Fate of Spain's Internet/copyright law depends on El Pais releasing relevant Wikileaks cables NOW

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12 Responses to “Fate of Spain's Internet/copyright law depends on El Pais releasing relevant Wikileaks cables NOW”

  1. Marmara says:

    If leaked cables are password protected,

    Could The Guardian access those 115 “KIPR Madrid embassy” cables and make them available to the world, PLEASE?

    Eternally grateful!

  2. lordvetinari2 says:

    Well, that’s what you get when the paper responsible of releasing the cables is in bed with the government.

  3. Anonymous says:

    I wouldn’t count on El País doing that. They are the PR operation of the most powerful interest group in Spain. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if PRISA (huge publishing group and owner of El País) had been somehow involved in the writing of the new law.

    Let’s hope someone else lets us have the information.

  4. Anonymous says:

    To lordvetinari2 :

    Sadly, in Spain, “El Pais” is the only newspaper that is covering the wikileaks cablegate with a minimum of deepness. All the others just publish random notes here and there.

    Although El Pais has always been considered a leftwing newspaper and close to PSOE (one of the two biggest political parties in Spain), this deep coverage of the cablegate issue clearly indicates that, if they sleep in the same bed, they don’t do it always.

    As a Spanish citizen, I’m really astonished because those cables are providing very important information for us. Specially regarding the corruption of the state-in-chief attorney (Mr. Conde-Pumpido), that was collaborating with USA embassador to conceal the crime of Jose Couso’s in Baghdad. He literally said to the USA Embassador in Madrid : “We’re doing our best to not keep on investigating this case”.

  5. toyg says:

    I think the worst Wikileaks mistake was to trust these high-profile, established newspapers. Yes, they gave respectability to the material and ensured mainstream impact, but they also have very different objectives from WL. We had seen it with the NYT behaviour during the War Logs publication, and we’ve seen it again with the Guardian fessing up to the NYT (-> the US government) and now El Pais being a bunch of pricks.

    Maybe, next time, WL should involve smaller players with an appetite for fights (and publicity).

  6. Anonymous says:

    So… The newspaper is charged with being the only savior of a functional internet? The newspapers are given the option of going back to a pre-functioning-internet era? Why on EARTH would they release the cables?

    In the words of George Carlin: “They don’t give a shit about you.”

  7. bjacques says:

    But you can download the torrent now, right?

    • toyg says:

      AFAIK you can’t. Password to the “insurance” file has not been released, probably because the files in there are not redacted.

  8. Anonymous says:

    @bjacques: No, right now only 291 out of the 250000+ documents have been released. Check http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Posting from Spain, I think lorvetinari2 just nailed it, thats the actual problem, if someone is going to be affected with these new copyrights laws, they are El Pais and friends, who rules all publishing and editing in Spain.
    The SGAE (General Spanish Authors Society) has been charging us this “Digital Canon” when buying CDs, Flash drives, cell phones, and all kind of devices that could store information, presuming when you buy one of those that you’re going to use them for some evil piracy purpose. They’ve been sneaking in weddings and charging bride and groom because orchestra was playing some 40-years-old copyrighted songs, and all kind of frightening stories like that.
    Well, all this folks are close friends, so, I think we Spanish are screwed again, because, for what I know, the vote is to avoid the Digital Canon, to fit our laws to the European ones, which find this Spanish laws outrageous (as all we street-Spanish people do since it become active)
    Sorry for the brick, I just wanted to show a little of how copyrights laws works here.

  10. bjacques says:

    Maybe someone at El Pais needs to leak it back to Wikileaks….

  11. Anonymous says:

    OK, I am the guy who just sent this anon message talking about the digital canon. I just read that the issue is about the almighty-web-controling-pretending. Anyway, they´re the same SGAE guys who perpetrates both, so, I hope my previous post just works to show you a liitle more of what these people are up to

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