The mysteries of rabies

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Recently watched a program on RFDTV regarding rabies vaccinations for horses. I had not even thought about horses being susceptible, and of course if a horse gets bitten no one is likely to notice until they start showing signs, and the signs do not necessarily point you right to the conclusion of rabies. So by the time they are properly diagnosed there are usually a lot of people who will need treatment for exposure. Just the thought of something which is incurable and fatal is so horrifying. It’s easy to forget life really is precious and delicate.

  2. jridley says:

    Next time a bat gets into your house, how about just catching it and putting it back outside? Rabies is fairly rare in bats, and they’re amazing and very useful animals. At the very least, it concerns me that you have kids who think beating ANYTHING to death is a good thing.

    • dculberson says:

      I think you confused “cats” and “kids.” A cat killing a small rodent is not a cause for alarm as regards the psychological health of the cat.

    • Perla says:

      I never ever knew that rabies was incurable. Scary, as if I wasn’t worried enough about Ebola.

  3. Anonymous says:

    “But are bats really that common a carrier?”

    Vampire bats are particularly effective at transmitting the virus, but their range is pretty limited. Other bat species don’t seem to have the same resilience in the face of active rabies, so they lose the fine motor control necessary for a bat to do more than crawl or flop around on the ground pretty quickly. The majority of confirmed non-vampire bat-transmitted rabies cases involved people who were bitten after harassing or trying to assist bats that were clearly incapacitated.

  4. doctorandy says:

    Wow. Bats seem to be getting a bad rap on this thread. Rabies is bad, no question. But are bats really that common a carrier? I live in Ohio, and had the chance to talk to a local wildlife vet recently who told me that rabies in any animal is very uncommon in my state – largely due to a long history of good control measures. I know that raccoons and skunks are common carriers – anything big enough to survive an attack by a rabid carrier. It’s pretty uncommon in rats, because of their size. But does anyone know the incidence in wild bats?
    Oh wait, I’ll ask the Internet…

    “Bats primarily associated with rabies virus variants affecting humans were more likely to yield positive test results for rabies (22.7%), compared with all other bats (5.5%) in most seasons and from most regions of the United States.”
    http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/pdfplus/10.2460/javma.2003.222.633

    “The incidence of human rabies due to bedroom bat exposure without recognized contact was 1 case per 2.7 billion person-years.”
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19400689

    Ok. So one in five bats has rabies. Not good odds. But on the bright side, it’s pretty uncommon to catch rabies from a bat flying in your house.

    (As a side note: An effective rabies vaccine has been developed, using gene therapy, that puts the genetic code for a vaccine into an orally-available virus which then “infects” an animal that eats it. Really cool stuff.)

  5. Mazoola says:

    As a slightly orthogonal link, the first collection of short stories (called “Lantern Lecture” in the UK, “Fabrications” in the US) by Adams Mars-Jones, a college-era friend of mine, includes “Hoosh-mi,” a [briefly notorious] imagining of Queen Elizabeth II succumbing to bat-borne rabies.

  6. Anonymous says:

    Anybody notice how much that bat looks like Jarjar?

  7. techdeviant says:

    I woke up at 2am one night this summer and found my cats tossing around a wee little bat who was still squeaking and mad and alive. We wrapped it in a towel and tossed it outside, the cats were so disappointed.
    I don’t take my cats to the vet for regular vaccinations because they are strictly indoor cats, but we took the one who had been obviously playing with the bat. The vet told us that Seattle bats rarely have rabies so its also unlikely the cats would have been infected. All in all, I was pretty scared that my poor cats would die a horrible rabies death until the vet made us feel better. Its been 7 months or so, both cats are fine.

  8. Anonymous says:

    As an aussie, this article makes me very glad that rabies doesn’t (yet) have a foothold here. At least all our dangerous animals are obviously so.

  9. Anne K. says:

    Hah! My sisters and my mom and I were just talking about rabies the other day while playing “If you where a disease/virus/infection, what would you want to be?” at the dinner table.

    There are only a few people who have survived and I believe they mostly have suffered serious permanent brain damage. The one or two exceptions where put in a induced coma to stop the progress of brain degradation while giving the treatments time to work, I believe. The survior’s cases were fairly recent too; sometime in the 00′s.

