Comments on: Copyright trolls facing legal sanctions for in-court fraud file defamation suits against identity theft victim and online critics

By: That_Anonymous_Coward

That_Anonymous_Coward — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:50:00 +0000

If anyone wonders about the sanctions…

http://dietrolldie.com/2013/03/06/guess-who-is-comming-to-dinner-on-11-march-2013-judge-wright-wants-a-troll-feast-212-cv-08333/

Judge Wright has ordered the following personnel to be present at the 11 Mar 13, hearing.
John Steele, of Steele Hansmeier PLLC and/or Livewire Holdings
Paul Hansmeier, of Steele Hansmeier PLLC and/or Livewire Holdings LLC
Paul Duffy, of Prenda Law, Inc.
Angela Van Den Hemel, of Prenda Law, Inc.
Mark Lutz, CEO of AF Holdings LLC and Ingenuity 13 LLC
Alan Cooper, of AF Holdings LLC
Peter Hansemeier of 6881 Forensics, LLC
Alan Cooper, of 2170 Highway 47 North, Isle, MN 56342.

By: DevinC

DevinC — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:00:00 +0000

I thought it was a most unfortunate mashup of metaphors, yes.

By: Kwolfbrooks

Kwolfbrooks — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:38:00 +0000

Well, that was fun while it lasted. Apparently, now Preda Law has gone .org.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:10:00 +0000

Could be. She lost her house in SF.

By: Shawn Suther

Shawn Suther — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:41:00 +0000

I just have to say; IMHO the concept of “BitTorrent users being in conspiracy with one another despite never having met, communicated, and not being aware of one another” actually makes a bit of sense to me, and I think could be argued in court successfully.
There is an unspoken comradery ‘tween pirates, wherein they are aware of each other, as nameless numbers in a swarm, all with the same intention of providing for, and supporting each others desire for allegedly illicit materials. On private trackers, much more so.

By: Jeff Berg

Jeff Berg — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:11:00 +0000

Whoa, think this is her?

Lewiston resident Patricia A. McColm, convicted in December by a Trinity County jury of filing false documents with the Trinity court, has been sentenced to three years and four months in prison.

http://www.trinityjournal.com/news/local/article_05a12660-5f85-11e2-a846-001a4bcf6878.html

By: invictus

invictus — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:54:00 +0000

google “tgp.”

Marvel.

By: That_Anonymous_Coward

That_Anonymous_Coward — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:09:00 +0000

The community appreciates your, and the others, assistance in these matters.

By: That_Anonymous_Coward

That_Anonymous_Coward — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:09:00 +0000

/shake-n-bake kid
AND I HALPED!

By: That_Anonymous_Coward

That_Anonymous_Coward — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:53:00 +0000

Ohai Cory!
Thanks for picking this up. Trolls fear the light, and once again a bright light is being shined on their activities.

By: Shawn Suther

Shawn Suther — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:38:00 +0000

this is the best thing I’ve seen all week.

I am having a hard time believing that the PB actually did this themselves though. regardless, awesome.

By: Steve Miller

Steve Miller — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:09:00 +0000

The culling should be done on peak breeding season. Oh, and no limit on what you can bag!

By: angusm

angusm — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:39:00 +0000

“Corporations are people too, my friend. And like people, some of them turn out to be complete, 100%, irredeemable assholes.”

By: Jerril

Jerril — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:44:00 +0000

we have a sanction against bringing “frivolous and vexatious” lawsuits. Don’t you guys have similar in the USA?

Basically, no. Nothing quite like what you have, or what we have in Canada. I especially like the law here in Canada where, if your lawsuit gets crushed by the Judge, you have to pay the defendant’s legal fees.

By: Jerril

Jerril — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:41:00 +0000

Exactly. Amateur porn, pin up art, illustrations of just about any kind of porn you can imagine, free “erotic” samples from subscription websites… It’s kind of hard NOT to stumble across all kinds of images to masturbate to that’s being freely distributed by the IP holders for the express purposes of masturbating to. Never mind the tons of catalogue and ethnographic pictures that were “good enough” in pre-internet years, but are now available in vast quantities over the internet.

