Comments on: Albania is riddled with decaying Soviet-era bunkers

By: Dorian Hysi

Dorian Hysi — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:36:00 +0000

The Albania shown in that documentary has changed somewhat, at least Tirana has changed. There Palin showed Zogu i Zi and said basically Albania wasn’t progressing. At that time maybe that was true, we were coming out from a devastating crisis that almost initiated a civil war (some say it did: we sure have more than 2000 victims as proof of it), but now Tirana at least is thriving. I don’t know if it’s going to endure or if there’s another crisis in our future (we are like rape victims that way: we always see some agressor in the shadows), but for now Tirana is a somewhat rich modern city, although still with caotic traffic.

By: Dorian Hysi

Dorian Hysi — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:11:00 +0000

Great ideas… hmm, who’s paying? ‘Cause that’s the problem: those damn things are tough to destroy (duh, they were built to withstand a heavy bombardment) and our government doesn’t have that kind of money, not for something that’s very irritating, but not much more.

By: Dorian Hysi

Dorian Hysi — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:04:00 +0000

Good idea! I’m Albanian and I have one of those to sell. How much are you willing to pay?

By: Illyricum Sacrum

Illyricum Sacrum — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:37:00 +0000

After building the first few bunkers, the dictator (SOB) Hoxha personally picked a random bunker and ordered the chief-Architect to go inside and remain in until the order was given to come out, soon after a Soviet made T-59 Tank hit the bunker… the Architect and the bunker survived the hit without any major damage (the Architect was shaken but not harmed, not even a scratch)
This is how bunkers were tested by an crazy dictator in Albania!

By: Mark Shelby

Mark Shelby — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:39:00 +0000

They should level them & fill them with concrete, basically creating large round (incredibly solid) concrete pads. Then they should let each locality decide what to put on top of each pad. A statue or sculpture honoring culture & heritage? A small building or cottage? Yes, even a Starbucks. But give a level surface to create something functional and/or beautiful out of something from a useless & bygone era. That’s my idea anyway.

By: Jay Stephens

Jay Stephens — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:49:00 +0000

The history is complex of course, but if Hoxha’s (bloody horrible) dictator politics is gonna be reduced to a single adjective, “Maoist” would be significantly more accurate than “Soviet”.
Book looks interesting and offbeat.

By: brucearthurs

brucearthurs — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:12:00 +0000

In a more general vein, Keith Mallory’s book THE ARCHITECTURE OF WAR was a fascinating book. Castles, bunkers, sea forts, etc.

By: brucearthurs

brucearthurs — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:05:00 +0000

Twenty-four bunkers per square kilometer? One word: Starbucks.

By: Richard Kirk

Richard Kirk — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:53:00 +0000

Yay! Enver Hoxha for Papa Smurf!

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:21:00 +0000

Also Cape Henloppen on the Delaware side. Besides the huge bunker designed to hold a shore battery of guns, there seems to be miles of bunkers back in the woods.

See also the bunkers and antiaircraft pads on Diamondhead overlooking Waikiki.

And there are at least some small ones around San Francisco

By: Albi Qeli

Albi Qeli — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:38:00 +0000

these things were everywhere when I grew up
i wouldn’t want to go in them though
i had to train in them, and everytime i go into one, first thing to do is clean someone else’s poopoo so it won’t smell

By: firstiejoe

firstiejoe — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:27:00 +0000

When I visited Albania they were painting them up as giant mushrooms. This was near Butrinti which is well worth a visit.

By: Cicada Mania

Cicada Mania — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:09:00 +0000

There’s a lot of this sort of stuff along the east cost of the US too. You just need to know where to look. New Jersey is rife with it, (Mostly in the woods).

By: Narmitaj

Narmitaj — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:56:00 +0000

In the mid-80s I went to Corfu, a Greek island that sits (well, half of it anyway) just off the Albanian coast, with the closest distance less than one and a half miles. In those days Albania was mysterious and cut off from the rest of the world, so it was odd to sit and peer across and see all the bunkers and pill-boxes dotted along the opposite coast.

Mind you, where I live – rural Somerset, in the UK – we also have pillboxes and bunkers dotted about in the countryside for fear of invasion. Not as many as Albania, though, and you odn’t see many in built-up areas.

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:41:00 +0000

Cisterns, mushroom farms, urban tree planters, talapia aquaculture, methane generators, mausoleums.

