Podcast episode about creativity, paradox, and what if questions

Last month I attended a lecture by David Ben, and became an instant fan. He's a fascinating Toronto-based magician and the co-founder of Magicana, a "not-for-profit organization dedicated to exploration and advancement of magic as a performing art." In this episode of the Face2Face podcast, Ben talks about his lifelong obsession with magic, creativity, paradox, and what if questions.