Edward Snowden is on the move: headed Moscow -> Havana -> [Quito|Caracas]

The Guardian and South China Morning Post report that NSA leaker Edward Snowden has left Hong Kong on an Aeroflot jet heading for Moscow, aiming for Havana, and then, eventually, either Quito, Ecuador, or Havana, Cuba.

The US had asked Hong Kong authorities to arrest Snowden on secret charges (a leak has it that he's been charged with Espionage, Theft, and Converting Government Property). HK says the request was malformed and could not be acted upon.

Why, you may ask yourself, is Snowden going to all these countries that have such rotten human rights records [ed: excepting Ecuador, which has been very good on asylum seekers lately]? My bet is on the fact that these countries are all somewhat hostile to US interest and unlikely to cooperate with extradition requests. However, it's possible that he just wanted the chance to pick out his own bunk at Gitmo ahead of time.

"As the HKSAR government has yet to have sufficient information to process the request for provisional warrant of arrest, there is no legal basis to restrict Mr Snowden from leaving Hong Kong.

"The HKSAR government has already informed the US government of Mr Snowden's departure.

"Meanwhile, the HKSAR government has formally written to the US government requesting clarification on earlier reports about the hacking of computer systems in Hong Kong by US government agencies. The HKSAR government will continue to follow up on the matter so as to protect the legal rights of the people of Hong Kong."

According to the South China Morning Post, Snowden boarded an Aeroflot flight to Moscow, although the newspaper said Russia was not his ultimate destination. It suggested he might go to Ecuador or Iceland – having cited the latter as a possible refuge in an interview with the Guardian.

However, reports from Moscow indicate that Havana would be his next port of call, with the ultimate destination either Caracas in Venezuela or Quito in Ecuador.

The South China Morning Post claimed he took off from the airport at 10.55am on flight SU213 on Sunday morning and was due to arrive at Moscow's Shermetyevo International Airport at 5.15pm [local times].

The Icelandic government has not yet made a statement about whether Snowden could get asylum in Iceland.

Edward Snowden leaves Hong Kong for Moscow [Tania Branigan and Miriam Elder/Guardian]

Update: He's in Moscow


  1. Sigh. 
    Running away from a country with a government that spies its citizens, to a govt that not only spies its citizens, but also plays their taped conversations on a public TV show.

    Really sad.

    1. Unless he goes to Iceland.  Iceland is one of the greatest countries on this planet.  I can think of a lot more unpleasant places to spend my exile than Iceland.

        1. Since it appears they’re mostly using it to help people avoid accidental incest, I’m not as troubled by it as I might otherwise be…

  2. HK says the request was malformed and could not be acted upon.

    I totally love this response!… not just because it conveys a lack of jumping to the US’s tunes, but also (here’s the nerd in me) because it makes HK sound like a webserver, i.e. I’m sure there’s a numeric error code servers sometimes hand to web clients signifying that the request was malformed and could not be acted upon.   

    1. HTTP 400:

      10.4.1 400 Bad Request

      The request could not be understood by the server due to malformed
      syntax. The client SHOULD NOT repeat the request without

  3. I for one appreciate what he did in revealing the information that has so far been released. It may very well help make the USA a better country in the long run (one can hope) but….

    WTF on releasing his own identity? That has done nothing but derail the story from one about the things the USA government has done wrong to one that is almost 100% about the leaker. What a way to totally botch the little bit of good his whistleblowing could have done.

    Anyone thinking of leaking such important data in the future: Please keep your mouth shut about your own identity so we can focus on the real story, the information you release.

    1. They knew who it was right away.  Dude disappeared from his job with no notice and left his house a month earlier.  The morning the first leak came out, they had people at his door.

      Even if it took a couple of weeks for the government to charge him, we still would have eventually heard his name in public.

      1. That is all possible, I had not heard he had people at his door, whichever door you may be referring to, the day the first release was public. He also could have taken steps to mitigate people identifying him.
        The longer he was not the focus of the story the better and he didn’t give it much time at all before he voluntarily stepped forward.
        I am not going to second guess his actions in this particular instance, I am really just thinking for the future we have an excellent object lesson here.

        1. His landlord said law enforcement showed up at the house in Hawaii the day of the leak looking for him, but he was already gone.  

          And yes, I pretty much agree.  As hopeful as I was the first day or two of of the leak that something might actually come of all this, it’s been one depressing foot shooting, message killing, water muddying incident after another since then.  