By: Preston Sturges

Preston Sturges — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:20:00 +0000

I was reminded of Fellini’s “8 1/2″ where the prostitute La Saraghina lives in an abandoned bunker on the beach.

By: Nash Rambler

Nash Rambler — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:14:00 +0000

Meanwhile, in a secret corporate facility, McDonald’s feverishly pours concrete into “M” shaped molds, and prints thousands of Albanian-translated franchise brochures.

By: gandalf23

gandalf23 — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:02:00 +0000

use them as sheds/storage? tornado shelters? use them in the world’s largest paintball game? “This Memorial Day weekend the _entire_ country of Albania is Paintball-Con 2013!”

I’d love two or three bunkers in my backyard! For sheds/storage, tornado shelters (right now the tornado siren is going off, but I think it’s just the usual mid-week test), and paintball!

And for teaching the kids history! ”Alright kids, you in the bunkers are the French manning the Maginot Line, and you kids on bikes are the Germans. Ride your bikes through the neighbor’s yard and up the alley and come in the gate behind the bunkers.” And re-enacting scenes from Star Wars! ”Uncle Owen! Aunt Beru!!!!” :)

By: Christopher

Christopher — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:43:00 +0000

And here I thought I was the only one who got that stuck in his head whenever I heard anything about Albania.

By: Wreckrob8

Wreckrob8 — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:00 +0000

Jeez. Americans and geography. Albania is the old Latin name for Albany. This is in upstate New York.

By: TheKaz1969

TheKaz1969 — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:33:00 +0000

Damn, you beat me to the punch!

By: Nezrite

Nezrite — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:25:00 +0000

Albania, Albania, it borders on the Adriatic…

By: Matthew Terry

Matthew Terry — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:55:00 +0000

That’s not Albania, it’s Tatooine

By: tompolley

tompolley — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:55:00 +0000

“Uncle Owen! Aunt Beru!”

First thing I thought when I saw the top picture.

By: Christopher

Christopher — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:53:00 +0000

I guess they don’t have tornadoes in Albania, but if I had one of those things in my yard that’s what I’d use for shelter. Heck, here’s an idea for repurposing them: dig ‘em up and ship ‘em to Kansas.

By: mindysan33

mindysan33 — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:45:00 +0000

Hoxa was a particularly nasty Stalinist, breaking with the Soviet sphere in the early 60s I think. Albanians in Albania proper tend to much shorter and more unhealthy then their counterparts in other parts of the Balkans, even right across the hills in Kosova… He was more like the Kims in North Korea than say Tito or Castro, both of whom had ties with numerous other countries.

Also, Michael Palin’s travel show that aired a few years ago had an episode where they went to the Balkans. They went through all the former Yugoslavian countries, and then left from Croatia to go to Albania via ship. The captain spent the entire trip complaining about how he did not want to go to Albania, which was kind of funny. The scenary made Albania seem like a lackluster and boring place compared to places like Croatia, Serbia, and Bosnia. Also, it was the only place where people seemed to want to go back to the old days (no one in former Yugoslav countries thought that they should).

And is the case whenever anyone says anything at all about the Balkans, people thought Palin was engaging in political commentary by pointing out a bridge that was bombed in Mostar:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/aug/04/bbc.balkans

I found it a pretty balanced program, frankly. He kind of bent over backwards to not lay blame.

By: Dlo Burns

Dlo Burns — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:35:00 +0000

I was thinking trash cans/incinerators.

By: ayuvar

ayuvar — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:26:00 +0000

The inner-city pillboxes look like they could be pretty good mailboxes; the slot is big enough to accept parcels and your friendly local mailman would have some shade while they collect the mail for front-door delivery.

By: Wreckrob8

Wreckrob8 — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:25:00 +0000

They were actually built by aliens thousands of years ago according to a secret pattern which from the air reveals to the initiated when they will return. Enver Hoxha is just a myth created to keep the masses ignorant of their true purpose.

By: Christopher

Christopher — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:15:00 +0000

For a long time I’ve wanted to visit Albania without being entirely sure why. Now I know: I want to visit the place in the top photo. I want to spend the night in one of those giant mushroomy bunkers surrounded by that much beauty and silence. I want to see that place at all times of the day.

I know that doesn’t really help ordinary Albanians, but hopefully my tourist dollars will help a little.