Guatemala: Day 5 of Montt genocide trial; "They viewed us as if we were not people."


4 Responses to “Guatemala: Day 5 of Montt genocide trial; "They viewed us as if we were not people."”

  1. frenchgeek says:

    “…And that’s what your holy men discuss, is it?” [asked Granny Weatherwax.]

    “Not usually. There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment on the nature of sin. for example.” [answered Mightily Oats.]

    “And what do they think? Against it, are they?”

    “It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray.”



    “There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.”

    “It’s a lot more complicated than that–”

    “No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

    “Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes–”

    “But they starts with thinking about people as things…”

    –from Carpe Jugulum, by Terry Pratchett.

  2. Charles-A Rovira says:

    The term is objectification and it is at the heart of every damn bully man has faced, every damn act of serial murder and every damn psychopathic thought.

    Its caused by a pathological lack of empathy.

  3. llazy8 says:

    Thank you, Xeni, for continuing your coverage of this trial.  Just like the Crimes against Humanity trials in Argentina over the last few years, it’s really, incredibly important for a society to deal with these horrors out in the open, and to denounce them outright.  And for the US to start to fully process what the US government’s complicity in these killings really is, though we’re still too dangerous for anyone to try to take our leaders to World Court.  Yet. 

    I think it’s hard to comment on, because a lot of us have so little informed opinion, and I for one don’t want to sound ignorant.  But, just reading it and passing it along to all the people who are for Pan-Americanism with full indigenous participation is awesome.  And hard.  Thx again.  

  4. Ken Williams says:

    There is another injustice going on right now in Guatemala, perpetrated by Americans looking for gold, of all things – a strongly compelling movie is being made about it and is about to be released. .  Maggie, [some of] the makers are based in Minneapolis too.

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