EFF sues to overturn telcom immunity

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11 Responses to “EFF sues to overturn telcom immunity”

  1. Xenu says:

    Nice. This should go down well.

  2. Garak says:

    “If the president asked you to shoot someone, would Congress let you off the hook, too?”

    Of course, they do it all the time. The people doing the shooting are called soldiers.

  3. aceofspades says:

    “If the president asked you to shoot someone, would Congress let you off the hook, too?”

    @1 I thought they were referring to cheney :P

    They let him off the hook didn’t they?

  4. stupidnickname says:

    I just joined EFF because of this story. I’ve been meaning to do it for a while, but this served as a timely reminder.

    @1. I agree, that quote isn’t quite as instructive as the author might have hoped, since government-authorized force is in evidence since the beginnings of civilization. Perhaps we could rewrite?

    “If the president told your neighbor to shoot your daughter and told the police and the courts not to interfere, would you want Congress to protect your neighbor from the law?”

    The intent of “neighbor” and “your daughter” is to identify these actors as being not agents of the state, but private citizens, theoretically equal before the law. In theory at least, telecom companies should have also been private citizens, bound by law to respect the rights of other citizens, and not retroactive agents of the state.

  5. urshrew says:

    What is the background of the EFF? I do not think I have ever heard of them before today.

  6. Cool Products says:

    Government agencies bending the law in order to get what they want. Unheard of…

  7. GaryInMiami says:

    I see the Cult of Cory is alive and well today!

    >>If the president asked you to shoot someone, would Congress let you off the hook, too?

    Really bad analogy, Cory. How can anyone in their right mind compare killing someone with wiretapping someone?

    >>Remember when the Electronic Frontier Foundation discovered that the NSA had been wiretapping the entire Internet, illegally

    This is a bit of an exaggeration. The internet is a public place. How can it be illegal to keep an eye on something that’s in plain sight?

    Normally I’m with you on this stuff, but this time you are way off-base.

    • Antinous says:

      How can anyone in their right mind compare killing someone with wiretapping someone?

      If you look at the last eight years, the Bush administration has been bundling its political malware. Is it really productive to separate the Iraq war from the war on constitutional rights? Don’t they all stem from the same sense of imperial entitlement?

  8. aluxeterna says:

    I’ve long been meaning to do so, but I also finally went ahead and joined the EFF after reading this story.

    A++ WOULD DO BUSINESS AGAIN

  9. Mantari says:

    Go EFF. It is important that these anti-American activities be pursued.

  10. DavidPFarrell says:

    I made my donation as soon as I saw this story in my RSS reader.

    Same as with the Bush/Cheney/NSA suit the EFF started last month.

    Thank you EFF for taking on these fights!

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