Comments on: Naked rambler charged over nudity http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Mon, 20 May 2013 05:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Brian Taylor; British Naturism http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1671507 Brian Taylor; British Naturism Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1671507 The real thing that Steve Gough has exposed is just how close we are to being a police state.  There is no law against what he has done, nor should there be as he has harmed no-one.  However, the police have decided that there should be a law against it and having recently had a number of failures trying to use their old favourite, section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 - a catch-all for anything they don't like - they choose to obtain an ASBO (Anti-Social Behaviour Order) which creates a special anti-nudity law for Mr Gough and Mr Gough alone, knowing that, given his record, he will ignore the conditions imposed by the ASBO and therefore open up the possibility of a prison sentence of up to 5 years for breach of his ASBO. This is the police making up the law as they go in order to suit their personal prejudice.  The police are supposed to serve the public with the permission of the public and parliament are supposed to set the law, not the police.  First nudity, next it could be hoodies or a hairstyle they don't like or looking at them in the 'wrong' way whatever that might be.  Where will this police state end? The real thing that Steve Gough has exposed is just how close we are to being a police state.  There is no law against what he has done, nor should there be as he has harmed no-one.  However, the police have decided that there should be a law against it and having recently had a number of failures trying to use their old favourite, section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 – a catch-all for anything they don’t like – they choose to obtain an ASBO (Anti-Social Behaviour Order) which creates a special anti-nudity law for Mr Gough and Mr Gough alone, knowing that, given his record, he will ignore the conditions imposed by the ASBO and therefore open up the possibility of a prison sentence of up to 5 years for breach of his ASBO.

This is the police making up the law as they go in order to suit their personal prejudice.  The police are supposed to serve the public with the permission of the public and parliament are supposed to set the law, not the police.  First nudity, next it could be hoodies or a hairstyle they don’t like or looking at them in the ‘wrong’ way whatever that might be.  Where will this police state end?

]]> By: mickcollins http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1671330 mickcollins Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1671330 naked taco, Why not make all public nudity legal, then in a short time it would not be out of the ordinary at all. curb your lascivious desires instead of making it illegal for the behavior you project onto others -- the rest of us don't live in the 19th century.   I know, if God had wanted us to be naked, we would have been born that way. naked taco,
Why not make all public nudity legal, then in a short time it would not be out of the ordinary at all. curb your lascivious desires instead of making it illegal for the behavior you project onto others — the rest of us don’t live in the 19th century.  

I know, if God had wanted us to be naked, we would have been born that way.

]]> By: bzishi http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670905 bzishi Tue, 05 Mar 2013 05:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670905 Let me get this straight, you want to lock people up because you don't know how to react to something out of the ordinary? But if you did know how to react, you wouldn't want to lock them up? Let me get this straight, you want to lock people up because you don’t know how to react to something out of the ordinary? But if you did know how to react, you wouldn’t want to lock them up?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670790 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670790 I could post some video links if you like. I could post some video links if you like.

]]> By: Donald Petersen http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670781 Donald Petersen Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670781 LOL at "helicopter-dicking."  Don't believe I've done that since I was eight. Have to see if I remember how. LOL at “helicopter-dicking.”  Don’t believe I’ve done that since I was eight. Have to see if I remember how.

]]> By: eldritch http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670766 eldritch Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670766 My guess is they already spent their allowance for books on a Bible. My guess is they already spent their allowance for books on a Bible.

]]> By: Jambe http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670765 Jambe Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670765 Is he thrusting his pelvis at strangers or helicopter-dicking around town squares or something? If not, let the man be. Puritanism should be scourged from the lawbooks. OH, WOE, A VISIBLE COCK AND BOOTY! I FEEL DAMNATION IMPINGING ON MY IMMORTAL SOUL! Is he thrusting his pelvis at strangers or helicopter-dicking around town squares or something? If not, let the man be. Puritanism should be scourged from the lawbooks.

OH, WOE, A VISIBLE COCK AND BOOTY!

I FEEL DAMNATION IMPINGING ON MY IMMORTAL SOUL!

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670764 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670764 Is there a Nacktwald? Is there a Nacktwald?

]]> By: BlackPanda http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670743 BlackPanda Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670743  You should check out Germany, sometime. :)  You should check out Germany, sometime. :)

]]> By: Boundegar http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670720 Boundegar Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670720 +1 +1

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670669 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670669 A lot of people attacked by naked men carrying backpacks where you live? A lot of people attacked by naked men carrying backpacks where you live?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670643 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670643 If he can comfortably wander around naked in the UK, we should be testing him to see if his blood can be used to develop an anti-chill vaccine. If he can comfortably wander around naked in the UK, we should be testing him to see if his blood can be used to develop an anti-chill vaccine.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670636 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670636 <blockquote>Being nude it public is by definition lewd and lascivious.</blockquote>Do the world a favor and buy a dictionary.

Being nude it public is by definition lewd and lascivious.

Do the world a favor and buy a dictionary.

]]> By: Donald Petersen http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670624 Donald Petersen Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670624 Well, then, we gotta ask if people might feel threatened by a naked <b>woman</b> alone in the woods.  Are we banning <b>everyone's</b> nudity just because the naked guys are scary and we don't wanna be sexist in our legislation? Anyhoo, I'm still confident that the most frightening and intimidating fellas out there are the clothed ones.  Of all the arguments trotted out against public nudity, "scariness"?  Well, it's a new one on me. Well, then, we gotta ask if people might feel threatened by a naked woman alone in the woods.  Are we banning everyone’s nudity just because the naked guys are scary and we don’t wanna be sexist in our legislation?

