STOP SOPA, SAVE THE INTERNET

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  1. Guest says:

    So, this should only impact about 99% of the US-internet? Hmmm.

    • SoItBegins says:

      That’s quite a lot— remember that quite a number of servers are hosted in the US.

      • Also, remember that — especially in the matter of copyright — the US legislature thinks its laws apply to the whole world, and that the US government is active in trying to persuade other countries on this.

        You know what we need, folks?  A whole other internet.  That we can force these idiots to move to.

  2. Teller says:

    Here’s the congressional money trail from SOPA supporters in entertainment and publishing.
    How will they vote?

    Top recipients for ALL supporting interest groups

    Name
    Amount Received

    Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV]
    $2,335,183

    Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY]
    $2,016,955

    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY]
    $1,650,251

    Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA]
    $1,163,223

    Sen. Michael Bennet [D, CO]
    $767,772

    Sen. Patrick Leahy [D, VT]
    $737,110

    Sen. Robert Portman [R, OH]
    $714,176

    Sen. Mark Kirk [R, IL]
    $471,721

    Sen. Ron Wyden [D, OR]
    $423,313

    Sen. Patty Murray [D, WA]
    $413,000

    Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28]
    $454,598

    Rep. Bruce Braley [D, IA-1]
    $360,989

    Rep. Michael Capuano [D, MA-8]
    $320,580

    Rep. Patrick Meehan [R, PA-7]
    $249,800

    Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13]
    $243,319

    Rep. Eric Cantor [R, VA-7]
    $239,300

    Rep. John Barrow [D, GA-12]
    $218,080

    Rep. Gary Peters [D, MI-9]
    $216,748

    Rep. Nancy Pelosi [D, CA-8]
    $213,550

    Rep. Carolyn Maloney [D, NY-14]
    $209,610

    • Philip Horger says:

      Tallies:

      Democrat – 16
      Republican – 4

      NY – 3
      CA – 3
      PA – 2
      NV – 1
      CO – 1
      VT – 1
      OH – 1
      IL – 1
      OR – 1
      WA – 1
      IA – 1
      MA – 1
      VA – 1
      GA – 1
      MI – 1

    • Ryan Greaves says:

      Teller, I’d like to read more… do you have a source you could link me to that reports those Senators and how much money they have received?

  3. Listener43 says:

    Thanks for helping us to get out the word.

  4. stevepalmateer says:

    As a Canadian citizen, what tangible measures can I take to fight SOPA?

  5. Teller says:

    Sorry about lame-ass spacing. Remove if you like.

    • daneyul says:

      It’s not the spacing that’s lame-ass. It’s our bought-and-sold congress.

      Jesus that list is incredibly depressing.

      • Byrne M. Owens says:

        And what do they need all that money for?  Why to spend on MEDIA for their next campaign!  TV time is the Crack Cocaine of American Politics.  Until we get off of it (and the internet offers the best way - obviously a threat to Big Media), this will only get worse.

      • Anthony says:

        This is one of the many reasons why I’m a republican.

        I’m curious though what Charles Schumer is doing on that list.  He was very vocal when Road Runner wanted to pilot a broadband cap in Rochester.  Topped with the fact Rochester is a very techy city it effectively killed Road Runner’s plans to cap not only here, but nation wide.Apparently he doesn’t realize this is very much in the same ballpark?

  6. bbguy1984 says:

    Taken right from Mark Kirk’s website.

    “Today, as people continue to live in fear of persecution under dictatorship, American values of liberty, freedom and human dignity bring hope to millions. As a Senator, I will do my part to continue the great American tradition of standing up for human rights.”

    Really… so copywrite law trumps human rights? Never voting for this guy again if he votes for it.

  7. Martin Cosette says:

    It would be fabulous to have a credit card provider who is not American. It would allow websites like Wikileaks and others to keep being able to receive donations without the shadows of the fascist American government.

    If this law passes, I can only assume (and hope) the next youtube, google etc of this world will take foot from outside of the USA. This nonsense got to stop!

  8. Guest says:

    Corporations are powerful in the USA. Are Apple, Google, Facebook and all the rest of them fighting this bill? Hope so.

  9. drukqs says:

    Strange, I read the headline as “STOP SOCA. SAVE THE INTERNET.” and was immediately intrigued.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdVvmKy7qNU

    • Daniel says:

      It doesn’t look like it, that article is talking explicitly about FCC regulations, FCC is part of the executive branch and can regulate communication technologies without having laws passed.  SOPA is a law proposed in Congress.  SOPA is rather more serious for that reason.