    I remember a few years ago some little kid at the Minnesota Zoo tried to pick up one of the meerkats or groundhogs and got bit. They put down the animals to check for rabies instead of treating the kid which I thought was sort of cruel.

    (BTW, in our little family game, I decided to be Hepatitis B)

  10. Anonymous says:

    thatbob – Bubonic plague is totally treatable, though! It can have some nasty lingering effects, but like tetanus, if you go to the doc as soon as symptoms appear, you’ll likely be alright.

    As a side note, I adore bats. Furry flapping velvet wings that eat all the yuck bugs in my yard! Mosquitoes and flies were SO much worse before we put in bat boxes!

  11. sleze says:

    There was a documentary about this with a fun raising event as well:

    Michael Scott’s Dunder Mifflin Scranton Meredith Palmer Memorial Celebrity Rabies Awareness Pro-Am Fun Run Rate For the Cure.

    If you want to support the cause of curing rabies, you can buy a t-shirt as a donation here: http://coolspotters.com/clothing/celebrity-rabies-awareness-pro-am-fun-run-for-the-cure-t-shirt

  12. Anonymous says:

    Great job demonizing bats, who are already suffering an unexplained plague of fungus (75% of White-Nosed Bats have been obliterated recently, and suddenly). As if bats getting into your house are the #1 way to get rabies. Raccoons, opossums,and skunks are far more likely to give you rabies than a bat!

    • Anonymous says:

      Depends what part of the country you live in. in California, at least the part that I live and work (animal control) in, our leading rabies carriers are bats, with skunks coming in second. Raccoons very commonly carry it on the east coast, but not around here. Opossums, while they have been known to have rabies, are much less likely to have it than any of the listed animals. they have an immune system that works differently from the other animals. Because a bat can get into your house without you noticing, can bite you in your sleep without you feeling it, and can carry rabies with no symptoms, they are a much bigger risk than other animals. Don’t get me wrong, I love bats, and all animals, but downplaying their risk is dangerous.

  13. phisrow says:

    Going youtubing for rabies patient videos is, of course, not recommended for those of us who are eating…

  14. Anonymous says:

    Happy bat is happy.

  15. alteran says:

    Just an FYI– there is a lot of paranoia in these stories about bat-transmitted rabies. (The author, BTW, does not seem to be one of the paranoid.)

    I’m not saying it never occurs, just that the it appears wildly overblown. Generally, when someone, particularly a child, gets rabies and no one can find the proximal cause, bats are assigned the blame– even though, as this article said, the incubation period for rabies is up to a year and all sorts of animal contact occurred over that period of time.

    Bats are actually under a lot of ecological pressure these days, both from encroachment and “prophylactic” extermination. They are by far the most effective natural check against mosquitos– no small spreader of fatal diseases themselves.

  16. quakk says:

    great article!

    as a vet student, i wrote a paper on rabies. whether or not your pets are vaccinated, you might consider post-exposure prophylaxis for them.

    as far as i can recall, there have been no deaths in cases where post-exposure prophylaxis was administered promptly and properly. better safe than sorry.

    cheers!

  17. Lobster says:

    We need to get on this and develop a cure before it turns us all in zombies. ZOMBIES!

  18. Anonymous says:

    Don’t release the bat. Have it tested. You can spare yourself shots/death that way.

    Raccoons, BTW, are usually carrying bat rabies.

  19. Connie H. says:

    I expect there’s some correllation because rabies seems to knock down bats faster than normal — especially because they’re so small and there’s not much nervous system for the disease to rampage through — and because bats need every bit of nervous system working in order to fly properly.

    Children, this is WHY you don’t touch wild animals except with heavy gloves or better yet find a professional to deal with them. And why you vaccinate your pets, even indoor kitties who never, ever get out — sometimes the outdoors comes in to THEM.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Just went through the 5 shot series after exposure to a Raccoon. In the 80′s I had the RIG which would have allowed me to only get 2 post exposure shots instead of 5. They couldn’t track down the record so i got a RIG and the 5 shots..sucks.. but beats croaking .

  21. dculberson says:

    Really, the lack of funding makes a ton of sense to me – in the US at least. Once an almost completely effective treatment is in place, with the number of deaths down to a really tiny amount, why should much money be spent on studying it? That funding is better used to study something that’s still affecting thousands of people each year.

