Copyright trolls facing legal sanctions for in-court fraud file defamation suits against identity theft victim and online critics

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45 Responses to “Copyright trolls facing legal sanctions for in-court fraud file defamation suits against identity theft victim and online critics”

  1. Popehat says:

    Fortunately there are a number of entities that offer help to bloggers and anonymous commenters threatened with bogus lawsuits — Public Citizen, the EFF, Digital Media Law Project.  There are also attorneys out there who will take cases pro bono.  These complaints call for a vigorous and knowledgeable defense.

    I’m trying to connect defendants with entities and lawyers.

  2. They can’t implement a law punishing copyright and patent trolls soon enough. They really need to curb this legal system bullying. It’s been out of control for way too long.

  3. Steve Taylor says:

    > From absurd claims like the existence of an adolescent male in a household is proof that illegal porn downloading must be taking place

    well…

    • dmatos says:

       Why would they download illegal porn?  There’s plenty of free porn on the intertubes.

      • Jerril says:

        Exactly. Amateur porn, pin up art, illustrations of just about any kind of porn you can imagine, free “erotic” samples from subscription websites… It’s kind of hard NOT to stumble across all kinds of images to masturbate to that’s being freely distributed by the IP holders for the express purposes of masturbating to. Never mind the tons of catalogue and ethnographic pictures that were “good enough” in pre-internet years, but are now available in vast quantities over the internet.

        Go fumble around on Flikr or Deviant Art!

    • invictus says:

      google “tgp.”

      Marvel.

  4. Kwolfbrooks says:

    Check out their website…it feels slimy: http://wefightpiracy.com

    • Kwolfbrooks says:

      Well I’ll be darned! Pirate Bay has stepped in and hijacked this link. Woot!

      • Shawn Suther says:

        this is the best thing I’ve seen all week.

        I am having a hard time believing that the PB actually did this themselves though. regardless, awesome.

      • Kwolfbrooks says:

        Well, that was fun while it lasted. Apparently, now Preda Law has gone .org.

  5. Miramon says:

    Unfortunately the courts are historically extremely resistant to sanctions against even the worst of lawyerly behaviors. This may be a good thing when sanctions might otherwise be used as a weapon in politically charged cases or cases where the prosecution or judiciary is corrupt, but even so it’s hard to understand how these and similar trolling lawyers have avoided first paying heavy fines and second being disbarred.

  6. SJD says:

    Thank you, Cory, for your ongoing support to our humble efforts. 

    Overall, the Internet was amazing today. Thanks everyone.

  7. bzishi says:

    “In my opinion, Prenda is a shitshow from stem to stern.”

    “My goodness, it will be delightful to roast marshmallows over Prenda’s funeral pyre when that glorious day comes.”

    Don’t hold back, Cory. Tell us how you really feel about them!

    • The Rizz says:

      Let’s see… a little editing….

      “In my opinion, Prenda is a [...] delightful [...] glorious day” –Cory Doctorow

      There we go, cleared it up for you and ready for the movie poster!

    • DevinC says:

      I thought it was a most unfortunate mashup of metaphors, yes.

  8. Isn’t California a SLAPP state?   Extra penalties for going after people who use the courts to stifle public commentary.

  9. Edwin Austin says:

    I stepped in some Prenda this morning and I thought it would never wash off.

  10. chaopoiesis says:

    There’s a play in there somewhere – theater of the absurd.

  11. professor says:

    Back in the olden-days, law was a respected and fairly honorable profession. Unfortunately law-schools have been turning out so many graduates there’s no longer sufficient “proper” business to go round so the excess lawyers have gone feral… time for a culling?!

    • Hmm, smells like a ‘back in my day’ statement to me.  Was it really any better in the past? I figure lawyers must have got their reputation from somewhere, and it isn’t from the past decade.

      • Fogbert says:

        It *was* better actually.

        Now the feral lawyers advertise on TV.

        My personal favorite: the class-action lawsuit. You (the plaintiff) get a coupon for a free sandwich and I (the lawyer) get rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

    • Fogbert says:

      …so the excess lawyers have gone feral…

      This made my morning. Absolutely no better way to describe it.

      There are now lawyers that don’t lawyer at all–they hunt down plaintiffs for other lawyers.

    • Steve Miller says:

      The culling should be done on peak breeding season. Oh, and no limit on what you can bag!