Anyhoo, I’m still confident that the most frightening and intimidating fellas out there are the clothed ones.  Of all the arguments trotted out against public nudity, “scariness”?  Well, it’s a new one on me.

]]> By: Ministry http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670621 Ministry Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670621 Technically not all at once, but he refused to wear clothes when he was released, and the police were waiting outside the prison gate.  Repeat several times Technically not all at once, but he refused to wear clothes when he was released, and the police were waiting outside the prison gate.  Repeat several times

]]> By: Stooge http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670607 Stooge Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670607 Hey, you're the one who thinks only of how you feel threatened while walking your dog without the slightest consideration for those petrified by you and your selectively-bred flesh-ripping slave. Hey, you’re the one who thinks only of how you feel threatened while walking your dog without the slightest consideration for those petrified by you and your selectively-bred flesh-ripping slave.

]]> By: Roose_Bolton http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670561 Roose_Bolton Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670561 The black fluffy wool is actually a matter of pubic record. FTFY The black fluffy wool is actually a matter of pubic record.

FTFY

]]> By: ChuckTV http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670515 ChuckTV Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670515 http://youtu.be/ZkeFaq33bi4 Moby Grape~ Naked If I Want To http://youtu.be/ZkeFaq33bi4

Moby Grape~ Naked If I Want To

]]> By: DreamboatSkanky http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670510 DreamboatSkanky Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670510 "Just because you would not feel threatened by some naked guy alone in the woods does not mean everyone feels that way." Just because you would feel threatened by some naked guy alone in the woods does not mean everyone feels that way. “Just because you would not feel threatened by some naked guy alone in the woods does not mean everyone feels that way.”
Just because you would feel threatened by some naked guy alone in the woods does not mean everyone feels that way.

]]> By: OgilvyTheAstronomer http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670493 OgilvyTheAstronomer Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670493 Sounds like this line of argument could lead to the banning of hoodies, exposed tattoos, facial piercings, controversial messages on T-Shirts and spiky hairstyles, not to mention different ethnicities and/or religious groups having grounds for banning each other from the other's neighbourhoods. The only solution to fear is learning not to fear. And yes, I'm white, male, and up until today thought myself relatively well attuned to the politics of privilege. Sounds like this line of argument could lead to the banning of hoodies, exposed tattoos, facial piercings, controversial messages on T-Shirts and spiky hairstyles, not to mention different ethnicities and/or religious groups having grounds for banning each other from the other’s neighbourhoods.

The only solution to fear is learning not to fear. And yes, I’m white, male, and up until today thought myself relatively well attuned to the politics of privilege.

]]> By: Nash Rambler http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670488 Nash Rambler Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670488 This leads to an interesting stupid question: if one shaved oneself, turned ones body hair into yarn, knitted garments from said yarn, and then wore the aforementioned garment, would you still be technically naked or technically clothed? Gah!  Why am I even thinking about this?!?  I should be playing video games, or even doing my job! This leads to an interesting stupid question: if one shaved oneself, turned ones body hair into yarn, knitted garments from said yarn, and then wore the aforementioned garment, would you still be technically naked or technically clothed?

Gah!  Why am I even thinking about this?!?  I should be playing video games, or even doing my job!

]]> By: OgilvyTheAstronomer http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670484 OgilvyTheAstronomer Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670484 I would feel generally less threatened by someone who is most definitely not concealing a weapon. I would feel generally less threatened by someone who is most definitely not concealing a weapon.

]]> By: Chris Hogan http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670437 Chris Hogan Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670437 A sane legal system would just leave him to go about his business. Is he doing anyone harm by force, fraud or threat? No. Catching his death of cold, that's his lookout. A sane legal system would just leave him to go about his business. Is he doing anyone harm by force, fraud or threat? No.
Catching his death of cold, that’s his lookout.

]]> By: Boundegar http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670421 Boundegar Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670421 The black fluffy wool is actually a matter of public record. The black fluffy wool is actually a matter of public record.

]]> By: tacochuck http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670413 tacochuck Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670413  Yes, threatening. Just because you would not feel threatened by some naked guy alone in the woods does not mean everyone feels that way. My guess is you and most of the folks responding below you are male. Not feeling threatened by a naked man while alone in the woods and being unable to understand how someone could be sounds like a classic case of male privileged to me: "I can't imagine it so there for it is invalid and doesn't exist."  Yes, threatening. Just because you would not feel threatened by some naked guy alone in the woods does not mean everyone feels that way.

My guess is you and most of the folks responding below you are male. Not feeling threatened by a naked man while alone in the woods and being unable to understand how someone could be sounds like a classic case of male privileged to me: “I can’t imagine it so there for it is invalid and doesn’t exist.”

]]> By: Nash Rambler http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670384 Nash Rambler Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670384 Ah, my cousin, Naked Rambler.  He always was the black sheep of the family. Except, you know, without the black fluffy wool. Ah, my cousin, Naked Rambler.  He always was the black sheep of the family. Except, you know, without the black fluffy wool.

]]> By: Nick Hayday http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670372 Nick Hayday Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670372 Them damn animals better put some clothes on too Them damn animals better put some clothes on too

]]> By: Phil Culmer http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670344 Phil Culmer Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670344 So what do you find so threatening about the human body? So what do you find so threatening about the human body?

]]> By: royaltrux http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670341 royaltrux Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670341 threatening? threatening?

]]> By: EvilSpirit http://boingboing.net/2013/03/04/naked-rambler-charged-with-nud.html#comment-1670343 EvilSpirit Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=216452#comment-1670343 I'm not sure I understand how a naked person is a threat. I’m not sure I understand how a naked person is a threat.

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