The Occult and Hip Hop

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  1. Baldhead says:

    I’m not surprised by Jay- Z using Fiver Percenter phrases- Big Daddy Kane was a mentor of his.

    Of course, great lyricists in Hip Hop tend to reference a really wide variety of things to the point where I suspect that the majority of Jay- Z’s fans likely have no idea what many of his lyrics may refer to. Going back to the Five Percenters they emphasised education and reading. Not to mention thinking for yourself. Things to be praised in a religion if you ask me.

  2. Stucipher says:

    Most forms of esotericism simply concern knowledge of how the mind works, through self-mastery and awareness, attained individually. When systems of beliefs are formed, things like the complexity of dualism are usually misinterpretated by those who have no desire to truly understand themselves, leading to the development of simple aphorisms to guide the masses (exoteric).

  3. dahifi says:

    If you want to see something really crazy, check out the Vigilant Citizen blog and his analysis of Jay-Z and Rhianna videos: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=175

    For bonus points, take some of the Kool-Aid and see how Lady Gaga and MTV are involved in mind control.

  4. taosk8r says:

    If you think those bands have a great deal of occult symbolism in their lyrics, you really might appreciate some of the stuff by a group called Jedi Mind Tricks. The mystical slant varies across the albums, mostly related to whether one member in particular is involved with the album.. Here’s wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Mind_Tricks

    Interesting, Jus Allah (to whom I was referring, above) is mentioned as a 5 percenter..

  5. geobarefoot says:

    My introduction to the Five Percenters came from listening to Howard Stern many years ago. That guy did more to open my eyes to the tapestry of life on this planet than just about anyone else when I was a teen.

  6. Anonymous says:

    JAYZ like many rappers use 5% code in rhyme but he also used to rap with the JAZ who was a known for his 5% hiphop. Check out a skinny JAYZ represent the nation.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1thvEtGM5M&#t=1m35s

  7. Anonymous says:

    i have a friend who identifies as a 5%er and he’s one of the most intelligent and interesting people i’ve ever met. takes his mysticism tongue-in-cheek and knows a lot more about that sort of stuff than most.

  8. Anonymous says:

    5%s is basically a jail house religion, and used as a way of integrating a gang. It’s no surprise Jay Z is aware of it as anyone who knows someone in jail is aware of it. It’s an incredibly stupid religion (yes more than most), and it’s members are mostly racist believing that only a black man is good and whites are inherently evil. But don’t take my word for it, read all about it yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nation_of_Gods_and_Earths

    A lot of great hip-hop groups use 5% terms in their lyrics and titles, kind of like listening to Screwdriver, I can appreciate the musical goodness even if I totally disagree with the politics.

  9. crashgrab says:

    Silly me, I always get my 5 percenters and my 1 percenters (outlaw motorcyclists) mixed up.

    Can someone be both a 5 percenter and 1 percenter at the same time? What percent would that make them then?

  10. jordawesome says:

    When I saw Hip Hop and Occult, I thought of the first (and I think only) Presage album, “Outer Perimeter.” Check it out, why not!

    http://www.discogs.com/Presage-Outer-Perimeter/release/115910

  11. Anonymous says:

    Man, I hate to think how wide open Mitch’s mind is going to get blown when he gets around to spinning some Killah Priest tracks.

  12. Anonymous says:

    The mighty Wu-Tang Clan include a lot of (frankly rather bonkers-sounding) 5% stuff in their lyrics.

  13. romulusnr says:

    Unclassifiable? Pretty sure it’s a form of Islam, an offshoot of Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam. And it’s not exactly new. My introduction to it came in an early 90′s SPIN Magazine feature (“The Five Percent Solution”, Charlie Ahearn, Feb 1991). Poor Righteous Teachers, Rakim, Brand Nubian, Big Daddy Kane, Busta Rhymes, Gang Starr, Wu-Tang, are all Five Percenters for a start. I think it’s disingenuous and sensationalistic to call it “original”, “unclassifiable” and a “mystery”. Sure, there’s a curious numerological element, but it’s not used for divining the unknown.

  14. Felix Mitchell says:

    @DAEMON

    Well done being closed minded? Maybe educate yourself. There’s a lot of great hip-hop.

  15. Daemon says:

    I’ll stick to Cthulhumas carrols for my occult music. The phrase “hip hop” all but ensures I’m going to consider it unredemed garbage.

  16. 2k says:

    Where’s Takuan? I would have loved to see him cut through these occult subjects.

  17. Jeroenemans says:

    http://www.mediafire.com/?tkryrowmyzz

    this is a mixtape in which much of the modern black music with an esoteric theme is used. There’s also an interview with an unnamed guy who talks a lot about ‘black superiority’ and all: sounds like a bit of a loony to me..

    the source of this tape is the excellent music blog http://www.attorneyst.com

  18. Demihuman says:

    ROMuLUSNR: Word!

    Created an account just to say that. Bra-f’n-vo

  19. epi_mom says:

    #5 is right on; the Nation of Gods and Earths came out of the NOI. Kind of silly to call it occult. Michael Muhammed Knight (awesome author of The Taqwacores) has a new nonfiction book out about it: The Five Percenters: Islam, Hip-Hop and the Gods of New York.

  20. Mitch Horowitz says:

    Actually the 5 Percenters are distant from NOI. They have had white members and have a faith and theology entirely distinct. The occult reference is not necessarily to the Percenters influence alone among Jay-Z’s influences/samples. Cheers,m

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