    Then again, understanding how it works might help push our understanding of other diseases, so maybe I’m talking myself out of that position.

    Maggie, thanks for the interesting post! I’ve also had a bat in my house and didn’t worry about getting a rabies shot. The thought hadn’t even crossed my mind, honestly.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Rabies is a huge problem in the South. Foxes are the main culprit. People get bit all the time by rabid foxes (and other animals). Finding an effective treatment is still a very, very valid need.

  23. Anonymous says:

    a very good article. people love pets, but they do not know the danger at the background of this love. rabies is an incurable viral infection. but there are many safty steps to be followed by pet lovers. this valuable article makes the reader understand how much terrible rabies is

  24. TEKNA2007 says:

    Great article. Glad to hear everything worked out.

    Here’s another interesting rabies tale from “This American Life”.

    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1268

    It starts around 6 minutes into the full episode.

  25. Anonymous says:

    If you find a potentially rabid animal, they can test it, sparing you the nasty series of shots. However, the test is lethal for the animal.

    Before we vilify bats, people need to realize that domestic animals can become infected. And because we bring them into our barns and homes, we’re more likely to get in contact with their saliva. For example people who feed stray cats but who won’t take them to the vet are creating a wonderful potential for rabies. Dogs of course are also a risk. Livestock can get rabies; there is a case of a rabid calf at an education center here in Maryland in December. If you’re not sure an animal is vaccinated, assume he isn’t. And get ALL animals on your property vaccinated, even the “barn cats” who come and go.

    Rabies vaccinations are as cheap as $5. Call your local SPCA or health department and ask about “rabies clinics”. Dog/cat rescues may also be able to help you.

  26. WilsonB says:

    Hi; I’m the guy who took the photo at the top of the article.

    Thanks for finding it and putting it to use, but bats aren’t a good way to get rabies. Many other animals are vastly more likely to be rabid.
    It is a pretty dramatic face though; not something you would want to stick any soft parts into. Heh.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/wilsonb/866453852/

  27. EricT says:

    I seem to recall a story from several years ago were someone who contracted rabies actually survived. They were able to live long enough for the disease to run it’s course.

  28. Geonz says:

    Raccoons are much more likely to have the disease. I worked at a swimming pool where some tenants had adopted a wandering raccoon, and they took it to the pool frequently. They had a large party with over a hundred guests, sharing beer with the critter…. then it got sick, they took it to the vet, who dxed rabies, and there was a small media blitz in Baltimore to try to get everybody who’d partied with it to go get the shots. (I tried to get a phone line out to the health department to see whether pool patrons should be concerned, but got canned instead.)

  29. Anna L. Conti says:

    In the late 70′s, I was working at Albany Medical Center, in Albany, NY and a researcher at the hospital got rabies. He’d been working with the live virus, but they didn’t really know how he contracted the disease. There was quite a bit of concern that he may have inhaled it. Anyway, I took care of him in ICU, and he survived, although he had permanent brain damage. We were under the impression that he was the first person to survive rabies.

  30. epi_mom says:

    @Geonz: the ‘most likely carrier’ varies by geographic region. In my corner of the US, skunks are most the most likely animal to have rabies. The most common reservoirs in other areas include foxes and raccoons. Bats aren’t #1 anywhere (a close #2 in some spots), but they’re worrisome since, as previously mentioned, in rare cases, they may expose people without their knowing.

    Maggie, did your state health lab test the bat?

  31. Adam C says:

    Back in 1957, Berton Roueche, a health and medicine columnist for New Yorker Magazine, wrote an amazing piece on Rabies.

    If you have New Yorker archives access, the piece is here http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1957/04/06/1957_04_06_039_TNY_CARDS_000256060

    Otherwise the article was collected and published in this book
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=berton+roueche+incurable+wound&x=0&y=0

    Even after 50+ years the article is still absolutely chilling.

  32. glory bee says:

    This is apropos of nothung sensible in the way of comments… have lived deep in the bush here in OZ, but never saw a bat. Lots of spooky looking owls though. They sit so still on any wires around and I actually love their ‘boobook’ noise. Possums.. how possums ever got into our cupboards is a mystery. I was just thinking, to veer back on topic, that the bat has become such an Avatar for kids today, from comics etc. AND never forget the influence that the Twilight series will have on these creatures of the night!!

