UK film industry requisitions cops for massive raid on suspected pirate, get to question him at police station

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26 Responses to “UK film industry requisitions cops for massive raid on suspected pirate, get to question him at police station”

  1. Boundegar says:

    In America it might be possible for him to sue for false arrest; in fact it might even be possible even if he was guilty as hell. Is this not possible in the UK?

  2. peregrinus says:

    http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/about/

    The Federation Against Copyright Theft is the UK’s leading trade organisation established to protect and represent the interests of its members’ Intellectual Property (IP).

    I’m a little confused about how a trade organisation is allowed to interview a suspect in police custody.  That’s pretty suss in itself.  My work is blocking the link – did he have a lawyer present?

  3. BookGuy says:

    Anything that might encourage more people to actually see the movies in the Fast and Furious franchise is an emergency.   Not in the copyright sense, though.  More like public health.

  4. knoxblox says:

    I half-expected Robert Vaughn to be heading up this task force, but the plot doesn’t quite fit.

  5. Marko Raos says:

    Hell, what’s this world coming to? And for a unicorn chaser, lets have another post on how Disneyland is grand.

  6. endrest says:

    Ha! This guy isn’t allowed to go to a movie theater under the conditions of his bail? Look at the picture included with the post. So now his only recourse is to wait till a DVD release or …. pirate movies..? How can someone be denied going to a public business?  It’s like someone convicted of creating a copyrighted 3D-printed meal and not being allowed to go to the grocery.  Well, almost.

    • austinhamman says:

      “How can someone be denied going to a public business?”
      the same way a sex offender can be denied going near a school or a stalker from going within 500 feet of the stalked.
      not to say this is anywhere near the same situation, only the same authority.

      • endrest says:

         First off, he’s not a sex offender or stalker.  That’s a completely different case of circumstances.  Schools aren’t inherently ‘public’ in that you, most likely, have to have a reason to go there, like having a child that attends one or giving a presentation.  If you have a restraining order against you, you’re simply forbidden from being in a certain proximity from a certain person… you can still go to public places; you just have to hope you’re not going to be in the same place as that person.

         This guy hasn’t even been charged with anything except “Miscellaneous Offense” –an extremely vague charge! If they really wanted to make a scene, they probably could have said he couldn’t access the internet, which, would be like saying you can’t have electricity or water.  Some countries have already claimed that internet access is a daily necessity for conducting daily business.

      • Antinous / Moderator says:

        Restraining orders/ ASBOs were a good idea for violent spouses that are now being issued like they were parking tickets.

  7. flickerKuu says:

    So let me get this straight- Banks steal millions of dollars from old ladies retirement funds, and no one is arrested. A kid downloads a movie, and 10 cops come to his house. Hmnnn….

    • endrest says:

       Exactly.  Society seems to have its priorities completely backwards. I was upset at seeing many friends’ parent’s houses STOLEN from them by banks performing extremely questionable acts, like the robo-signing of documents. Those homes were simply snatched up by VCs to be rented at exorbitant rates… Pathetic.

      • James Penrose says:

         So they swooped in with no warning whatsoever while your friends’ parents were not in default on their mortgage and were in fact completely up to date on payments? Astounding

        Just want to be sure so I can help you curse the right people.

        (It’s amazing how many people think it’s OK to break the rules on their end (non-payment of a loan without any penalty or compensation to those who loaned them a few hundred thousand dollars) but think the other side should be crucified when they break the rules.

        • Boundegar says:

          You want to help…  curse… wait…  what the hell? You want to support the poor oppressed banks is what. I hate to break it to you, but they’re doing just fine without your help.

  8. That_Anonymous_Coward says:

    Maybe someone needs to allege that FACT is misusing monies it has collected and start a private prosecution… for the children of course.

  9. BradBell says:

    FACT are the software police too. They are the kind of people who say, “Nice place you got here. Shame if anything should happen to it.” Then they offer to sell you software to catalogue your software licences, and to sell you insurance to protect yourself in case someone alleges you have infringed copyright [wink, wink]. You have to show them faux respect and confer faux legitimacy on the shakedown. 

    It’s not that they are actually a criminal gang in the conventional sense. But they treat everyone as a criminal and they have enormous power, which lends a certain aggressive and authoritarian tone to the proceedings. 

    But if you are extremely polite and courteous and faux earnest enough, you will be fine. You can decide, after much sincere deliberation, that you would not benefit from any of their products at this point in time, and you will be fine. Your business will not be destroyed, and they may never call again. 

    And then, on reflection you will conclude the whole point of the meetings and auditing process was simply to put the fear of god and copyright in you. It is important you have a visceral, emotional reaction to copyright infringement. That’s the important thing. That’s why they have to be so stern and shake people down. Otherwise society as we know it will collapse.

  10. Ray Ellis says:

    I’ve worked in more than one cinema (in nearly every department, including projection) so I can categorically state that most cinema employees don’t give a shit about FACT or people taking ropey phone-cam video of movies.

    As a projectionist, with every other release (even the obscure ones) we’d get a FACT “warning” telling us how vulnerable the release was and that we should be extra vigilant against piracy! We even had night-vision goggles to help us catch such miscreants! Did we bother with any of it? Hell no!

    Trouble is, most cinemas are understaffed, which means the workers never have time to stand around and watch out for people in stripey “I am a criminal” shirts bearing cameras. They just don’t care!

    Real issue here is a private organisation abusing public servants, i.e. FACT co-opting the police for their own ends. Maybe if the cops took a leaf out of the cinema employees “Yeah, right!” handbook and told FACT to go get a life, a lot more serious crimes might get resolved.

    I mean, seriously, is there nothing better for the police to do with their time?

  11. Neill "Dire" Mitchell says:

    I not sure how I would feel being questioned – under caution I guess (I too can’t read the original article at work) – by some suit from a trade organisation, I do know that I would give their questions as much importance as ones coming from any other random person.

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