Comments on: Manning pleads guilty to lesser charges, with 20 years max sentence, but not to aiding enemy http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 11:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Jeremiah Blatz http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1668292 Jeremiah Blatz Fri, 01 Mar 2013 04:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1668292 Wow. I was just struck how this is EXACTLY like the kangaroo courts and ham-fisted forced confessions that we in the US so roundly condemned. They tortured him* until they got a confession, end of story. * Extended solitary confinement is torture: http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1898 Wow. I was just struck how this is EXACTLY like the kangaroo courts and ham-fisted forced confessions that we in the US so roundly condemned. They tortured him* until they got a confession, end of story.

* Extended solitary confinement is torture: http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1898

]]> By: aikimoe http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667882 aikimoe Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667882 It's possible, jandrese, but, so far, there's zero evidence for it.  And if there were, it would simply further illustrate how broken the system for classifying documents is. It’s possible, jandrese, but, so far, there’s zero evidence for it.  And if there were, it would simply further illustrate how broken the system for classifying documents is.

]]> By: jandrese http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667833 jandrese Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667833 That depends.  They are the authority on those leaks, so it's possible that they internally declassified the material before releasing it.  That depends.  They are the authority on those leaks, so it’s possible that they internally declassified the material before releasing it. 

]]> By: soylent_plaid http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667771 soylent_plaid Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667771 Hmmm, so three straight years of torture, abuse and inhuman treatment get you a plea bargain.  See?  Totally worth it guys!  Stop being such bleeding hearts about "human rights" all the time! Hmmm, so three straight years of torture, abuse and inhuman treatment get you a plea bargain.  See?  Totally worth it guys!  Stop being such bleeding hearts about “human rights” all the time!

]]> By: aikimoe http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667705 aikimoe Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667705 Not legally, there isn't. When the White House leaks stuff to the press to make themselves look better, they are, by definition, "violating the terms of their security clearance." Not legally, there isn’t. When the White House leaks stuff to the press to make themselves look better, they are, by definition, “violating the terms of their security clearance.”

]]> By: Daemonworks http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667696 Daemonworks Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667696 The US government does more every day to aid it's enemies than Manning could ever have done. The US government does more every day to aid it’s enemies than Manning could ever have done.

]]> By: Daemonworks http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667698 Daemonworks Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667698  True. The latter is the one that should be encouraged.  True. The latter is the one that should be encouraged.

]]> By: nowimnothing http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667575 nowimnothing Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667575 So that's what Scooter Libby was doing huh? So that’s what Scooter Libby was doing huh?

]]> By: jandrese http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667563 jandrese Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667563 There's a big difference between the White House "leaking" stuff to the press to make themselves look better, and a random guy with a clearance exfiltrating enormous amounts of classified data.  There’s a big difference between the White House “leaking” stuff to the press to make themselves look better, and a random guy with a clearance exfiltrating enormous amounts of classified data. 

]]> By: chellberty http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667510 chellberty Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667510 No they don't IE the Bush admin leaked like a sieve. No they don’t IE the Bush admin leaked like a sieve.

]]> By: jandrese http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667496 jandrese Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667496 Good cause or not, violating the terms of your security clearance is something the government cares about. Good cause or not, violating the terms of your security clearance is something the government cares about.

]]> By: Andrew Singleton http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667405 Andrew Singleton Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667405 That he had to plead anything at all is a damned shame. That he had to plead anything at all is a damned shame.

]]> By: strugglngwriter http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667392 strugglngwriter Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667392 This doesn't mean that the Army won't pursue those other charges, though, right? I doubt they accepted any type of plea. This doesn’t mean that the Army won’t pursue those other charges, though, right? I doubt they accepted any type of plea.

]]> By: showme http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667383 showme Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667383 This is actually not as bad as I had expected. It's still a travesty, of course, but look who you're dealing with. This is actually not as bad as I had expected. It’s still a travesty, of course, but look who you’re dealing with.

]]> By: Dr. Chronobiologist http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667378 Dr. Chronobiologist Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667378 Sigh. Sigh.

]]> By: Dr. Chronobiologist http://boingboing.net/2013/02/28/manning-pleads-guilty.html#comment-1667379 Dr. Chronobiologist Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=215905#comment-1667379  [vomits]  [vomits]

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