  33. Kevin says:

    It’s worth noting that Preventive Vaccination is available for humans, however it is not generally recommended except for people who are likely to be exposed to animals who might be infectious (vets, animal control, etc) and is expensive; it’s 3 doses over a month’s time, as opposed to the 4 doses (plus a shot of Rabies Immune Globulin, for a total of 5 needle sticks) you would receive post-exposure.

    And just like with your pets, even though you’ve been vaccinated they still recommend post-exposure prophylaxis, so getting vaccinated in advance doesn’t really cut down on the number of injections you’d need, so it’s just not worth it unless you’re in a very high risk group.

  34. entropyred says:

    Very interesting, thanks Maggie. I had no idea it was still such a serious disease (if you don’t get the vaccine). Raccoons are definitely the big scare around here, not bats, especially when raccoons and domestic animals can easily get into fights right in your back yard.

  35. technogeek says:

    Highly recommended reading: Berton Rouche’s essay _The_Incurable_Wound_. (It’s the title chapter of one of his books of collected essays.) Rouche did a wonderful job of presenting the history and current state of medicine in the form of “whatdunnits”, using real-life cases as a springboard for illustrating how far we’d come and just how fragile a thing life still was (and is). _The_Incurable_Wound_ is his description of rabies, and even though it was written half a century ago this is one area where we haven’t made all that much progress.

    (I’ve often thought that more game designers should read this one. D&D players in particular tend to be very cavalier about how their characters are getting clawed and bitten, and a bit of infection risk — either real-world hazards or fantasy ones like infectious lycanthropy — would make the gaming worlds that much more complex and interesting. “Never mind protecting the code — protect the healer!”)

  36. HuronBob says:

    1. recent death by rabies in michigan
    2. friend works at morgue
    3. friend has to remove brain
    4. removal results in brain/blood vapor
    5. friend needs rabies shots
    6. risk management says, “oh shit”

  37. Modusoperandi says:

    So I shouldn’t have petted these cute kittens?

  38. bkad says:

    Have rabies concerns led to restrictions on building bat houses? I saw a tv show on that when I was a kid and really wanted to build one to put out in the back yard but I never did.

  39. Carol Maltby says:

    We once woke up to find a bat had gotten into the room. While we didn’t feel that bites were an issue, we did notice that were dozens of little bat poops (just like those of non-flying mice) all over the covers, and we hoped that we hadn’t been sleeping with our mouths open.

  40. auilix says:

    What happened to the bat? I’m curious…

  41. Emmy222 says:

    Wow i will never look at bats the same way again

  42. Anonymous says:

    Australians, you aren’t really rabies free! Australia has the bat lyssavirus (which belongs to the same genus as classical rabies, just a different genotype), which has the same transimission, symptoms, and fatal outcome. Fortunately the same vaccines and prophylactic procedures as rabies protect against it, so it’s all good.

  43. JesseH says:

    This article has one of the best opening lines I’ve seen in a while. Well done. :’)

  44. Anonymous says:

    Raccoons (also coyotes, foxes, skunks) often die from “canine distemper”, symptoms of which are very similar to rabies. (Canine distemper is _not_ transferrable to humans.) Good to be cautious, but if you see a raccoon who seems to be rabid, it is more likely that he is infected with canine distemper.

  45. Anonymous says:

    Since you had a mortally injured bat on your hands anyway – they can test a dead critter for rabies, and then you can be sure if you or your pets were at risk.

  46. thatbob says:

    Maggie, thanks for this timely article. I was recently trying to raise awareness of rabies among my friends, and I had the thread hijacked – hijacked! – by some Tetanus Awareness lunatics. (Hopefully that won’t happen here.) While there are more tetanus deaths in the US (and world) per year, you can have symptoms of tetanus, go to your doctor, get treatment, and live. With rabies, the onset of symptoms means it’s already too late, which is why I am morbidly obsessed and obsessively terrified of this disease. I might already have rabies!!!

    I hope that you, as a Minnesotan, are also aware of the threat of Bubonic Plague aka Black Death that is carried by the Prairie Dogs of your state (and the Dakotas). Please be safe!

  47. Anonymous says:

    Before treating anyone shouldn’t the bat have been examined to see if it was infected with rabies?

