Game of Thrones S3E2: Ladies, leave your men at home

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  1. Trent Baker says:

    There is a problem with having read the books. You know whats going to happen, but you just can’t look away, like an accident happening in slow motion. Of course the writers, with GRRMartin’s blessing have taken some liberties with the plot, but its still essentially the same story and so I am practically cringing in expectation of what is going to happen.

  2. Roose_Bolton says:

    I’m pretty sure that’s not Bolton’s son who happens upon Jaime and Brienne.

    • Hannah T says:

      No, it’s ‘Locke’, a bannerman for Roose and a stand-in for some of Vargo Hoat’s bits IIRC. Ramsay was in the episode though…spoilers.

      • Roose_Bolton says:

        Oh, the Bastard was deffo in there  ;)

        • Leigh Alexander says:

          Once again, Roose_Bolton is aptly correct on all Harrenhal-related matters. It was the flayed man banner that totally threw me (the Bloody Mummers are s’posed to have a goat flag, are ostensibly ‘for the Lannisters’, etc). Why do you think they replaced Hoat with a Bolton-affiliated man? Simplifies things? Did they talk about this anywhere? 

          • Francis Delaney says:

            Possibly to keep the cast list down? I dunno, I would have loved to have heard Vargo Hoat’s lithp on the show. 

            Though, upon research, apparently he is cast. Odd.

          • Roose_Bolton says:

            Definitely compresses and thus simplifies the timeline. I was hoping to see slobbery Vargo, though.

          • Roose_Bolton says:

            Hold on – Hoat has been cast? Maybe that WAS the Mummers who caught J&B after all, just in their Bolton get-up?

  3. Roose_Bolton says:

    Oh, and to answer your question, my favourite woman in the series is Brienne, the underdog with a moral code second to none. She’s possibly the only true hero of the story.

  4. Church says:

    Arya is my favorite, although (because?) her story is a grim one. The show has toned that down a little, so far, and I’m curious to see how they treat it going forward.

    • you guys says:

      Toned down a lot, more like. She executed the escape from Harrenhal alone in the second book, and killed one of Roose Bolton’s guards in cold blood to accomplish it. The series producers seem to be missing the point of her character arc.

  5. kibby says:

    I love Sansa’s storyline for how it’s a brutal crash course in what it’s like to be a noblewoman in Westeros. The courtly life she spent her childhood romanticizing reveals itself to be mine field of politics. Her teen crush turns out to be a bloodthirsty opressor. Sexuality is a terrifying thing in all the ways it leaves her vulnerable, from the threats of rape to how it could forever bind her to Joffrey as the mother of his children. Then there are all the tolls on your ability to love, as outlined by Cersei in the tower during the battle of Blackwater. My friends who’ve read the books tell me Sansa’s viewpoint is near intolerable for how selfish and vapid she comes off, but I find that she’s one of the most empathic characters on the show. She’s a young girl with simple wants and who by no means deserves the dangerous and constrictive situation she’s found herself in. It’s really compelling to see how someone without a chessmaster’s brain navigates it all with the resources available to her.

    Margaery and Cersei are equally great to me, especially when contrasting how they go about in their bids for power. Natalie Dormer also gave a great interview on her character in this Rolling Stone interview (http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/game-of-thrones-q-a-natalie-dormer-on-playing-the-kate-middleton-of-westeros-20130401) that pretty much outlines what I find fascinating about Margaery’s portrayal.

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  6. Mat Linnett says:

    I squeed when Olenna Redwyne was revealed to be Diana Rigg last night.
    She fits the role perfectly.

    It’s odd discussing Rigg here in response to this article, as to me growing up, there were few women portrayed as sexually on TV as Emma Peel. When a certain generation of men talk about Princess Leia and puberty, for me it’s Diana Rigg as Emma Peel. I can’t help it, it’s tied very closely to who I am. And yet, I relish in her performances. There was an aspect of this even in the aforementioned puberty. I wasn’t simply relishing her cat-suit clad curves; I was savouring the richness and sumptuousness of her character and performance. And thanks to this, I still find her as much a treat now as I did then.

    Here’s to an incredibly strong and beautiful lady.

    • phuzz says:

       mm, Diana Rigg, if only I were 50 years older….
      Although, Mrs Peel in the Avengers may have worn catsuits, but she was more often than not the one who rescued Steed, rather than the other way around.

      • Preston Sturges says:

        Remember Mrs. Peels dog collar chokers?  Very ferushy.

        I adored Mrs. Peel, although her fight scenes were pure slapstick. 

  7. I am starting to think I should read the books… my favourite woman character in the series is Brienne “the beauty” by a mile. She has a body figure that most men will dread. Through her men have no power over women… i sort of respect that.

