Wikileaks ACTA cables confirm it was a screwjob for the global poor


14 Responses to “Wikileaks ACTA cables confirm it was a screwjob for the global poor”

  1. Anonymous says:


    aka – business as usual by the Lie, Cheat and Steal crowd.

  2. awjtawjt says:

    Wikileaks? wtf is that?

  3. alllie says:

    Sometimes I think we have no more control over our government than the Egyptian people have over theirs. This is something the majority of Americans would be against, yet not only are we given no say, they keep it secret from us so we won’t even complain.

  4. Avram / Moderator says:

    What a noxious stew of euphemism and deceptive language in those excerpts. I especially love “address the IPR problems of third-nations such as China, Russia, and Brazil”, which sounds as if it might be saying that China, Russia, and Brazil have a copyright problem, which we’re generously volunteering to help them with, when what it’s actually saying is that those three nations are a problem from the point of view of the wealthy IP-owning nations.

    But that whole “gold standard” thing which other nations “might aspire to join”, man. Like a worker might “aspire to” have his benefits cut as a condition of continued employment.

  5. boo says:

    And exactly who would be surprised by this?

    • Anonymous says:

      Not I. Nor will I be surprised when nothing is done about it.

      • AirPillo says:

        All things considered there’s actually a lot more being done about it than is usual for a treaty negotiation. Several involved nations are vocally unhappy with the process and are pressuring for a change of pace. The public is also being given information about it in defiance of the US government’s wishes, and are contacting representatives with concerns which will likely have an effect upon the treaty’s contents.

        People are unhappy as hell with the way this went down, but people are actually doing something about it, so I wouldn’t be so cynical as to say this is just being done with complete impunity.

    • shadowfirebird says:

      I’m surprised that we have proof. Does that count?

  6. Phlip says:

    This reminds me of the Cold War treaty system, where any country that wants to befriend the mighty USA – and receive oodles of free money to ruin their politics…

    …must swear to oppress purveyors of mild recreational drugs.

    This is why, to this day, countries like the Netherlands have laws on their books declaring Cannabis illegal. Turning them into a nation of scofflaws.

    And it’s why organized crime in every country has more pernicious influence over their governments than the most bloodthirsty lobbyist.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Not that I am a fan of this particular treaty but I would point out the perils of underdogism i.e. the automatic assumption that the weaker party in a dispute is automatically morally superior.

    In this case, poorer countries are usually poor in the first place because they don’t have representative governments. When a poor country’s government is given an international voice, it is only the interest of the high political elites that get represented and not the interest of the country’s ordinary citizens. So, just because a process includes poor countries does not mean that poor people had a voice and just because a process excludes them doesn’t mean their best interest are not being pursued.

    Regardless of subject or intent, the vast majority of negotiations with 3rd world countries devolve into shake downs for the benefit of kleptocrats. The interest of the common people are simply used as a means of extortion for the benefit for people who are already among the planets wealthiest. Unfortunately, to many people in the developed world are more worried about being seen going through the motions of helping the poor and powerless than they are in actually helping them.

    For this reason, it’s real hard to get worked up about some negotiation just because the kleptocrats got excluded.

  8. Cowicide says:

    Hear ye! Hear ye! Let it be known to all that peruse this thread that boo is decidedly not surprised by these aforementioned so-called non-revelatory documentations of said screwjob.

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