Feds subject drug suspect to vaginal/anal probe, X-ray, CT Scan, without a warrant -- find nothing


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  1. Space_Monkey

    So I'm pretty sure nothing worse than a brief payed vacation will happen to the cops, but all the medical personnel involved should lose their licenses to practice for not even insuring that is was legal before doing that to someone who didn't consent.

  2. zachstronaut

    The solution to all of these authoritarian problems is so obvious: criminal charges against the perpetrators AND the people giving the orders. Instead we get court cases against public institutions, they settle out of court, and when they pay a fine or settlement it is with the people's own money. It is pretty clear that those fines and settlements are not a deterrent against future bad behavior.

    Now, you must understand that criminal charges will and must go through trial. This is critical. Sometimes what appears to be unconscionable behavior to us, the outside viewer, will turn out to have been reasonable under the scrutiny of an informed jury. Criminal charges do not mean just punishing cops or agents of the government at random. Criminal charges can only mean punishing criminals. The innocent will be found innocent.

    (Yes, I realize this ignores the many flaws of the criminal justice system... but if it is good enough for you, it is good enough for a cop or politician. Right?)

    Not having the trial, and instead having settlements, has a compounding negative impact because it is both not a deterrent and also eliminates the critical thinking. Without trials, we do not have judges and juries thinking deeply about these problems and coming to conclusions and judgements that can further be studied and understood. Instead we just get meaningless arguments between uninformed zealots.

    edit: typo fixed

  3. LyleHopwood

    I second the general outrage, but there's another thing about this, and the similar case with the man, that really bugs me. It's that the stakes as so incredibly low. Who gives a flying damn about someone who may or may not have drugs stuffed into their orifices? Unless they have the Tardis in there, it's only going to be a small amount. Why do the police seem so driven to humiliate and violate someone on the off chance they have a personal supply of drugs? It's just not proportionate.

    (Which leads me to believe they do it out of pure sadism rather than any sense of law enforcement at all.)

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