  8. Brian Boyko says:

    Am I the only geek in the world who (in the words of the late Roger Ebert,) Hated, Hated, Hated, Hated, Hated that show?

    I realized that the biggest fantasy about the whole thing is that it’s a society where power is proportional to stupidity.  You have an entire society of people whose main characteristic is that they have lofty ambitions and poor impulse control.  Of COURSE they’re going to screw things up for themselves and others. But I guess I’m just one of those guys who CAN look away from a trainwreck – especially when the whole point is to see how characters decide to aim the train instead of diverting it safely onto another track.  Really – the only thing that could get me to watch Game of Thrones right now is if Ash Williams shows up, yells “Listen up, you primitive screwheads, this is my BOOMSTICK,” then proceeds to institute a constitutional democracy.

  9. duncancreamer says:

    So I guess I don’t have to watch that episode.

  10. RadioSilence says:

    posted in wrong place, oops!

  11. Я. Fish says:

    I’m a big fan of Yara (Asha).

    • Roose_Bolton says:

      I wonder how much more time her character is going to get in the series. So far, we haven’t really seen in the series just how strong and independent she is in the books. Fingers crossed.

  12. nemryn says:

    As someone who has neither read the books nor watched the show, I’m going to have to go with Daenerys, because eeeee cute widdle baby dragons.

  13. you guys says:

    The Brotherhood Without Banners is led by Beric Dondarrion, they were dispatched by Ned Stark in the first book/first season to hunt down Gregor Clegane. 

  14. Erasure 25 says:

    SPOILERY…

    The entire Harrenhal plot has been changed to not introduce the Brave Companions. I do think it would be too much for TV to have another unaffiliated band running around. Plus IIRC, the Brave Companions switch sides and then the group breaks up and scatters all over Westeros, which would lead to necessarily complicated mechanics for TV.  I suspect Vargo Hoat would be too comical.  Just as they got rid of the multi-colored rainbow capes of Renly’s Rainbow Guard, Vargo’s lisp would have been a touch too comical for the TV show.

    As far as women, I love Danaerys, though am perturbed about the missing prophecies.  The Tower of the Undying plotline in Season 2 fell flat for me because of the missing visions of Rhaegar, and such.  Dany seems to have a larger destiny but we are not really getting that.  (Same is true for Jon Snow.)  I’ve heard Dany’s Unsullied arc is supposed to be much better, so I can’t wait to get more into that.

  15. Preston Sturges says:

    You may remember the girl Cecy from 
    The Homecoming by Ray Bradbury in “The October Country.

  16. Preston Sturges says:

    Margaery’s character is clearly supposed to be several years older than Joffery and is a lot more worldly, so she’s pretty confident she can lead him around.
    Her work with the poor in the most hostile quarter of the city cultivates her own power base. 

  17. I dunno man, I felt the series has done the exact opposite and specifically avoided the “men use swords women use wiles” thing. Actually I think the whole series is intended to portray a political situation in its actual wiley nuance as opposed to the typical genre play of gathering up an army and defeating the bad guy. Not only is no one really the bad guy, no one who’s gathered up an army has fared any better for it. The people doing best are quiet manipulators like Varys and Tyrion and Littlefinger and shortly Daenerys. Everyone with a combative mindset is screwing up more or less nonstop, from Cersei to Theon to Robb to Stannis.

    But that’s just my take on it.

    My favorite woman is still probably Yara/Asha.

  18. Linley Lee says:

    I don’t know if you are meant to or not, but I always hated Catelyn.

  19. Hard to narrow down. I think I have the most respect for Sansa, not so much because of the character herself but the understated performance of Sophie Turner, who throughout manages to come across as simultaneously vacuous and utterly terrified. The scene of her first meeting Olenna, where she finally gets to say what she really thinks, was one of my favourite scenes from the books and something I’d looked forward to seeing. I think she carried it perfectly.

    As an aside, GRR Martin has openly stated how much he admires the Osha character in the TV series. As with the books, she’d been intended as a minor character, but Natalia Tena did such a good job with her that they extended her role to make her more intriguing. Martin has commented that if he was to do it all over again, he’d want to do more with her character based on what he’d seen on the show.

  20. Nathalie Pelletier says:

    The Tyrell women are fantastic right now. And I never get enough of Arya of course. Great acting all around!

  21. drdestructo says:

    I always thought “Brave Companions” was a pretty cool name for a band of mercenaries. They sound like they’d help paint your house and fix your truck, then stick around for a few beers. What pleasant fellows!

    • Preston Sturges says:

      The Companions was the name of Alexander The Greats elite cavalry squad.

      I’m pretty sure they were all gay. 

  22. heng says:

    The from in “from whence” is superfluous; “whence” is plenty. Just a (hopefully) helpful editing hint.

  23. Great article. Thank you.

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