  10. dizizcamron says:

    i actually emailed my senators and congressmen about this a while back and got a canned response about how its important to prevent internet piracy. the people pushing this bill forward are certainly being directed by lobbying dollars, but I think more fundamentally they are just ignorant of technology. 

    the idea that there is even such a thing as internet culture probably completely escapes them. to them, the purpose of the internet is for companies like amazon to sell us shit and make money. we’re talking about a body of people who’s average age is probably somewhere in 50s. i don’t think most of them have any sense whatsoever of the scope of these proposed actions, how much collateral damage will be caused, or why they should even care about said damage.  

    its the worst type of situation: representatives being paid to think a certain way on an issue they have very little personal knowledge of, that they see as unimportant and esoteric, with opposition to the law made up of people they view as “kids” or “hippies” or some other term that makes our views less important than business people with checks. like i said, i already “wrote my congressmen” but other than that, whats a guy to do to fight this thing? I’m just an internet consumer. 

    • Pamela Dennis says:

      I got the same replies when I e-mailed mine as well. 

    • David Merchant says:

      It’s not that they are in their 50s (I’m in my 50s and am 100% against this bill), but that they are “career” politicians who are not in it for the people they theoretically represent, but are in it for power and money. Time and time again I hear people gripe about politicians, and then vote the incumbent back in (“but the other could be worse” yeah, right; they are far too often the same). Too many of us are hoodwinked and manipulated by those in power to vote out of fear; those in power are wolves in sheep clothing misleading the believers. Even Satan can appear as an angel of light. And it is our fault if we let him deceive us by use of fear, lies, and hate as we have God given minds to use, to think for ourselves, to test all things (ALL things) and keep that which is good. It is up to us to make sure our leaders are actually thinking about the democratic republic that is America first, and not their pocketbooks. We need to vote out every incumbent. Every one. Then, and maybe then, will those in power realize they need to give the people a little bit more attention, rather than just lip service, and sleight of hand.

  11. Matt Popke says:

    Call your senator/rep. Email is convenient and easy, I know, but it’s largely ignored. It’s so easy to put together a mass email campaign these days that they’re not taken as seriously because people know that most the emails they received came from someone who clicked a single button to send a canned complaint. CALL THEM on the actual PHONE!!! It makes a difference. It really does. I’m dialing my rep and two senators today. Yes, your congress critter took campaign donations, but if their constituents manage to clog their phone lines with angry complaints they notice. We need an organized phone campaign that will really get the point across.

  12. Kaibaman says:

    This Bill will fail and it must, I wonder what Viacom does think of this bill. But if you think about it this bill also makes Operation In Our Sites Legal and that has come under great scrutiny and congressmen are against that…but I never thought their trying to pass this before Christmas,my god things are escalating worse then I ever imagined.

  13. Andrew Pautz says:

    Is it just me, or does SOPA create the opportunity for any registered copyright holder (I’m thinking specifically of copyright trolls here) to potentially shut down a company like Sony’s web site for days?

  14. umbriel says:

    You’ll be pleased to know that the national Tea Party organizations are opposed to SOPA as well, so it’s not like this is a fight along party lines — it’s the Big Media lobby trying to steamroller everyone.

  15. willaLavie says:

    Watch this if you would like to look at the counter argument to see what’s actually happening online with regard to the business model of online piracy.  It’s profitable for the pirates, not so much for those artists, authors, musicians and filmmakers who create content. http://vimeo.com/22541902

    • Kaibaman says:

      The RIAA and MPAA are the true Pirates

    • How on earth does anyone profit if I download a torrent? 

      And even if they do, how does that justify a bill that will shut down BoingBoing if someone erroneously claims they are in breach of copyright?

      • Ryan DowlingSoka says:

        Depends on how you got to the torrent. If you went to a site like the piratebay, then the piratebay receives income because you clicked on a site adding to their viewership meaning they can charge more for advertising space.

         It is simple as that, the pirate bay only attracts people due to providing access to paid content for free. Their page views are entirely reliant on it. Traffic stats are through the rough, and the content creators do not receive anything for that download.

        That said, the law goes overboard and does not deal with the issues. Piracy will mutate and change and content creators will not benefit, only the publishing companies that have the money to attack places hosting piracy.

