David Pescovitz at 2:17 pm Sat, Jun 1, 2013
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Jean Stapleton, who most famously played Edith Bunker on "All in the Family," has died. She was 90 years old. (via CNN)
Big bucket o’ win, that one.
That’s sad news…. A true slice of Americana, that show…
Can you imagine trying to get it on the air now?
It (or a modernized version of it) would definitely fit in on a few of the cable channels. I think Louis C.K.’s first series, Lucky Louie, on HBO, had a lot in common with All in the Family… it was almost an homage in some respects.
Not on network, though.
I wonder if these shows are on netflix – AITF, Jeffersons, Maude…? I have yet to see either Cosby Show or Roseanne, which were the two best sitcoms of the 80s, hands down. What about Golden Girls?
(runs off to look on netflix)
Those three shows are on TVLand out here on the east coast every day.
No cable, so it’s netflix or the highway for me. Though TV Land is owned by Nick, so maybe one day.
AITF, Maude, and Good Times are all on my local Antenna TV affiliate (36-3 in atlanta.) This is a free, over-the-air network: http://www.antennatv.tv will show local availability. Between them, RetroTV, and the MeTV network, I get to watch pretty much any classic TV show worth a damn. tuning them in can be a pain, but even a co-ax touching my anglepoise lamp got me most of the stations in my area.
Thanks for that! Maybe the best thing I’ve ever seen Sammy Davis do.
Not only would it be too honest for today but the studio execs would insist on making the daughter one of the Kardashians.
Maybe, but it wouldn’t make sense now. It would have to have a different set of issues to work through. I think that was Lear’s goal, was to work through some of the issues that came along with the tail end of the Civil Rights movement, the black revolt, and the youth revolt. How were some more conservative whites dealing with this challenge to their privilege? I don’t know what the modern equivalent would be… Muslims in America?
The anti-black prison-industrial complex?
I feel like this would only work if Dave Chappell were involved… I wonder if he’s free?
The modern equivalent would be a show about how some more conservative whites are dealing with the current challenges to their privilege.
In Canada we call it Question Period and most viewers are hoping for some serious plot twists soon because ratings are way down.
I think we’re still dealing with the same set of issues in that the sons and grandsons of Archie Bunker are still singing the same tune…”those were the days” of white, Christian, male, supremacy and privilege.
Looking back, American ’70’s television was really a great time in many respects. It was pay back time for the McCarthy era and society had made enough forward strides that the public in general was not threatened or intimidated by programs like “All in the Family” and its spin-offs. Even the Mary Tyler Moore Show introduced single working women to America even though they’ve been here since forever on their parents’ farms and in urban industrial areas and during shortages of labor during wars.
But that was then and this is now, the era of total corporate/political dumbing down, devide and conquer, hate filled, fearful, loveless America.
Although of course it was a fairly close copy of a British show.
Those were the days.
All In The Family gave us The Jeffersons and Maude and through Maude, Good Times. Those were all shows that had something to say.
Jean Stapleton was a national treasure.
No reflection on Jean Stapledon, but the next logical misstep in that train was Golden Girls, which we all could have done without.
“…Golden Girls, which we all could have done without…”
Um… really? No. Now, that spin off of Golden Girls, empty nest… meh. But Golden Girls was AWESOME SAUCE!!! 4 older women, living independently, dealing with the issues of the day… I think maybe the problem was that by the late 80s, that format was really waning and so it seemed dated in some ways. Especially given that Cosby and Roseanne were on around this time.
The Golden Girls take on marriage equality in 1991.
And I rest my case!
Your logic fails.
Golden Girls was not a spin-off of Maude.
But Starship Troopers was a spin-off of Golden Girls.
Not a spinoff, a descendent. And I stand by my revulsion at the show.
Seriously, what annoyed you so much – the fact it’s about women, older women, older women who sometimes enjoyed themselves with or without men, or the often times somewhat stilted comedy? What’s so terrible about it? Look deep into your self and tell us. We are all dying to know.
Have you ever actually sat down to watch a show? And you’ve yet to to describe why it’s a show that we shouldn’t like, but I have a damn good feeling it’s because OMG OLD LADIES!!!!!!
I found the comedy predictable, poorly written and somewhat boring. And yet it went on and on and on.
Picture it, a show that repeated the same formula endlessly, and found passionate defenders decades afterwards.
That said, I have no issue with other people liking it. I like lots of things that other people don’t like.
bah, disqus is being weird. duplicate deleted.
@rocketpj:disqus Oh, you really have no issue with other people liking it? Hmm.
“which we all could have done without.”
Who is this “we” you are referring to? I think you’re the only one with this opinion, man, sorry to say. :/
Also, predictable? It was perhaps one of the most ground-breaking shows ever, and touched on things most shows wouldn’t have even *dared* to touch on — today or now.
It was/is a sitcom. It followed a pretty standard sitcom formula, as nearly all sitcoms do. I think perhaps you just probably don’t like sitcoms. Which is fine, but…
Considering the Golden Girls continues to be one of the top-rated shows of all time including re-runs to this day, I have to say, I think you’re full of it. ;)
Please don’t feed the feminist trolls. They *can* and *will* take comments in which a woman or women are featured here personally, and then write long retorts for your failure to be supportive. Why BB? Because the community is mostly male and inevitably they will use a word or two that *could* be interpreted as misogynist. It won’t matter that you didn’t mean it that way; trolls are opportunists, that feed on inflammatory language — like the word ‘revulsion’. Clearly, they think, you have a problem with (older) women, and they have a problem with your alleged problem.
Although BB tends to be one of the most liberal-minded bunch of commenters in the blogosphere, it isn’t liberal enough for all the trolls determined to ‘get their mad on’, so tread lightly or expect to do a lot of deleting in your email.
Also, Checking In, Gloria, Archie Bunker’s Place and 704 Hauser
I was only counting the shows I think of as ‘ground-breaking’.
The episode where Sammy Davis visits, that alone justified the show.
the episode that got me as a child was when Archie hung the US flag over a swastika that was painted on his front door… and a boy scout came by to tell him that he’d hung it incorrectly.
I went to my room and cried when John Amos character in Good Times, James Evans Sr, died.
The video link, for those who can’t get it to play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8FTPv955I
Watch your head, Dingbat.
Those were the days. R.I.P, Jean.
You’re cruising for a bruising. GTFO.
I remember her in Cold Turkey. She has a bunch of funny bits throughout the movie. (Especially when she is freaking out while needing a cigarette.)
Here’s the answer to a question I had for years: “Gee our old LaSalle ran great.”
No mention of Till Death Us Do Part?
This scene from Archie Bunker’s place seems apt. R.I.P. Edith. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UKrAYD3zX8
Actually, I was surprised she was still alive until hearing of her recent death — I honestly thought she had died decades ago and that the death of her character Edith on the show was a case of real life writing the plot.
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