    2.  The US government would have revealed his identity the second they thought it would be advantageous to smear him anyway. There was no way he could have remained anonymous considering the spy network he just revealed. Even worse, without the publicity it would have been far easier for him to get disappeared or at least apprehended quietly.

    3. I agree, they would have found him right away anyway (and probably did before he outed himself).

      Guardian journalist publishes leaks, authorities find out where he has traveled to recently (this is pretty easy, right?), NSA looks for employees and contractors who are not at work and have traveled to HK from the US (again, passenger lists).

      1. The Guardian, however, as a British newspaper is not subject to US laws. So, the US would have no legal grounds for which to subpoena any of its reporters or any information on them. 

        1. They don’t need to subpoena anyone. The US has instant access to passenger information of EU airlines AND EU bank transactions. And that’s just what’s publicly known. Officially sanctioned by the European Commission. For realz.

    4. Nah I disagree.  If he’d tried to stay anonymous, the media would be casting about looking for the disgruntled lunatic, violent terrorist, islamic militant… etc… instead of average joe analyst speaking up for what he felt was right.  He chose a bolder path: to face down his oppressor PERSONALLY.

      1.  He chose a bolder path: to face down his oppressor PERSONALLY.

        From whatever nation he believes will provide him with permanent sanctuary.

    5. I’m not sure I agree. It’s not just that he revealed his identity, but that he talked to the press and gave us a look at Edward Snowden the person: frightened, missing the home and the girlfriend that he’ll never see again, but determined to do the right thing at any cost.

      People want heroes, they want symbols. There’s been an avalanche of leak-related news items from around the world these few weeks; I don’t think Snowden is detracting from that. What he is doing is giving us an image of the whistleblower as patriotic hero that will linger long after the story leaves the front pages, and will color public perception of future whistleblowers. He’s become a culture hero for civil liberty fans, one so far untarnished by the abrasive ego of Julian Assange or the “this is what leakers get” cautionary tale of Bradley Manning. I think that’s really important.

      1. I’m going to amen PhasmaFelis’s point a billion times. Snowden did what he had to do and here’s to wishing he lives a long, fulfilling life in Ecuador or wherever. Even, perhaps, the United States, after reforms sparked by his revelations have made the country over so that the whistleblowers are protected and the criminals are jailed. As opposed to the current situation where the fellow that exposed the CIA’s torture program, John Kiriakou, is in jail and NONE of the torturers or their bosses have faced any legal repercussions whatsoever. 

    6. Because this IT genius couldn’t figure out how to email a PowerPoint deck to 1000 people? 

    7. What Gideon Jones said – if he hadn’t released his identity, it would have been a few weeks of “who is mysterious leaker”, and then “a pointless profile of the newly identified leaker”.

      With his identity in public from the first, there’s probably more attention to what he revealed.

      1.  You must be kidding. We had a few days of no identity and the leaks themselves were most certainly not obscured by the “who’s the leaker” question. Now that his identity is out there, it is probably 10 to 1 stories about him v. stories about the leaked material itself.

        1. The government is going to spin it however they’re going to spin it. That’s not his fault. Put the blame where it belongs.

    8. Snowden did explain in the video why he went public. The agenda is creating public debate about the totalitarian levels of unconstitutional surveillance whose existence the gov regards as a secret. The biggest problem with the surveillance is that it’s secret. To secretly leak information about secret spying would be hypocritical, especially when the point is public debate. Why should he act like he is doing something wrong? As if The People did *not* have a right to know everything they do is being recorded?

      Why distract from the issue – the total surveillance by NSA & GCHQ -with a search for his identity and motivations. He, working with journalists in a highly coordinated series of publications – not really like anonymously dumping info on the internet – provided all the distracting info up front. And finally, I would imagine most of the ‘distractions’ of the personality of Ed Snowden are designed to distract from the issue: it is now possible to record the lives of everyone everywhere all the time, and our governments are doing it without having a proper discussion about it, mentioning they were doing it, or even bothering to mention that it was possible – or legal!

    9. Its funny since he revealed the “spying” on americans ppl claim he’s a hero, but then he does to china tells them we’ve been spying on them. His level of access was high he could know alot more than the prism stuff. Then he goes to russia, china’s best friend and one of the top 2 (china russia) who do the most espionage against america. Keep cheering him on as our saviour he could be doing such great harm because we’re distracted by the govt snooping on us. Anyone who was around during 9/11 and heard bush introduce the patriot act should’ve already known this. Guess we’ll just have to see how this plays out did he really do us a great service or did do us the greatest harm. 