        • Spurious argument.  TPB would also get money if I just visit the website but don’t download anything.  That’s not profiting from piracy any more than broadcasting The A Team is profiting from violence…

    • Bob Quinn says:

      Yes – but policing this is a very slippery slope which can remove all our freedoms on the internet. A war on piracy will cost everyone, Pirates and non-Pirates, unimaginable amounts of money to enforce and will make felons of innocent people with it’s guilty until proven innocent mentality. Pirates will always be one step ahead of the law so it will be the average internet user who will suffer. SOPA is creating a blanket law to cover a very complex issue – it is like holding a car manufacturer responsible for my bad driving if I hit a pedestrian. Legitimate companies will close, innocent people will be fined or jailed, ISP prices will sky rocket – basically everyone will be paying for this regardless of whether they partake in piracy or not. This is not the way to do it. I create digital media for a living and I know that my stuff will be shared on the internet – SO, maybe digital media creators need to rethink their business model rather than try and protect the old one. Maybe the days of making a movie or song and selling it outright are gone. What’s next? I don’t know –  but SOPA sure as hell ain’t the answer. Go with the times – make something that can’t be stolen or if you insist on doing things the old way – go after the thieves individually without government intervention. If someone steals my ideas or money from me in the real world – I can’t tell the bank to cut off someone’s bank account until they prove their innocence – why should the law be different on the internet?

    • Philip Horger says:

      The problem is that this bill is massively broad. If you own a copyright, you can shut down any arbitrary site on a whim. Any copyright. Any site. Even if the claim is complete bull, because there’s no verification. And while they can take legal action against you to defend themselves, it can take months and in the meantime their site is down and they have no income.

      Imagine that you had the power, right now, to shut down Youtube for everybody just because you feel like it. All ISPs and DNS servers are legally obligated to block traffic to it. Sure it would be suicide because they’d sue the hell out of you afterwards, but for awhile, Joe Q. Nobody has all of YouTube by the balls. That’s the power being vested in every copyright holder in the country by SOPA. It’s not just dangerous, it’s terrifyingly absurd. This doesn’t protect intellectual property, it just winks out the internet.

    • captnbli says:

      Well, the problem discussed here is real, but would exist without pirates profitting from it. Profit is not fundamentally the problem, it’s that technology has broken the existing business models.

      I note that I cannot pay to download the movie discussed here in a format and manner that suits me. But I know I could torrent it down for free if I was patient.

    • Allan Meinecke says:

      The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  16. ausPPC says:

    Legislation like this perfectly demonstrates that real people have no political representation.  One path to recourse is lawful rebellion – demand to see the contract you signed in which you agreed to be bound to any odious and onerous terms.  Deny consent, know your Commonlaw rights and be free.  Check out Ungrip
    http://www.youtube.com/user/selfgovernance

  17. Celeste Morgan says:

    I have maybe two followers on Twitter, so I can’t really start this, but perhaps someone with more followers can get a hashtag of #StopSOPA going to help raise awareness.

  18. Celeste Morgan says:

    Another thought (and again, I’d be a poor choice for this since I have no legal background) would be a petition at whitehouse.gov/petitions for the President to veto SOPA if it passes.

  19. obah says:

    Please, I hope you won’t let this law pass. It’s a known fact that European goverments like to ape USA in these kind of silly politics especially when there is magic monies to be made somewhere in there.

    I’m sorry but I just see this law passing now (or in two years after it has been glued to some help puppies law) and your goverment funding/giving tax benefits to the new corporation anti-piracy corps /credit card companies.

  20. kiltcheck says:

    Cory & all,

    While I think the show of solidarity suggested will get some visibility and awareness out there, I think it’d be far more effectual for those of us opposed to spread the word on a grassroots movement that same day to boycott hollywood entertainment. That means no going to any movies, watching TV/Cable (and thus advertising), no DVR, no streaming on Netflix or Hulu, etc. This isn’t just visible but starts hitting them in the wallet with their advertisers, and that’s the only way you’ll get them to blink. Spread the word…It’ll only work if enough people do it.

  21. Bob Quinn says:

    I found 2 links that are very good for sending your opinion to congress – please take a second to sign these petitions.
    https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/stop-e-parasite-act/SWBYXX55

    https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173&

    • Cypherpunks (a public account) says:

      Don’t waste your time on online petitions.  They’re too easy and Congress doesn’t care.  If you want to get your opinion heard, you need to get ON THE PHONE to your representatives and senators.   They weight personal responses heavier than petitions when considering constituent support.  Even better, write an old-fashioned letter.

  22. Craig Quiter says:

    Not only will this not stop piracy, it will give judges the power to break parts of the internet. The U.S. has been good stewards of root DNS up until now. Let’s hope they don’t screw it up and make the web switch its root DNS. That would be a major setback for the world.
    Cast your vote here: http://www.wepolls.com/p/5054979
    And here: https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/112/hr3261

  23. daruma says:

    This will be an absolutely horrible law if enacted!  They haven’t even considered the effects and consequences if they pass this and how it will effect jobs & the economy, not to mention freedom of speech…  
    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/show   Gives you a quick way to send your opposition to this bill to your congress people by selecting oppose or support on the right side of the page.You will be taken to another page where you enter your zip to pull up the congress people that you want to send your comments about this awful bill to. You can decide if you want what you write to be private or public/ open for others to read. The left side provides info about the bill, a link to the actual text of the bill, and news about the bill.  

