Author Aron Ra, a regional director of American Atheists, appeared on the Fallen Nation podcast to talk about his new book, We are All Apes. The host, who doesn't seem to have any understanding of the theory of evolution, asked Ra, "Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?" Ra countered by asking, an analogous question: "Have I ever seen a dog turn into a dachshund?" Unfortunately, the Fallen Nation host doesn't seem to understand analogy, either.
The conversation… devolved from there.
Aaron Ra
Have I ever seen a car turn into a Corvette?Fallen Nation
Can you hear me?Aaron Ra
Yeah. Have I ever seen a shark turn into a fish?Fallen Nation
I didn't ask about any of those things. I asked when have you ever seen an ape turned into a human being?Aaron Ra
I'm trying to illustrate the fallacy of your question.Fallen Nation
How's that a fallacy? You wrote that we're all apes.Aaron Ra
And we are.(speakers talk over each other)
Fallen Nation
Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?Aaron Ra
Once again, humans are apes in the same way that a duck is a bird. So if you ask me if I've ever seen a bird, turn into a duck, that's kind of a stupid question to ask.Fallen Nation
Because I didn't ask that. Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?Aaron Ra
That is a nonsense question.Fallen Nation
Why?Aaron Ra
Because it's like asking for a place halfway between Los Angeles and California.Fallen Nation
No, it's not. I didn't ask about that.
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