  4. I wonder if it isn’t in everyone’s best interest if he does find safe haven somewhere the US can’t touch him. The US can avoid the dog & pony show of prosecuting someone many Americans view as a hero while Snowden himself can slowly fade into obscurity and live the remainder of his life knowing he acted on his conscience.

    1. It does avoid making him a martyr, true, which might be seen as good for the US government, but it also sort of makes him a bin Laden figure–the guy that, for all their sound and fury, the US can’t seem to actually catch. That’ll give confidence to other potential whistleblowers that they can do the right thing and wind up like Edward Snowden instead of like Bradley Manning. I think the gov’t’s top priority right now is to put the fear of God into would-be whistleblowers, and to do that they need to grab Snowden and crush him.

  5. “Meanwhile, the HKSAR government has formally written to the US government requesting clarification on earlier reports about the hacking of computer systems in Hong Kong by US government agencies. The HKSAR government will continue to follow up on the matter so as to protect the legal rights of the people of Hong Kong.”

    In other words “You guys hack our computers and spy on us. You want us to arrest who? For what?”

    1. Agreed. My first reaction after reading that was insane laughter. I guess the American government really DOES believe that they rule the world.

  6. Why is he going to all these countries that have rotten human rights records?

    The answer is so that he doesn’t get the Bradley Manning torture treatment and then put into the Florence ADX oubliette. As Hoggle said about oubliettes:

    “It’s a place you put people to forget about them!”

    If Snowden is caught, the remainder of his life will be misery and torture. And all of this will be under the direction of Obama.

    1. People are fooling themselves if they think his life is going to be better outside the US.  And that his flight hasn’t basically shit all over whatever good he did by releasing what he did.  

      1. Seriously? Living out his left outside the US in, say, Iceland or Venezuela, which are both very nice, is totally equivalent to getting tortured in jail for years on end? And NOT wanting to get tortured in jail for years on end… somehow invalidates the things he’s said?


        1. It doesn’t invalidate what he’s said, but it certainly does change how the info is perceived and treated.  And not in a good way.

          I also don’t think he’s going to end up peacefully chilling out for the rest of his days in Venezuela, much less Iceland, even if he does manage to make it there in the short term.

          1. Wherever he does end up, it’ll just be a matter of time before he has an “accident” and anyone who thinks differently is sadly mistaken. Regardless of whether or not he still has any info to disseminate at that point won’t matter a bit. If for no other reason than he made the government look more like fools than normal, he’ll be on a hit list and that’ll be it.

            Just my cynical opinion of course. For all I know, he might just end up spending the rest of his life surrounded by strippers who give him free booze and blow but I doubt it.

          2. I think he’d be more likely to get killed if they saw him as an ongoing threat, but with Snowden the damage is done, pretty much–he’s not really in a position to do further damage (he can keep releasing more info from what he has, but he’s probably already given copies to others like Greenwald). Trying to kill him wouldn’t really make sense in Machiavellian terms, especially since there’s a risk of terrible P.R. if the plan to make it look like an “accident” doesn’t work out perfectly.

          3. You seem to have a lot of rules for how other people should play their part in this political struggle. I believe in escaping to fight another day. If you think that going to jail for your beliefs is the way to go, please lead by example.

          4. They’re not ‘my rules’, they’re just how things work.  I’m not engaged in civil disobedience and comparing myself to Ellsberg and MLK, he is.  That’s the route he’s chosen to go, and I think it’s perfectly appropriate to point out that he is undermining his own efforts.

            I believe this needs a political solution, specifically the repeal of the Patriot Act and it’s various expansions.  That takes congressional action.  

            I’ve worked twice since it’s passage for a senator against it, once to elect him, another time to re-elect him.  Next year I hope to do the same for a candidate for my state’s other senate seat.

            If I were fucking that effort up, please feel free to mention it.

          5. They’re not ‘my rules’, they’re just how things work.

            That’s delusional.

            I’m not engaged in civil disobedience

            That’s quite obvious. And yet, you still feel like you get to write the rule book for those who are.

          6. That’s quite obvious. And yet, you still feel like you get to write the rule book for those who are.

            It’s not really a ‘rulebook,’ but certain things… work, and don’t work.  I don’t think there’s anything inappropriate about pointing out that something isn’t working. 