  24. Jace Joy says:

    yeah you do what you like sopa, and  you will have a war in your hands that you will never believe. 

  25. Brandy_Bogard says:

    SOPA might as well be an outright nullification of the First Amendment.

  26. Rene Bjørnskov says:

    Stop supporting the entertainment industry,and they will go away. Nobody can force us to watch crappy Hollywood movies or listen to idiotic pop music. We don’t need them, they need us

  27. I think you should…CONTACT ANONYMOUS….

  28. From the UK but surely the way to stop this is to fight fire with fire.  They are treating the threat of piracy as an attack on peoples legitimate businesses and are using this to create an overblown control mechanism.  So get your supporters to focus on businesses.   Start small and grow with organised boycotting of movies, cancelling of netflix etc.  subs,  in fact any business that is used as an outlet for their products.  Make sure these targets know why you are doing it.  Putting commercial pressure on the industry is how you will lobby more effectively.     When business owners who are impacted by boycotts rather than “hippies and kids” are calling their reps then they will start to listen and take this more seriously.

  29. Brian Tomlinson says:

    I just wrote my congressman in Oregon (Listed above) with sources, my family is doing the same in their respective areas.  It’s not much and will most likely be ignored, until the mail, letters, and phone calls start flooding in.

    It’s hard to believe that people are stupid enough to think that these laws are a good idea.  Oh well, I guess we learn a new thing every day.

  30. Jack Walsh says:

    this makes me want to cry :’(

  31. dufuss983 says:

    WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS……. i dont care whether its protest or literally march up on the capitols front steps WE NEED TO PROTEST AGAINST IT AND STOP IT! this could lead us into a war…think about it! The government uses internet sites every day they would be the only ones controlling it! If that ever happens, that means that they would have access to our computers….they could legally HACK into our computers and get files and data off of them! We need to stop this….SOON!

  32. I’d like to know how Protect IP/SOPA will make the internet less secure. Everywhere I’ve read doesn’t seem to go into enough detail on this. Yes, non-compliant domains will be walled, but how does this make the connection less secure?

    I oppose the government giving too big of a tool to corporate interests to enforce the ownership of their intellectual property, but I also oppose infringement of copyright on the grounds that a medium is also used in ways that do not infringe of the create rights of others.

    • david denman says:

      Try imaging a legal form of a denial of service attack.  A simple accusation shuts down sites you don’t like, or agree with, with no real recourse.  This removes many of the checks and balances of a free information flow.  

  33. Kat says:

    I don’t even live in America and I’m angered by this.  Apart from signing the petitions, what can I do from the other side of the globe to stop this passing?

  34. DanL says:

    I’m sick of brainless american politicians. Who the hell voted for them?

  35. This is so stupid! I may not be American myself, but I have made friends (real friends, not perverts or rapists) that live in America through the internet. It is the only way we can actually communicate and it would break my heart to learn that she couldn’t talk to me anymore because of a law that is stupid and not at all well thought out.

    The government definitely haven’t considered the loss of business that will follow the passing of this bill throughout the country. If you think about how many businesses promote themselves through email, Facebook and Twitter, and then consider how many people use the internet to look for products similar to ones they have found in a shop, you are dealing with a large amount of customers that 1. will not get what they want/need, which can leave people angered and upset (perhaps the government like being complained to?), and 2. will not be giving companies any of their money which is, ‘presumably’, what most companies thrive off of.

    In addition, the internet has only been out for a decade and a bit, yet there are more websites than people in the world. You’d think that the government might want to use the internet to their advantage (using it as a tool to communicate with the younger generation of voters would be a great idea) but, instead they’d like to block people from using it. This will lose candidates who support this bizarre bill so many votes. You might lose voters all together because what young adult can take a government seriously when they prevent them from using certain prominent websites that they may use for so many purposes. These young adults have been there since the internet took over the world (I think everyone can admit that that’s pretty much what happened) and are used to it’s facilities being there. This is letting down a whole generation, and probably so many more people.

