Breathtaking ATM hack nets $45M in hours

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26 Responses to “Breathtaking ATM hack nets $45M in hours”

  1. knoxblox says:

    The burning question for me is who killed Lajud-Pena? Was it infighting? Did somebody spill the beans and he was targeted by an outside party?

    • gracchus says:

      The best theory I’ve seen is that he was a cut-out between the foot troops and the actual ringleaders.

      • Boundegar says:

        Here’s another burning question: they indicted a dead guy?  Really?

        • gracchus says:

          As the saying goes, if he’s a good prosecutor he can indict a ham sandwich.

        • anonotwit says:

          I assume the prosecutors either didn’t know he was dead or didn’t have sufficient confirmation. I imagine it’s easier to indict a dead guy than to add him later if it turns out that reports of his death were greatly exaggerated.

  2. gracchus says:

    Meanwhile, the bankers as are looking at this heist and sniffing “Amateurs!”

    • DewiMorgan says:

      Pretty much what I was thinking. I honestly wouldn’t willingly perform a crime to get me locked up unless I could get at least a million for myself from it. From eight people and $400k, that’s only $50k each in New York.
      It’s a nice wage for two and a half hours’ work, but it’s kinda chickenfeed once you add in their sentences, the fact they probably only got a fraction of that, and the 1-in-8 murder chance.

      • fireshadow says:

        In the second operation they did $2.4 million in 10 hours … does that make it better for you?

        • DewiMorgan says:

          Same math applies. 

          $2.4M/8 = $300k, which is well over my annual wage every hour for ten hours.
          But, like a bank teller who handles that much, these people will not have been getting much more than a sniff of that. And even if they were getting 100%, that’s still not worth a 1-in-8 murder chance?

      • Antinous / Moderator says:

        And yet, most criminals end up with $37, or maybe a giant banana with dreadlocks.

  3. daneyul says:

    I hate thieves.  But still… gotta admire the scope and organization.  
    And they were stealing from other thieves, which mitigates it somewhat.

  4. mtdna says:

    Hey – isn’t that the same amount as the banks take every day in ATM fees?

  5. signsofrain says:

    Power to the people Coz. 
    Power to the people Marty.

  6. B E Pratt says:

    This seems to point out what I’ve been trying to say for ages, which is that money is precisely what Gibson tried to call cyberspace: a consensual hallucination. I’ve  always had fun asking economics majors what money was and then pointing out that they had merely defined coinage. Money is weird. It is a ghost that can kill. Among many other things. Not all of them bad.

    • awjt says:

      Nice.  So much of what we live, breathe and consume is pure fiction.  People say, oh it’s not, it’s real!  Of course, there are real effects – emotions and thoughts are *real*.  But the fantasies that generated them are not *real* in the sense that they are original or self-generating, like gravity or a tree.  Politics, banking, law, money, systems of behavior… all of it is samsara, maya, consensual hallucination.  Very few things are real.  Zen guys try to say, oh, everything is samsara.  I disagree. It is hard to tell what is real, what is collective hallucination.  But there is a small list of stuff that is really real, and a vast continuum of stuff extending from the really real off into the totally made up.  It’s also as you say, not all bad.  Signifiers are wonderful.  Knowing the signified, deeply, intimately, personally, is even more wonderful.

      • TheMadLibrarian says:

         “If you’re going to go on about objective vs. subjective reality, I swear I’m going to come down there and bite you on the leg.” Badly misquoted for Diane Duane.

      • DewiMorgan says:

        I agree. Everything is collective hallucination. Or, reality. There is no black and white line.

        My keyboard is arguably mostly not real – it’s empty space, or a twisting of strings, or… and yet, I am using it, to write words which are not real – they’re just ones and zeroes, displayed to me by varying brightnesses. And it’s not like written language is real, it’s just a very indirect way of representing words, which are a very indirect way of representing concepts, which…

        It is very easy to disappear into your own navel once you start to argue whether something is real, whether it’s money or time or whatever.

  7. LoneSwimmer says:

    Anyone remember BoingBoing’s previous crusade against Chip & Pin cards? Countries with Chip & Pin weren’t affected.

  8. Lemoutan says:

    Why are we still using money? It doesn’t work right.

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