DHS erroneously seizes 84,000 domains, falsely accuses them of trafficking in child porn

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29 Responses to “DHS erroneously seizes 84,000 domains, falsely accuses them of trafficking in child porn”

  1. Anonymous says:

    Disbarring the judge who signed this should be the first priority. If he can never work again, that will cause a chilling effect next time a judge is asked to sign an order such as this. After that, class action against the government or prosecuting them for libel should be next. Please, if there are lawyers or organizations that focus on this type of thing, here’s your chance to beat up the ICE and get a nice paycheck at the same time!!!

  2. tim says:

    In before someone says the terrorists won. They didn’t. The corporatists did.

    The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

  3. Anonymous says:

    the key to this is “without due process” our government is out of control… time to police the police!!!!

  4. Avram / Moderator says:

    I’m thinking a false accusation of trafficking in kiddie porn is pretty clear grounds for a libel or defamation lawsuit, in addition to any unlawful seizure issues.

  5. urbanspaceman says:

    I wonder why the DHS is tasked with policing the trafficking of child pornography and not say, the FBI? Could it be because the FBI has to operate under the rules of due process?

  6. Anonymous says:

    still feel like you live in the land of the free? how much of your freedom will you give up for the illusion of safety?

  7. BastardNamban says:

    WHAT THE HELL is the Department of Homeland Security doing going after child porn?

    Let’s get obvious out of the way- everyone hates child porn, except those who go after it. It’s universally reviled.

    But the fucking DHS has NO LEGAL BEARING TO INVESTIGATE IT!

    THIS! This is what civil liberties advocates scream about at the top of our lungs- ends do not justify the means, especially when the ends are utter failure! It’s not the child porn I’m worried about out there- it’s my government overstepping their bounds, EXACTLY LIKE THIS, to go after things everyone hates, with no legal backing- so they keep creeping very quickly towards investigating you or anyone en masse for whatever the fuck they feel like!

    It is not lunacy to scream slippery slope and 1984 here. This is exactly how those things work!

    Goddamnit, someone stop these assholes, and throw them in jail already- I’m sick of this shit, it happens every day now. The USA just keeps raping the legal system and overstepping their authority to spy on the populace.

  8. Cowicide says:

    without substantial due process.

    Due process?! That’ sympathizing with terrorists! This is the USA, only radicals still believe in due process.

    America… FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU………

    In before someone says the terrorists won. They didn’t. The corporatists did. There’s tremendous money in security theatre folks. And you’re paying for that instead of health care for our citizenry. Americans are embarrassing.

    bobthecitizen said:

    Welcome to Egypt folks.

    Egyptians have got us beat. At least the citizens there still fight for their freedom. The American public is sedated as long as Cheetos and American Idol are in good supply. Cut that off, and some might even fart and nap in protest.

  9. bobthecitizen says:

    I would tend to suspect DHS and more so, TSA, of being the sort to store pictures of naked children.

    CHild pornogrophy is a nasty, bad, thing. But what about “innocent until proven guilty”? Is this not punishment prior to trial?

    Welcome to Egypt folks.

    • CastanhasDoPara says:

      Welcome to Egypt… a couple of weeks ago. They actual did something about oppressive government BS.

      If only people in the US had the balls to put down the big-gulp and playstation for one damn minute and actually DO something about this quickly blooming police-state.

      Also, yes these people should sue the pants off of the libelous jerk-wads. Too bad the damage is done and it would take years for this sort of case to wind its way through the courts.

  10. fnc says:

    I predict some lawyers are going to get very rich due to this.

  11. johnofjack says:

    ICE is just bad news, period. They take somebody as an illegal immigrant, that person just disappears–incommunicado, no counsel, nothing which might be mistaken for due process–and they know it’s “disappearing” people and use that language on purpose, apparently ignorant of Argentinian history. (Or maybe not, maybe it takes the wrinkles out of their pants that they have such uncontested unaccountable power.)

    • Ipo says:

      I have been disappeared by ICE. It is even less fun than you think. Did you know they transport prisoners in little metal boxes?

  12. jessemoya says:

    Are you serious? Public accusations of trafficking in child pornography without any investigation or evidence? I’d want someone’s job for that. Unless I was one of DOZENS OF THOUSANDS of affected websites, in which case I’d want someone’s job, their supervisor’s job, and plenty of damages.

  13. GeekMan says:

    I hate to advocate such things, but I think a class-action lawsuit is in order to remind certain persons at the DHS to use their powers a little more carefully.

    • zyodei says:

      Except that it’s the US government that did this – so the people who did it would not pay the money, but merely the taxpayers. Those responsible will probably be promoted.

      That’s what happens when, for instance, a cop shoots some innocent person – they sue, the court awards a judgment and, tralala, the taxpayers pay out millions of dollars.

      • BBNinja says:

        That means the “lucky winners” have a chance to get their tax money back and actually put it to good use! :P

        Since DHS is branching out obviously then I think 419 scammers and those people who phish idiot’s email so they can then send out notices to all their facebook friend’s that they can win a free laptop should be hunted down and punished.

        I’m sure DHS won’t have any problem getting their powers extended to cover Nigeria.

  14. dainel says:

    Wasn’t there something about taking away control of the Internet (at least the domain names part) away from the US govt and putting it under the UN?

    Do all of us, living out of the US, get to live under US laws, and yet do not get representatives to vote on those laws? What happened to democracy?

    • Unfair Robot says:

      > What happened to democracy?

      I was going to respond wittily with: “You can read all about it at democracy.gov”.

      Then I wondered whether that domain actually did exist, so I checked: it does, and it redirects to america.gov.

      In the context of this story: WIN.

  15. Anonymous says:

    more poignantly sad than win, imo.

  16. howaboutthisdangit says:

    Wait, if the Feds are going after child porn, aren’t they neglecting their duties as thugs for the MPAA and RIAA? Their overlords will not be pleased.

    I got a chuckle the other day when I heard that Secretary of State Clinton is pressing other nations to keep the Internet free and open.

    Welcome to the “Land of the Free.” (nudge nudge, wink wink)

  17. Anonymous says:

    What happened to democracy?
    It was sold at the highest price.

  18. DieFem says:

    First shoot, then ask. It´s a nice policy for the “Land Of the Free” as howaboutthisdangit mentioned.

  19. Anonymous says:

    The Government is not immune to law suits. I urge any owner wrongly accused of having a smut-page to seek the services of a good civil rights lawyer with experience in the Federal Court.

  20. lasttide says:

    This is just begging for a lawsuit. It’s a clear cut 4th Ammendment violation.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Welcome to china.

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