    Nevermind job losses. I don’t even want to consider how many people could lose jobs. For example, if your favourite website was Facebook and you suddenly couldn’t get on anymore, would you want to go on the computer at all? Then remember how many people shop online. Statistics are shown below:

    Among Internet users with Internet access using it shop, the highest percentage shopping online is found in:

    South Korea (99%)
    UK (97%)
    Germany (97%)
    Japan (97%)
    US (94%)

    That percentage is pretty high. Imagine losing all that business and how that would damage the companies. Look at these statistics:

    The most popular and purchased items are:

    Books (41% purchased in the past three months)
    Clothing/Accessories/Shoes (36%)
    Videos / DVDs / Games (24%)
    Airline Tickets (24%)
    Electronic Equipment (23%)

    In all honesty, these are all luxury items. However, these are all prominent business sectors outside of the internet, yet people could be losing that option? (I found these statistics here - http://www.multilingual-search.com/world-statistics-on-the-number-of-internet-shoppers/28/01/2008/ )Now, I do not claim to have more than a few brain cells of knowledge on this subject. But I do understand what I would do if my favourite social networking site was blocked from me. I would only ever use my computer to play games or to do school work. Or maybe I’d give up on the whole thing, because I would miss my friends too much to even look at the laptop that once created a connection for me with a few people that I have bonded with so well. This whole bill is just wrong.

  36. Martijn says:

    It never ceases to amaze me how corruption is legal and institutional in the US. I know it happens everywhere, but only in the US do people act like this is how the system is supposed to work.

  37. dwasifar karalahishipoor says:

    I just wrote a new book.  It’s only one word long.  It’s a common three-letter word, beginning with T and ending with E.  By law, I have automatic copyright on it now, so if I see my book quoted in entirety in anything published on, say, Sony’s website, I’ll file a SOPA action to have them taken down.

  38. Yes! That makes perfect sense! Cripple the technology that caused the greatest economic expansion in American history!

    And let’s not forget the long long list of people against this: Google, ISPs, the OWS movement, the Tea Party, even the FCC! If Congress pushes this turd through their assholes into the toilet America has become, it will be flushed. Even if we have to use a plunger.

  39. Tristiana Johnson says:

    What is wrong with these polititions!! What happened to the first amendment. These damn spoiled Hollywood artists just want more money so they can buy more useless crap. Newsflash you so called artists. We don’t need you. YOU need US!!!! we are make and break you!  We will boycott your movie and songs!! Go ahead and pass the bill, and perpare yourselves for a war the likes of which you have never seen!

  40. james judge says:

    Has anyone started an online petition for this and if so, where can I find it? Knowing about this is only half the battle. We need to fight this with our own petition as well as having a site with the contact information for the people that need to be told how we feel. Please, if anyone knows where I can find that, let me know.

  41. Siobhan Findley says:

    I’m signing this, i don’t do a lot of fan art-but still.

    This bill is just utter stupidity 

  42. chimonger says:

    ?Where are term limits? 
    ->Blocked by legislators protecting their “jobs”.
    ?How come non-related riders can still be hooked onto any Bill struggling for passage? 
    ->Still there-closest to abolish taht one was Clinton.
    ?Where are limits on benefits Legislators continue to get, once they leave office?
    ->Legislators have voted every time to protect their obscene packages of very expensive perks.
    ?How is it that pernicious legislation has gotten passed at all? 
     ->It is usually voted for by “voice vote” in the middle of the night, to prevent constituents from learning who voted for it-since during those votes, no one is required to keep track of who is voting, or how.  
    ->These are also passed by attaching it as a rider, to non-related Bills and never discussed, and usually, the Bill is something perilously important to get passed, forcing legislators to vote it in, riders and all.  
    HOW did these underhanded devious methods of passing laws we do not want, or that damage our freedoms, get put into action? 
    THAT is a very good question, that needs answered, and corrected! 
     
    Legilsators all have corporations they own or sit on Boards for.  Or, they owe something to constituents who do, who can push the legislator to vote for some Bill the Corporation really wants.
    Corporations who have legislators in their back pockets who help them well, also help them stay in office longer. 
     
    We have lots of legislators subsidized, in one way or another, by Special Interests, who have taken far too much power and control of the USA., for some very badly thought-out, greedy reasons.    
    Follow the Money!

  43. chimonger says:

    Odd.
    First They want “one world order”,
    then they want to firewall us from communicating with the rest of the world…
    …that sounds pretty schisophrenic!

  44. Allan Meinecke says:

    Some members of Congress will make a huge amount of money if this bill passes, since it is legal for them to trade on this form of insider trading.  The financial gain could conceivably dwarf even the obscene amounts of lobbying money that some of them are getting to support this horrible bill.  Bad legislation is worse than no legislation.  If the intent is to protect artists and copyrights, why not take the time to craft solid, responsible, internet-friendly legislation?

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