            Snowden has made comparisons between his actions and those of Ellsberg.  Ellsberg studied MLK though in deciding how to handle the info he was leaking.  He saw himself as a part of that same tradition, and he handled his civil disobedience in the same way.  

            It worked the same for Ellsberg as for MLK, and proved effective.  I don’t think Snowden’s efforts will.

        2. Venezuela is not “very nice”. Not even close to Iceland. Sure, tropical weather, lots of crime, violent, armed militia, scarcity of staples and a big brother-style (poster with mustache and all!) govt.

          1. Did we not get those stories about Venezuela from the same media that suggested Snowden was the issue, and not the NSA and GCHQ’s totalitarian recording of everybody? Venezuela is an enemy of the US. Most countries get very different news about Venezuela, that depicts a country that looks nothing like the one in the official US version. 

          2. I am from Venezuela. I get the news from the source. 

            And Venezuela is not an enemy of the US. The US gets a lot of oil from Venezuela, we buy a lot of things, including gasoline, from the US. Chevron Texaco just gave us a 2 bn dollar loan, and Elías Jaua, our Foreign Affairs Minister was mesmerized by the irresistible charm and charismatic personality of John Kerry.



            Don’t let all the posturing and rhetoric blind you. Venezuela is still controlled by oligarchs. The only thing that changed is that oligarchs have now deep pockets because of oil prices, so they can throw a lot of money around.

          3. Sorry I can only reply to myself: I know about the traditional oligarchy, which owns the media, which was involved in the 2002 coup attempt with US-backing. If you call the Chavistas the “oligarchs,” you give away the game :-( Your comments and references suggest we should expect a new US-backed oligarchy in the country soon. BTW, Human Rights Watch was criticised by over 100 academic experts from across the world over the bogus report on Venezuela.  http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4051
            But keep up the info war and you will win. The peasants don’t even have internet access. Ha! Long live the 1% ;-)

          4. This is at akimoe, because the nesting rules mean I can’t reply directly.

            The idea that Human Rights Watch, an organization that got its start as Helsinki Watch as a Cold War propaganda weapon and has long been staffed by revolving door members of the US government is “equally critical of the U.S.” is just laughable on its face. They have, indeed, criticized the U.S. government, but only in the most egregious of circumstances and with the most mealy-mouthed of equivocations.

          5. LOL

            Florida has power 24 hours a day and Internet is faster. Also, way lower murder rate.

            However, Weston, FL, is colonized by Venezuelans, people say it’s like home, but functional. But, knowing the kind of people I will find if I go there, it’s not on my vacation plans, ever.

      2. High value spies end up in ADX Florence. Please feel free to name any place in the world that Snowden could go (voluntarily) that would be worse than that experience. ADX Florence is a torture-prison. The UN said this. Everybody knows this. I have no doubt whatsoever that his life outside the US will be better than the torture he will endure in the US.

        1. High value spies end up in ADX Florence.

          Not to put too fine a point on this, but Snowden wasn’t a “high value spy” until he fled and started leaking info on US spying on foreign governments to save his ass.  Before that he was just a whistleblower.  

          Dude could be giving TV interviews like several other NSA whistleblowers have been all week if he had wanted to.

          1. How does this change the fact that he will be tortured and abused if he ever returns to the US?

            It seems to me that a country that tortures people deserves to have its foreign intelligence leaked.

          2. It doesn’t.  

            I don’t think he should have left in the first place.  And now that he has, he’s fucked whether he returns willingly or not, while also having hurt the cause he set out to advance.

          3. @gideonjones:disqus : It doesn’t? Are you kidding me? Did you miss the part where he will be tortured and psychologically abused if he returns? How do you so cavalierly dismiss that?

    2. Apropos of not much in particular, I was reading the wikipedia entry on ADX Florence and came across this interesting little fact: The shoe bomber “pleaded guilty in 2002 to attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction and attempted murder in connection with his 2001 attempt to detonate explosive devices hidden in his shoes on a plane traveling from Paris to Miami” – this is the moron that was a failure from the start but seriously now, weapons of mass destruction? His SHOES? I mean, I gots me some seriously stinky feet but I don’t think I’d go THAT far.

      1. They charged the Boston bombing guy with the same thing. Turns out that “weapon of mass destruction” in US law pretty much means “weapon that’s not a gun or knife”.