  12. peregrinus says:

    Here in England, Northern Ireland (& Wales, don’t forget, but not Scotland necessarily) we have a sanction against bringing “frivolous and vexatious” lawsuits.  Don’t you guys have similar in the USA?

    Basically, the judge can turn around, inclining of course to the protection of their professional reputation, and tell a plaintiff the suit is f&v so please leave my court and go under to the bridge whence you came. 

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      It’s very difficult to get someone declared a vexatious litigant. Here’s a famous one in SF.

      In the past two decades, McColm has sued the federal government, the Bank of America, Kaiser, at least three department stores, a host of city workers, numerous private businesses, tenants, and at least two newspapers that printed articles about her. And when I called her yesterday to talk to her about the foreclosure sale and other matters, she told me she will sue me as well.
      After she was denied tenure at San Francisco State University, she filed suit contending sex discrimination. When she failed the state bar the second time, she sued the state bar…
      …She has sued contractors. She has sued churches. She has sued people for unseen injuries she claimed to have incurred in at least nine car accidents. And she has sued her neighbors so many times that they could form their own support group, if they weren’t so busy scrambling to retain legal counsel.

      http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Harridan-s-Spiteful-Grip-Weakening-Woman-who-2756428.php

    • Kevin Hill says:

      Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is designed to limit frivolous suits and motions by requiring that (1) the case or motion is not presented for an improper purpose; and (2) reasonable inquiry was made into the factual and legal contentions made..  The second requirement is particularly helpful in limiting frivolous suits because it requires the attorney to make an independent investigation of the facts underlying the case and his or her signature attests that a reasonable attorney would file such a document and that it is supported by existing law or a reasonable extension of existing law.  The upcoming hearing before  in Judge Wright’s courtroom is just such a hearing and Prenda’s attorneys  could face serious sanctions including jail time.

    • Jerril says:

      we have a sanction against bringing “frivolous and vexatious” lawsuits.  Don’t you guys have similar in the USA?

      Basically, no. Nothing quite like what you have, or what we have in Canada. I especially like the law here in Canada where, if your lawsuit gets crushed by the Judge, you have to pay the defendant’s legal fees.

  13. Penda eats babies. You can quote me on that.

  14. elix says:

    I can’t substantiate this rumour, but I heard someone say that prior to taking up shaking down people for money with the threat of being talked about in the newspaper in conjunction with raunchy gay porn, Prenda’s legal counsel exclusively defended child molesters and wife-beaters. You never know.

  15. prophylaxis says:

    In many European countries, Prenda’s behaviour would land them several years in jail just for the identity theft alone, and ordered to pay back the identity theft victim’s losses, even if the victim himself didn’t sue them over it.

    I’m actually a bit surprised that identity theft in the US doesn’t carry a mandatory jail sentence when the evidence is right there.

  16. angusm says:

    “Corporations are people too, my friend. And like people, some of them turn out to be complete, 100%, irredeemable assholes.”

  17. That_Anonymous_Coward says:

    Ohai Cory!
    Thanks for picking this up.  Trolls fear the light, and once again a bright light is being shined on their activities.

  18. Shawn Suther says:

    I just have to say; IMHO the concept of “BitTorrent users being in conspiracy with one another despite never having met, communicated, and not being aware of one another” actually makes a bit of sense to me, and I think could be argued in court successfully.
    There is an unspoken comradery ‘tween pirates, wherein they are aware of each other, as nameless numbers in a swarm, all with the same intention of providing for, and supporting each others desire for allegedly illicit materials. On private trackers, much more so.

  19. That_Anonymous_Coward says:

    If anyone wonders about the sanctions…

    http://dietrolldie.com/2013/03/06/guess-who-is-comming-to-dinner-on-11-march-2013-judge-wright-wants-a-troll-feast-212-cv-08333/

    Judge Wright has ordered the following personnel to be present at the 11 Mar 13, hearing.
    John Steele, of Steele Hansmeier PLLC and/or Livewire Holdings
    Paul Hansmeier, of Steele Hansmeier PLLC and/or Livewire Holdings LLC
    Paul Duffy, of Prenda Law, Inc.
    Angela Van Den Hemel, of Prenda Law, Inc.
    Mark Lutz, CEO of AF Holdings LLC and Ingenuity 13 LLC
    Alan Cooper, of AF Holdings LLC
    Peter Hansemeier of 6881 Forensics, LLC
    Alan Cooper, of 2170 Highway 47 North, Isle, MN 56342.

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