger.  

• [Sam Clements]

  What the f**k, BB?

• [gauch0]

  Well.. those made me sad. I need to go hug my children now.

• [Robert Drop]

  I was about to click on the videos when my “spider sense” started tingling and I thought I should check out the comments first before I did so.  Looks like I saved myself from having my day ruined.

• [signsofrain]

  Yeah this wasn’t a great post. This is Tosh.0 level schadenfreude type shit. Not classy.

  Edit: Why would anyone watch this shit if not to enjoy the suffering depicted?

  • [Beryllium9]

    I don’t even think it counts as schadenfreude.

    • [Nora Sawyer]

       Frauenfreude?

      • [Ipo]

         No, that’s a good thing. 

• [chrisgell]

  Not good content. Both movies are too extreme. This link to “What the Christ!” is VERY VERY NSFW, essentially lots of fairly heavy duty porn…
  As others have said I do hope you have been hacked.

• [Jérôme Loisel]

  Not cool at all. I feel betrayed. This sounds like a tragedy, and should be treated with respect, not as entertainment. I have been coming here for years, and I am sad and disappointed. Please delete and apologize. This should not be here.

• [fizgigs]

  Wow, I’ve never posted here before but want to add my voice.  WTF is this?  At least warn people when you are going to post something like that – or I need some follow up – was everyone ok or did I just accidentally watch someone die? 

• [ikelleigh]

  I would expect to see this crap on reddit, theync or ogrishforum, but not here.

• [Allen]

  The second video did to my psyche what the SUV did to that windshield.
  Wasn’t expecting it at all.

• [Raoul Miller]

  I’m also going to add “what the fuck?”  I really expect better from the site. I hope this was a hack rather than a complete lack of judgment.

• [Fogbert]

  Agree with all that say that this stuff should not be on BB. Not even close.

  Good on you for taking it down.

• [yahoo-DQHLNPAHCGDYTEK4KAM46T7J3U]

  I think Mark wasn’t joking when he said he’d prefer gore over sex.

• [Sam Ley]

  Don’t worry, guys, at least there was no nudity!

• [KateandJosh Craig]

  Show it to your kids Mark! They’ll love it!

  • [yahoo-DQHLNPAHCGDYTEK4KAM46T7J3U]

    Yup, no need to worry about them peeking at an errant breast (unless you happen to see one detached, sitting on the roadway) 

  • [DouglasSpaulding]

    Hey, violence, death and destruction is A O.K., but don’t let the kiddies see any sexuality.  Scarred for life, they will be.

    How we like to live vicariously.

• [Ronald Simmons]

  Agree with everyone asking “Why?” Also, is anybody else getting a Cadillac ad above the comments? Double disturbing.

  • [Ronald Simmons]

    Here are two screen caps. First how the page initially loaded; second after a refresh.

• [Steve Alford]

  Long, long time reader here. This is plain horrible content with no context (or warning). I hope this is a case of a hacked account, otherwise I feel betrayed. Somebody from BB please explain.

• [oasisob1]

  I think the first video was disarming; the fall doesn’t appear that bad, the guy was probably okay. It almost heightens the shock of the second one, which is already pretty un-Boingy. Perhaps Mark is trying some sort of experiment, somehow related to yesterday’s GoT post?

  • [Sam Ley]

    The kid who fell was airlifted off the site, kept in the hospital for a few days, but didn’t require surgery and is now released. Still pretty traumatic.

  • [GawainLavers]

    Frankly, the ragdoll bounce at the end looked pretty bad to me.

• [bingobangoboy]

  I don’t mean to be prudish, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who, knowing this is BoingBoing and not 4chan, expected something a little more lighthearted than the screams of horror here.  Did not improve my day, and I say that as a heartless jerk.

• [Garry Simeonovic]

  WTF!  Not cool :(

• [quesarah]

  I add my voice to the chorus of WTF is this!?
  It is not a wonderful thing.

• [timquinn]

  Me thinks Mark is angry over the ungenerous reception of his parenting discussion yesterday. The comments have become concern troll territory. 
  See, he has given you another reason to believe yourself superior, and you were just sitting there doing nothing. Quite the gentleman.

• [spacedoc]

  It would be surprising if this were a hack- Mark has posted several more things this morning that are more along the lines of what he normally posts (unless they’ve been prequeued to post).  