    3. They’ve started giving out the Nobel Peace Prize as frivolously as they give out Grammy’s

      1. Looking forward to Biebz trying to get his new monkey past Norwegian border control.

  7. The Moscow-Havana flight reportedly crosses US airspace. Given how the US scrambled fighters to intercept a jet carrying Yusuf “Cat Stevens” Islam a few years ago, the odds of them letting it pass without taking him off are zero. As such, either Snowden is an idiot or this is a feint.

    How much do you want to bet that this seat on the flight will be either empty or occupied by a dummy in a Guy Fawkes mask with a mocking note attached to its chest?

    1. Well… just avoid Florida and fly south, then west again, though not too close to Puerto Rico?

      There are lots of reasons why airplanes don’t take the shortest route every day. I don’t see why that would be unfeasible in this case.

      1. In fact, right now there is a tourist plane en route from Europe to Varadero, Cuba that turned south before reaching Florida, apparently to avoid US airspace.

        Some airlines probably think that’s easier. No risk of being told to turn around mid-flight because of bullshit reasons. Sometimes you don’t know in advance if the US decides that a passenger isn’t welcome in its airspace.

        1. The flight path map for Pearson (Toronto) shows a few different flights that go to Cuba. All of them cross US airspace at some point. Mostly over the northeastern US, but the flight to Havana is over US airspace for most of the flight. Of course, avoiding US airspace entirely from Toronto would be a lot more inconvenient than avoiding it from Europe.

          1. Now I’m no expert but it has been my experience that planes will take a detour if there is a reason for it and if it doesn’t cost them too much.

            For example, airplanes tend to avoid the Himalayas, prefer to fly over land instead of water (both for safety reasons I guess?) and EVERYBODY avoids North Korea :)

            As for avoiding the US when flying from Canada to the Americas… not terribly cost-effective I’d guess.

  8. An NSA official was just interviewed on the BBC and said “we have to trust the people who work for us” (!!!) BUT at the same time we treat our entire nation like possible suspects. CLASSIC.

  9. I live in Quito, Ecuador and I’m offended by your claim that here we have “such a rotten human rights records”.

    If you would’ve done a bit more research than reading a headline, you would’ve know that, the Ecuadorian goverment has given assylum to another well known character, Julian Assange, and since Wikileaks is helping Mr. Snowden, it’s only logical for them to advice him to go to a country that will not comply with such request.

    1.  Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that Quito was part of the “rotten human rights record” club – I meant China, Russia, Cuba, and, to a lesser extent, Venezuela.

      1. Thank you for clearing that out, I cannot speak for the rest of the countrys, but I can see the implications that the country that gives assylum, would face with the US.

        However, news sources from my country are reporting that the Ecuadorian ambassador’s official vehicle was at Russia’s airport. It has’nt been an official statement on whether Mr. Snowden had received an political persecution status. At least not yet…

  10. He’s a dirty traitor. There’s nothing else to it. When you run to China and Russia after revealing classified information  you are undoubtedly a traitor. Who knows what else he’s told Chinese and Russian officials. And i’m sure he’s relishing in the great human rights records of China, Russia, Cuba and or Venezuela. This is such bullshit. 
    If you are a leaker and you believe in what you are doing you stay in the country  to face what you’ve done. He’s broken numerous laws, his employment contract, and the trust of the country that gave him the secrets to hide. Him Assange and Manning are reckless self aggrandizing idiots that have endangered US national security and have committed espionage or treason against the United States (Manning is still the worst. His dumps of data military operations have directly lead to the deaths of US allies). 

    1.  And you’re a coward, a traitor to our country and everything it stands for, and actively enable the enemies that would see our country destroyed. Perhaps he would have been willing to stay in the US if the US had remained a nation of laws – but when you’ll end up tortured and imprisoned for years before ever being found guilty of anything, why in the hell would you stay?

    2. The people who have turned the USA into a surveillance state (formerly known as the land of liberty) are the only traitors that matter. And the oh-no-terrorists-piss-my-pants people who try to explain it all away are pathetic and complicit.

    3. Just for the record, how do you feel about people like Alexander Litvinenko? Was he a dirty traitor too? How about Anatoliy Golitsyn?

      Does your righteous anger only apply to people who call the government of the USA on their shit, or everyone?

    4. He’s a dirty traitor.

      Good. When your country goes as rotten as the US has, it’s everyone’s responsibility to acknowledge their loyalty to the human race and turn against their own government.

