UK Internet censorship plan no less stupid than it was last year

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  1. thereisno_spoon

    The thing that frightens me is that Cameron is backing these proposals with nothing but rhetoric. No empirical evidence to suggest that this approach can even work, and we all know the obvious reason that evidence is not being used to back this up; Cameron's proposals do not hold up to a shred of scrutiny.

    High impact legislation being proposed by rhetoric alone is both frustrating and terrifying to me.

  2. Anton_P_Gully

    There's a bunch of hand-waving magic at work. DC says there WILL be an opt-out filter in place at the majority of ISPs. ISPs shrug and say, sure but THIS is what it will cost extra on an Internet subscription to do that. The policy goes away because of freedom of speech and justice, and oh, ya know, you don't want to be the political party that made everyone's Internet cost more.

    Come what may, I really like the idea of having a family filter on the Internet, perhaps one of those Net Nanny programs offered on a government subsidy. Talk all you want about the rights and wrongs, but the reality is that most parents haven't a clue what to do about it, or are unwilling to spend extra on it but kids have easy access to the sort of material that was virtually unobtainable ten or twenty years ago. Blaming parents for being bad parents doesn't actually turn them into good parents.

    Nor, should this be about judging anything but the complete unavailability of porn to children as being a failure and therefore not worth pursuing. It's about doing what you can to raise the barrier to entry. That seems like a worthwhile goal to me.

    And as I said in the other thread, I'm basically pro-porn, just not the weird stuff. Now let's define weird...

  3. Matthew_Wilkes

    I submitted an epetition to ban celebrity gossip on the internet. Unfortunately it was rejected with the following message:

    E-petitions cannot be used to request action on issues that are outside the responsibility of the government.

    I really wish the someone would tell the PM this..

  4. SquidgyB

    Did any recent government claim to be led by scientific debate/reasoning for the creation/application of new laws?

    If so, then this flies in the face of it, as did so many decisions in the past (going back to the dissolution of the ACMD and David Nutt's dismissal). I don't think it will ever change, but it depresses me to see each new generation hope for huge changes in the ways government works, only to be disillusioned by vote grabbing Daily Mail pleasing rhetoric spouted by people who are clearly only in it for their own self satisfaction and self preservation.

    Grump.

    Rant over.

  5. Gorgonaut

    But one cannot dictate what information is and is not to be available, unless it's directly illegal. It's like forbidding children to hear dirty jokes from someone casually telling them nearby.

    It's obvious that, viewed through an uncritical lens, pork porn can be a destructive force on a young psyche. However, i believe simply making it more difficult to find is not exactly a cure. It's more of a sugar pill.

    Edit: A cellphone is not necessarily a good way to convey textual opinions.

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