  So if this were actually posted on purpose… pretty pathetic.  

• [Nylund]

  So what’s going on here?

  a) Mark is trolling his own website due to the parental discussion yesterday.

  b) Mark’s account has been compromised.

• [gws]

  Yeah. A flippant headline, two videos of life-threatening events (were these people killed or what? Or is not knowing part of the thrill?) and no context whatsoever. Classy, guys.

• [stegodon]

  lulz

• [Andrew Gingerich]

  dang, this just ruined my day.

• [Jason Grebski]

  Honestly, why did you post that?  So unnecessary and horrible.
  If something like this happened to you or your family I don’t think you would be sharing it.  The fact that you called it “Sneak Attack” implies you think it is a humorous event.
  I’d Love to hear Your thoughts on this.  
  Have a great day. Go Sneak Attack yourself or something along those lines.

• [bo1n6bo1n6]

  Fuck that second video… Please remove it so no one else has to wake up to that.. Wonderful my ass.

• [goldenmansacks]

  Well, win some, lose some. Eh, guys?

• [Rob Beschizza]

  I have a funny feeling that a couple of these comments are going to disappear when the moderators wake up!

  • [Jason Grebski]

    Yeah, maybe Mark should “wake up” and not post shit like that.

  • [oasisob1]

    I’m just waiting for Mark to drop the other shoe. There’s got to be some point to this, that we don’t yet ken (er, grok?).

    In the meantime, let’s try to get through this video:
    http://boingboing.net/2013/02/22/lessigs-harvard-law-lecture.html

  • [jsd]

    EDIT: Mark pulled the video. Good on him.

  • [René Walter]

    Really? I mean… I’m an advocat for strong moderation of a site, but I can not spot a comment that should be removed. People are upset, rightly so. Noone wants to tell BB what to post and what not, but shit needs to be pointed out. And these videos are shit.

  • [SomeGuyNamedMark]

     Criticism only goes one way on BB

• [Mostafa Alattar]

  So much for “wonderful things”, right fellow BB readers?

• [Dave Noisy]

  Agreed – very not-cool. There should be a ‘WARNING: Someone wailing over injury or death’ tag on this. No one needs to see this.

• [Glen Newbury]

  Does Boing Boing have to resort to this kind of stuff? There are plenty of other sites that have this kind of crap. I’ve followed BB daily for four years now and this is the first time I’ve wondered WTF, why did they post that. Please don’t post more stuff like that.

• [Talia]

  There’s ways of saying you’re unhappy with a post that don’t involve insulting or making judgements about people.

  Just sayin’, folks. 

  • [Jeff Scherr]

    Can I just say, “Boo” “Hiss” and “not cool, Zeus.”

• [Andrew Gingerich]

  Just sittin’ here, twiddling my thumbs, waiting for a “Sorry, won’t happen again,” or something like that.

• [Tim Butler]

  [Retracting this comment because of Mr. Frauenfelder's classiness in removing the video.]

• [scissorfighter]

  Yup, first thumbs down for a BB post from me.  Two thumbs down.  Three if I had them.

  • [Christopher]

    If you had three thumbs I wish you’d share a picture. That’s something I think I wouldn’t mind seeing.

• [P O]

  Most unwonderful. I am not impressed. There are other places for this low brow excuse for content.

• [Glaurung-Quena]

  So, “wonderful things” now includes snuff films.  It’s good to see that Boing Boing is striving to improve its high standards. 

  Mr Frauenfelder, welcome to my killfile.  I will no longer click through on anything you post here, and if I can figure out a way to greasemonkey or adblock your posts specifically on Boing Boing, i will do so.

• [Flemming Frandsen]

  The hell?

  First Mark wants to censor nudity and keep violence in GOTS, now he’s posting snuff videos.

  Could these be signs of a psychotic break?

• [kongjie]

  Have to agree with most of the comments. “Sneak attack” wasn’t NSFW. It was NSFEB. Not Suitable For Empathic Beings. Wish I had looked at the comments before clicking play.

• [wardepartment]

  Thank you for taking this post down.

  • [Ronald Simmons]

    Still not sure what the point was even if you watched them muted, but at least the readers were heard.

    • [Drew Wellman]

      To be fair, I watched it muted and it wasn’t until I read the comments that I realized the gravity of the video. It reminded me of another dashcam video on youtube involving a brick through a windshield featuring the most haunting screams of loss you’ll ever hear in your life. 