Go fumble around on Flikr or Deviant Art!

By: Fogbert

Fogbert — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:40:00 +0000

We regret to inform you that we are only able to share that information with members of the class.

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:22:00 +0000

Tell me more about this sandwich.

By: Fogbert

Fogbert — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:16:00 +0000

It *was* better actually.

Now the feral lawyers advertise on TV.

My personal favorite: the class-action lawsuit. You (the plaintiff) get a coupon for a free sandwich and I (the lawyer) get rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

By: Kevin Hill

Kevin Hill — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:13:00 +0000

Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is designed to limit frivolous suits and motions by requiring that (1) the case or motion is not presented for an improper purpose; and (2) reasonable inquiry was made into the factual and legal contentions made.. The second requirement is particularly helpful in limiting frivolous suits because it requires the attorney to make an independent investigation of the facts underlying the case and his or her signature attests that a reasonable attorney would file such a document and that it is supported by existing law or a reasonable extension of existing law. The upcoming hearing before in Judge Wright’s courtroom is just such a hearing and Prenda’s attorneys could face serious sanctions including jail time.

By: dmatos

dmatos — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:53:00 +0000

Why would they download illegal porn? There’s plenty of free porn on the intertubes.

By: Sam Pourasghar

Sam Pourasghar — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:34:00 +0000

Yup- wait… this does ring of “The Trial”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial

By: Fogbert

Fogbert — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:13:00 +0000

…so the excess lawyers have gone feral…

This made my morning. Absolutely no better way to describe it.

There are now lawyers that don’t lawyer at all–they hunt down plaintiffs for other lawyers.

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:09:00 +0000

“Penda eats babies.” – Zachary Horst

By: Nathan Hornby

Nathan Hornby — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:08:00 +0000

Hmm, smells like a ‘back in my day’ statement to me. Was it really any better in the past? I figure lawyers must have got their reputation from somewhere, and it isn’t from the past decade.

By: prophylaxis

prophylaxis — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:03:00 +0000

In many European countries, Prenda’s behaviour would land them several years in jail just for the identity theft alone, and ordered to pay back the identity theft victim’s losses, even if the victim himself didn’t sue them over it.

I’m actually a bit surprised that identity theft in the US doesn’t carry a mandatory jail sentence when the evidence is right there.

By: elix

elix — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:33:00 +0000

I can’t substantiate this rumour, but I heard someone say that prior to taking up shaking down people for money with the threat of being talked about in the newspaper in conjunction with raunchy gay porn, Prenda’s legal counsel exclusively defended child molesters and wife-beaters. You never know.

By: Zachary Horst

Zachary Horst — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:18:00 +0000

Penda eats babies. You can quote me on that.

By: peregrinus

peregrinus — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:10:00 +0000

zomg!

Maybe she’s just CV building – y’know, showing what a rainmaker she is so that she can slide a greasy sponsored path through the state bar!

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:15:00 +0000

It’s very difficult to get someone declared a vexatious litigant. Here’s a famous one in SF.

In the past two decades, McColm has sued the federal government, the Bank of America, Kaiser, at least three department stores, a host of city workers, numerous private businesses, tenants, and at least two newspapers that printed articles about her. And when I called her yesterday to talk to her about the foreclosure sale and other matters, she told me she will sue me as well.
After she was denied tenure at San Francisco State University, she filed suit contending sex discrimination. When she failed the state bar the second time, she sued the state bar…
…She has sued contractors. She has sued churches. She has sued people for unseen injuries she claimed to have incurred in at least nine car accidents. And she has sued her neighbors so many times that they could form their own support group, if they weren’t so busy scrambling to retain legal counsel.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Harridan-s-Spiteful-Grip-Weakening-Woman-who-2756428.php

By: peregrinus

peregrinus — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:56:00 +0000

Here in England, Northern Ireland (& Wales, don’t forget, but not Scotland necessarily) we have a sanction against bringing “frivolous and vexatious” lawsuits. Don’t you guys have similar in the USA?

Basically, the judge can turn around, inclining of course to the protection of their professional reputation, and tell a plaintiff the suit is f&v so please leave my court and go under to the bridge whence you came.