Comments on: Corporate executives indicted for willfully endangering public health http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 02:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Nadreck http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1668109 Nadreck Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1668109 His profile picture was a dead give away though. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Mr_peanut.png His profile picture was a dead give away though.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Mr_peanut.png

]]> By: GawainLavers http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1668090 GawainLavers Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1668090 And I thought the peanut executives were ruthless. And I thought the peanut executives were ruthless.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1668044 Antinous / Moderator Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1668044 (Maggie snickers.) (Maggie snickers.)

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667959 Antinous / Moderator Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667959 When we <a href="http://boingboing.net/2009/02/11/samonella-peanut-ceo.html" rel="nofollow">covered this in 2009</a>, Big Peanut's lawyer showed up to astroturf. When we covered this in 2009, Big Peanut’s lawyer showed up to astroturf.

]]> By: RedMonkey http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667900 RedMonkey Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667900 I think if I'd labelled it as sarcasm it would have had less impact, I don't mind being misunderstood by some.  But the few Libertarians I meet on a day-to-day basis, tend to mollify their opinion when confronted with their own logic in situations where it clearly should not apply.  As antifud quite rightly points out, there is no real compensation for death; obviously the law tries to apply a remedy, but one cannot be made whole again when they have died through someone else's negligence. I think if I’d labelled it as sarcasm it would have had less impact, I don’t mind being misunderstood by some.  But the few Libertarians I meet on a day-to-day basis, tend to mollify their opinion when confronted with their own logic in situations where it clearly should not apply.  As antifud quite rightly points out, there is no real compensation for death; obviously the law tries to apply a remedy, but one cannot be made whole again when they have died through someone else’s negligence.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667794 oasisob1 Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667794 Something something, time to go after the banks... Something something, time to go after the banks…

]]> By: jetfx http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667789 jetfx Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667789  The sarcasm label would have been helpful, because your just posted the usual libertarian argument nearly verbatim. I honestly couldn't tell if you were serious in this case.  The sarcasm label would have been helpful, because your just posted the usual libertarian argument nearly verbatim. I honestly couldn’t tell if you were serious in this case.

]]> By: IronEdithKidd http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667784 IronEdithKidd Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667784 No, you needed the tag.  See antifud's comment below... No, you needed the tag.  See antifud’s comment below…

]]> By: antifud http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667766 antifud Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667766 except that it proves the opposite, because people have been killed from these products. There is no damage or liabilities and penalties that "fix" a situation which is already broken. Show me a punishment that makes up for innocent deaths, and I'll show you that there is no just or equivalent punishment. That's proof of Libertarianism causing the problem, and yet trying to gain credit for the fix. except that it proves the opposite, because people have been killed from these products. There is no damage or liabilities and penalties that “fix” a situation which is already broken. Show me a punishment that makes up for innocent deaths, and I’ll show you that there is no just or equivalent punishment. That’s proof of Libertarianism causing the problem, and yet trying to gain credit for the fix.

]]> By: RedMonkey http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667755 RedMonkey Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667755 Thank you, I'd never heard that term before, I had wondered if I needed to add a sarcasm label.  Given the absence of significant reaction, I'm assuming most understood it was sarcasm. Thank you, I’d never heard that term before, I had wondered if I needed to add a sarcasm label.  Given the absence of significant reaction, I’m assuming most understood it was sarcasm.

]]> By: Elliott Frodahl http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667734 Elliott Frodahl Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667734 Talk about Poe's law... Talk about Poe’s law…

]]> By: GawainLavers http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667723 GawainLavers Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667723 <blockquote>...there's mounds of evidence...</blockquote> I see what you did there.

…there’s mounds of evidence…

I see what you did there.

]]> By: jetfx http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667689 jetfx Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667689  Fat lot of good it does for those harmed by the irresponsible behavior, because the damage is done. Food borne illness can be deadly, and simply punishing after the fact means your willing to increase the body count for some sort of nebulous idea of capitalist "freedom". And removing any sort of product testing creates a massive disincentive for those "good actors" to do it independently, because they will be out-competed by those who cut that cost. And our food supply will be much less safe as a result.  Fat lot of good it does for those harmed by the irresponsible behavior, because the damage is done. Food borne illness can be deadly, and simply punishing after the fact means your willing to increase the body count for some sort of nebulous idea of capitalist “freedom”.

And removing any sort of product testing creates a massive disincentive for those “good actors” to do it independently, because they will be out-competed by those who cut that cost. And our food supply will be much less safe as a result.

]]> By: RedMonkey http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667565 RedMonkey Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667565 Just further evidence that Libertarianism works. Product testing is totally unnecessary bureaucracy, and corporations should be able to ship out whatever without testing, as they face liabilities and penalties under the law for their behavior and will always be caught and punished appropriately for their wrong doing.  And even if you allow a bureaucracy to monitor products, the wrong-doers will circumvent them - so this just unfairly punishes the good actors. Just further evidence that Libertarianism works.

Product testing is totally unnecessary bureaucracy, and corporations should be able to ship out whatever without testing, as they face liabilities and penalties under the law for their behavior and will always be caught and punished appropriately for their wrong doing. 

And even if you allow a bureaucracy to monitor products, the wrong-doers will circumvent them – so this just unfairly punishes the good actors.

]]> By: Nadreck http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667479 Nadreck Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667479 Excellent timeline of these psychopaths' behaviour is <a href="http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/02/peanut-corporation-of-america-from-inception-to-indictment-a-timeline/#.US-Rf92kRDg" rel="nofollow"> here </a>. Excellent timeline of these psychopaths’ behaviour is here .

]]> By: peregrinus http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/corporate-executives-indicted.html#comment-1667440 peregrinus Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215922#comment-1667440 <blockquote>IT IS MONEY… IT IS MONEY… IT IS MONEY… IT IS GODDAMN MONEY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE BECAUSE OF HOW LONG I HAVE ALLOWED you, your crew and everyone down there to let THIS GO ON… STOP THE MONEY FROM EVER GETTING OUT OF THE PRODUCTION FLOW!!!!!!!!!!</blockquote> When the execs point their fingers at the workforce, I bet this little quote gets repeated a little.

IT IS MONEY… IT IS MONEY… IT IS MONEY… IT IS GODDAMN MONEY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE BECAUSE OF HOW LONG I HAVE ALLOWED you, your crew and everyone down there to let THIS GO ON… STOP THE MONEY FROM EVER GETTING OUT OF THE PRODUCTION FLOW!!!!!!!!!!

When the execs point their fingers at the workforce, I bet this little quote gets repeated a little.

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