      • [GawainLavers]

        I don’t know, when I saw the crash I couldn’t fathom that there wouldn’t be a fatality, and that was before the screaming started.  And without any sound, the limp, ragdoll bounce of the guy falling from the ski-lift made it clear to me that he was seriously injured.  In both cases I would have wanted some kind of confirmation that people were not injured before I posted it.

        This was very different the series of dash-cam clips from Russia where each shot seems very clear that people were shaken up, but not seriously injured (unless they weren’t wearing seatbelts).

        • [Margaret Maloney]

          I was specifically expecting something like the Russian dashcam videos; near misses which amaze you with a perspective you hope you’ll never experience personally, but which, nonetheless, seem to not actually have hurt anyone.

          I don’t think I’m going to forget those screams.

      • [Nora Sawyer]

         I watched it muted, then watched it again with the sound off looking for some sort of assurance that people were actually okay (because surely, I thought, no one would post that if it was as bad as it looked). That was a mistake.

• [Steve Alford]

  Thanks Mark. Good man.

• [Mark Sniadecki]

  I will NOT be abandoning BoingBoing because of an honest mistake on the part of the editor. The internet has some dark and terrible places, this site isn’t one of them. I believe that it wasn’t intentional and won’t happen again.

  • [Kelly M]

    Agreed, we all make mistakes and I’m hopefully and reasonably sure Mark will vet such things a bit better in the future!

  • [SomeGuyNamedMark]

    Stop being reasonable.  This is the internet, you are supposed to react to everything with hysterical indignation.

    • [Christopher]

      How dare you say something like that! Now you’ve got me so infuriated I can barely stop running around in circles and screaming long enough to express my indignation!

• [Henry]

  very un-boingboing-like videos. just ruined my day watching the second one. and not sure what difference it made that the audio was off—still a horrific thing to watch.

• [spocko]

  Good for you for taking it down. One of the good things about Boing Boing is that, it’s not in it just for the click and the shock value or controversy.

  This is the response of a responsible publisher.

• [Grahamers2002]

  The part where you want to see what everyone was talking about even though they all say it was disgusting and shouldn’t be seen…

• [Andy Reilly]

  So if a child hadn’t died, or there was no screaming in the second one, it would have been OK to post? Even with the sound off, what made him think these were “wonderful things”? WTF?

• [Greenie Tinaam]

  Wow! I got late for this (this time I’m glad). I feel for Mark, reading the good man for years I can only begin to imagine the guilt and shame for having posted this… Lesson learned I guess. You have a huge responsibility as an editor, so many people trusting your choices…. keep up the good work, I’ll keep reading and recommending!

• [Narmitaj]

  From what I have seen elsewhere, this clip was broadcast on South Korean TV and no-one was killed. On the other hand, a comment in the youTube comments said a child had been killed. So who knows. Either way, it was pretty brutal.

• [P O]

  What next vids of kids blowing up frogs and pulling the wings off of insects? Even if a child wasn’t killed the anguished crying and blacked out screen should have been enough. If I want to see awful things there are places for that..unfortunately. Thank you for pulling it. Death or no death…not cool for BB.

• [Mister44]

  Don’t be to hard on yourself, Mark. The line between a “whew that was close” and snuff film isn’t always clear, especially with the sound off.

• [allenmcbride]

   No.

• [jsd]

  Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

  EDIT: BoingBoing Youtube preview has ruined the art of the rickroll.

• [Ian Anthony]

  Really, dude?

• [Darren MacLennan]

   It was a nice try anyways.

• [Ian Anthony]

  Yeah, how weak we are for not wanting to see people die.

  Also, inb4 your comment gets deleted.

• [spocko]

  Bite me.

• [mkanoap]

   How about a simple description so your curiosity can be assuaged, and the memory hole be be plugged without actually repeating the crime.

  First video, someone hangs from a ski lift chair trying to get back in the chair.  Eventually they fall a long way to the ground where they bounce and slide down the snow covered hill out of sight.

  Second video, dashboard cam catches the moment when a car abruptly vaults in the air through bushes in the center of a divided highway and lands on the car.  The cracked windshield is totally obscured by the flying car as a small child cries in the dark.

• [orangedesperado]

  Please ban this asshole.