North Korean leader Kim Jong-Eun is a Mac Guy

As Anthony DeRosa of Reuters points out, Li'l Kim appears to be using Apple computer products in the most recent round of state propaganda photo campaign. Stop laughing, says The Atlantic.


  1. What brand of computer he uses is news? Who is using Reuters to distract us from what?

    Apple is the #1 selling brand of computer in the world; finding someone using one is hardly news.

    1. Really? I couldn’t find statistics to back this up. As recently as Q1 2012 they weren’t in the top 5…

        1. ha, sorry. forgot to include game playing and web surfing in my figures.. :)

          I suppose if you could anything with a “computer” in it, you’d probably need to factor in samsung’s phones, refrigerators and washers and dryers…

          1. I see what you are getting at in the end, but this semantics game is just plain silly. I can just as easily reference a wikipedia article that talks about computers in washing machines ( for those playing at home), so you conclusion may be sensible, but your arguments are not that strong…

            Computers in washing machnes?? huh.. welcome to 2013 ;)

          2.  That’s what my father uses his unnecessarily expensive multi-screened PC set-up for.  I don’t think he’s unusual in that way, either.

          1. Ipads you have to count pretty much any phone,  console, smart tv, roku,  etc.

            A phone isn’t considered a general purpose, mobile computer (yet), a game console isn’t considered a general purpose computer, nor is a smart television, etc.

            A tablet computer is just that, a computer. You may define things differently, but most IT professionals think differently.

            More on this here.

          2. @cowicide:twitter  – Depends on what you are talking about to the IT professionals. While you can certainly program a tablet (in this case an iPad) to do a lot of things, it becomes increasingly different to actually program on one. So, while it is certainly a computing device, it is a somewhat limited one compared to a full-fledged computer.That being said, what you can develop to run and compute on an iPad, you can pretty much also program to do on phones, smart TVs, etc.
            It seems you are selectively picking devices to prove your point.

            So, yes, if you include laptops, desktops and tablets and stop there, then you have statistics to back up Apple as the #1 selling computer maker in the world. Happy?

            Sorry – the IT professional in me coming out.

          3. If an iPad is a tablet computer, then a Vespa is a battle tank.

            Bad analogies are like bananas in a swordfight.

    2. 1) Pjay: #1 selling computer brand? How are you measuring that? If you take historical sales into account then that figure is patently wrong. If you include tablets and are talking about only in the last year or so then you may be correct, though HP and Lenovo are selling relatively the same number of units as Apple. That and the picture in question is of a standard laptop/desktop computer of which Apple has never been the #1 selling brand.

      2) Cow, I have to take you to to task on the ‘tablet computers’ bit. Please explain to me how a tablet and a smartphone differ as candidates for the title ‘computer’? Don’t say screen size because I can negate that by plugging my smartphone into my TV and using a bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Don’t say hardware specification dominance because there are plenty of smartphones that rival or beat leading tablets. Don’t say OS because it’s the same on phones and on tablets.

      Tablets compute, but they are still a distinctly different product from what people typically consider to be a personal computer. There are a range of functions that at present cannot be achieved by using an ipad/android tab. Coding was mentioned as an example which is not easy (or even impossible) on a tablet. I would also contend that tools/software which demand precision (I’m talking Photoshop, InDesign, Premiere) are not yet up-to-scratch on tabs. I agree that the new windows 8 tablets do start to erode this divide between tablets and PCs (because they run a fully-featured OS), but since their market share is junk at the moment I’d say they have a long way to come before being relevant to the discussion.

      3) Apple fans, Apple haters: STFU. I use Win, OSX & Android. I am better than all of you :)

    1.  Betty Crocker’s Yellow Cake mix, probably.

      It would explain how ineffective their nukes seem to be…

  2. Does this means North Korea has enough ingeneering capacity to install Linux Red Star OS on a Mac?

      1. Don’t be sorry. Got my first apple computer back in the late 70s. Taught myself to program and it gave me a very successful career. Thanks.

  3. I’m more intrigued by the fact that the Junior is finally using Wifi. I mean, check out the unplugged yellow Ethernet cable right under the monitor.

  4. Fiercely controlled territory with zero tolerance of competing platforms: Check
    Masses of devoted followers ready to defend every last foible: Check
    Strict uniformity of design and thought: Check

    Of course he is using a Mac.  NK is no more ‘communist’ than Apple is egalitarian.  They fit perfectly (when we accept that Apple and all other major computer  are morality-free corporations).

    1.  Has anyone ever edited the original Apple commercial to put Steve Jobs in place of the giant face on the telescreen demanding conformity in all things and that there is only one true way to think?

      It’s amazing how quickly they went from “Think Different” to “Think Like Us Or Begone, Peasant!”

    2. Fiercely controlled territory with zero tolerance of competing platforms: Check

      You mean Microsoft?

      Because you should.

      Masses of devoted followers ready to defend every last foible: Check

      You also mean Microsoft users? Android users? Fixed-gear bike users? Bare feet shoe users?

      You should.

      Strict uniformity of design and thought: Check

      So you think all Mac users think alike?  You should let Xeni and Rush Limbaugh know that.

      Of course he is using a Mac.

      Did a Mac beat you up when you were a kid or something?

       Disclaimer:  I use Windows, Linux and Mac and none of those Operating Systems define me.   Does yours?

      1.  Nope.  I use computers that are as good as I can afford when the old one breaks.  Since they seem to break when I am poor it is usually not a Mac.

        That said, are you asserting there aren’t large groups of people who get all tribal about their iProducts? 

        Personally I don’t care, but it seemed a good idea for a joke.

        1. are you asserting there aren’t large groups of people who get all tribal about their iProducts?


  5. Americans should be deeply concerned about these events. While the North may eventually be able to put a nuclear weapon on top of a long-range missile and attack the United States, Pyongyang’s bombs can already reach our friends in South Korea and Japan. There is also a danger that North Korea may export nuclear technology to other rogue states, like Iran and terrorist groups. Remember that the North did send a nuclear reactor for producing bomb-making material to Syria — luckily Israeli warplanes destroyed the unfinished facility in 2006. The danger of exports will grow in the future if the North’s nuclear arsenal continues to grow.


    1. Wohaa, where did that come from? Did you read the comments under the ‘Atlantic’ post? Seems to me the commenters there take it as defaetistic, apologetic, and far-to-pacifistic piece of work.

      I’m confused.

  6. i wonder if they had to disassemble that mac and inspect the crap out of every circuit for some type of spyware?

    Then again have our president’s devices been through a fine tooth comb?

  7. “Here’s To The Crazy Ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes.
    The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status-quo.”

    Well, I guess our buddy Kim Jong-Eun fits that description….

  8. A bit late in the thread for initial impressions, but the first thought that came to mind when I saw the headline was: even a stopped clock is right two times a day.

  9. Actually, he’s not *using* a Mac.  He has one on his desk.  He’s possibly *using* a pen and paper though.  

    He also has lots of really old style telephones. That must mean something.

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