  48. zombieite says:

    i once read a news article where someone died because he didn’t get the vaccine after catching a bat in the house and setting it free. he didn’t think he needed the vaccine because he was sure he hadn’t been bitten.

    as to how he got it, i think the article said something about getting some of the bat’s saliva on him or something. not to scare anyone, but i just wanted to let you know there might be a possibility of getting it without being bitten at all.

  49. CANTFIGHTTHEDITE says:

    No cure, eh? Can’t you just boost your immune system or something?

  50. markbellis says:

    Opossums aren’t a likely rabies vector, according to the University of Florida:
    “Opossums, like most other animals, are susceptible to infection by the rabies virus; however, very few rabid wild opossums have been documented. Extremely high doses of the virus have been required to experimentally infect opossums as they seem to be highly resistant to the disease. Even though they do not often carry rabies, opossums can still deliver a nasty bite.” – http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw026
    There’s some speculation the marsupial’s low body temperature inhibits the rabies virus’ growth.

  51. jaypee says:

    Jesus.. in the warmer months I wake up with bats flying around my bedroom rather often. I typically just catch them with a towel and toss ‘em outside.

    Thanks Maggie, I am now terrified of sleep.

  52. Anonymous says:

    Exposure to rabies can happen any day, any time, and at the places you expect the least. In the last 3 days, there were more than 20 incidents of rabid dog biting in moscow (the place is not exactly the middle of nowhere – it a large megapolis). I’m sort of scared now to go outdoors.

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe if they did something about the massive stray dog population in Moscow they wouldn’t have that problem, or at least keep those nasty creatures out of the Metro

  53. Anonymous says:

    as an aussie, I want to remind my fellow aussie that hendra virus is a near-rabies equivalent and that the treatment regimes and prophlaxis are mostly the same..

    fruitbats being somewhat larger than these critters, and having more liquid acidic fruitshit (it strips the duco off cars) the prime target is horses, eating grass under fruit-trees where fruitbats feed.

    hence hendra: the Brisbane suburb where the racehorses live, who first infected and killed a trainer..

  54. Thad E Ginataom says:

    Just in case anybody is worried about the injections…

    I’ve just had a course of five, which was prompted by a nip from a stray cat, which I feed, here in India. It’s one of those injections that makes your muscle ache for a few minutes, but it was gone by the time I walked out to the car. No pain; no side effects.

    The cat continues to be fit, so I’m confident I would have been anyway. Plus rabies is not common in this city. The casualty doc said didn’t need rabies jabs, but I said I wanted them.

    Next time I get bitten, I’ll only need three.

  55. Anonymous says:

    Interesting post! Rabies was my number one concern when I was doing the veterinary thing in the Army. In fact, digging up some information on the first positive rabies case reported in the upstate NY/Canada area, you’ll find my name. Prior to my sending a suspicious raccoon in there had never been a positive case in upstate NY, and that area of Canada, until that point, was considered “rabies free.” It even sparked a rabies vaccination bait drop that I took part in. (Flying in a small bumpy plane with hundreds of pounds of fish-smelling baits… I was one of the few that managed to come down with a clean barf bag.)

    So all that being said, I’m curious as to why they didn’t have you send the bat in for testing? This would have removed any doubt one way or the other, and would have allowed you to make a more informed decision.

    Personally, Rabies scares the hell out of me. My rabies titer is 14x stronger than what is considered “immune” and even still, I pay for the occasional booster. But then, I also enjoy hiking/camping quite a bit.

    Best of luck!

    • Anonymous says:

      Hey anonymous. If i had the 5 post injections, then two boosters after 4 years, then another 2 after another three, ive been told i will be immunized this time for more than 5 years this time (CDC recommendations). WHen you say your titer is 14X the immunized level how many vacciniations have u had? and where do u htink i stand based on the vaccines ive gotten?

      Thanks

  56. technogeek says:

    Related question: How long does rabies persist on/in buried bones?

    Opossum dropped (literally) dead in my back yard this fall, of presumably natural causes since I didn’t notice any marks when burying the corpse. Of course I didn’t see it much closer than the end of a shovel, since I didn’t know what it died of and didn’t particularly want to get closer. But I’m wondering whether there will be a point at which it could be presumed safe to exhume the bones and mount them for display — or whether I should abandon that idea.

    (I considered trying to find a taxidermist, but presumed that they too would rather not work with the remains of a critter in unknown-but-suspect health.)

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