  11. I was sympathetic to Snowden until this.  Someone here made the comment that Hong Kong was friendlier to privacy than the U.S. That was LOL funny.  Going to and with his laptops in tow no doubt to our enemies IS treason regardless of the triggering.

    Ironically… the NSA spent all its time spying on me while Snowden was giving them the reach around.  Kudos all around. 

    Oh… and to you Obama voters.  HA-HA.  Thanks for taking what you (and many of us) hated about the Bushies and quadrupling down on that. Well-played.

  12. So, I got heat for saying if he stayed in China that he might have been a spy.  I said, then, if he went to Ecudor like Assange or Sweeden or the like, that I’d retract my statements and admit I was wrong about his motives.  

    His motives are exactly what you’ve all been saying they are.  I’m just generally cynical nowadays because, well, it’s a cynical world.  So this is me saying, yep, you guys are right, I was wrong, and Snowden seems to be the real deal.   That’s very refreshing, actually.

    1. I’ts understandable for trying to find alternitive and selfish motives in people apparently doing anything at all for public interest. When nobody does anything for selfless reasons you try figuring what could be motivating them.

      1. I’m also biased by my wants and passions.  I’m a huge fan of John Le Carre and other novels written by real spies.   Snowden’s actions mirror that of what a real spy inserted by the chinese would have taken, right up to going to China.   And that was because I have more experience reading about and following espionage cases than I do of whistleblower cases.     This type of action is how we’ve inserted spies into other countries.  It’s how the Brits turned Litvenenko (as mentioned above) and how the Israeli’s turned Pollard.    

        Not making excuses, clearly I was wrong about Snowden.  Just that was my line of thought that lead me to this incorrect reasoning.

        1. Well to be fair he really could’ve been a chineese spy and used the leak as a shitstorm to cover with or try getting goodwill on his side.

  13. I don’t see why people feel the need to read any specific significance into Snowden’s whereabouts, or how one could imaginably make some kind of judgement about him on the basis of his travels. This is what the NSA/GCHQ do to their respective citizens: you went here, you met someone there, you are suspect. Ironically he is being judged by his travels because he revealed *you* were being judged by your travels. 

    Perhaps HK asked him to leave? Perhaps he had nowhere to go. Maybe he is a hot potato who no one wants, but some countries will do more than others, and he is involved in complex negotiations to avoid the enhanced interrogation chamber. Now – how will we judge him? Thumbs up? Torture? Like what he did, hate his haircut? Wish he’d shave instead of revealing there is no such thing as anonymity anymore. Do we wish he would stop parading himself before the media like an egotistical slut? Why didn’t he stay anonymous? Are we paying attention? Really? (Sorry, now I’m actually annoying myself.)

  14. Cory, i agree with everything you have to say when you write about the intersection of computers and the real world, you really get it and you also have a gift in being able to explain it really well. Love your work!

    But if i can just pull age rank here for a second – i was born the day before you (true story) so listen up when your elders are speaking – i gotta say that alarm bells went off in my head when i saw you had used the phrase “human rights records” in the same sentence as Cuba. Really? What exactly are the Cubans doing that is worse than what is occurring in Guantanamo Bay right now?

    The Guardian reports that “increasingly brutal tactics are being used in an attempt to break the hunger strike by detainees at Guantánamo Bay … the US authorities are systematically making the regime more hardline to try to defuse the strike, which now involves almost two-thirds of the detainees. Techniques include making cells “freezing cold” to accentuate the discomfort of those on hunger strike and the introduction of “metal-tipped” feeding tubes, which Aamer said were forced into inmates’ stomachs twice a day and caused detainees to vomit over themselves.”

    I visited Cuba in 2010 so i could finally see for myself what i have been defending for nearly 15 years and i wasn’t disappointed. Cuba isn’t a country where the population live in fear of their government. It’s just not. Here’s a fun fact: Which country did Nelson Mandela visit first as President of South Africa? Your choice of country to visit first is a big deal for a Head of State, so where did he go? Cuba, of course! I’ll leave it to you to find out why, can’t give you everything on a platter. Anyway, don’t take my word for it, do some research :P

    My first thought when i heard that Snowden had gone to Hong Kong was that he should have gone to Cuba or (thinking of Assange) Ecuador instead. MUCH safer. And low and behold …

    Cory, when you next visit Sydney, Australia, we should catch up for a chat. I’ve been reading your non-fiction for years but it was only when i started your fiction and also saw your birth date that it struck me. I think i am the closest to your doppelgänger that you’ve going to find :D

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