Internet birthplace to be preserved for future generations

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  1. jaytkay says:

    I thought CERN invented the internet by developing the first web server…

    Yes, they created the WWW, but Internet does not equal World Wide Web. Email, for example, was running on the Internet before there was a WWW.

  2. pjcamp says:

    I hope they deleted the porn.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Hypertext existed long before Tim Berners-Lee created http, it just was used via text based terminals not graphical front ends.

    If we’re into preserving buildings, why not 10 Moulton St. in Cambridge, you know, the place the hardware was built (IMP). The software was only half of the solution :)

  4. schmittenhammer says:

    A friend of mine who became a multi-millionaire in electronics became very interested in electronics working in the psych lab at Kent State University. I remember going into the lab (very early 70′s) and seeing the old Nixy tube counters etc and being awe struck, having no idea of the revolution to come..

  5. tarabl says:

    punch cards

  6. tarabl says:

    sorry i meant…
    punch cards!

  7. Bloo says:

    @Anon – yes, JCL (or Job Control Language) is still in use. In fact, I use it to start the web server on the IBM mainframe at the place I work (and for many, many other uses). Though its syntax is not the friendliest, and it was invented to fit within 72 columns of an 80-column punched card (the other 8 columns were reserved for sequence numbering), JCL could be considered one of the orignal ‘script’ languages since its main purpose was to abstract file and control information out of programs – think of it as a proto-.bat .

  8. tamgoddess says:

    Can they please, please, please also include the geeks in the mod clothes? That is the best part.

    • DSMVWL THS says:

      Exactly what I was thinking. The nerds wearing bell bottoms, crazy facial hair, and coke-bottle glasses are as much a part of the history as the machines.

  9. yepmatt says:

    I don’t see Al Gore in the photo.

  10. codesuidae says:

    Hey, does anyone know what sort of plastic that is on top of the old metal desk?

    I’ve got that same model desk, but the plastic is looking pretty rough and I’d like to replace it with something similar.

    • dculberson says:

      I think most of the plastic topped desks in that era used Formica. You can still get a lot of the classic patterns from them! I think it was usually over a plywood substrate as the modern particle board (or “medium density fiberboard”) wasn’t in common use yet. The edges were usually banded with an aluminum backed rubber bumper. I had one desk with a really sweet profile on the rubber, and really cool aluminum drawer pulls, but unfortunately didn’t have room to move it into out of the last warehouse I moved from. Sigh.

  11. sn00py says:

    Brad Fidler did a cool video about his discovery in June, 2008. It *was* here.
    http://www.vimeo.com/943072
    But is no longer. The evidence is here.
    http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080618013440/http://www.vimeo.com/943072
    I would think this is an important video about this historic event, and should be part of the overall presentation. I think someone should ask Dr. Fidler to re-up that video. (Perhaps I will ask him myself!)

  12. Anonymous says:

    @codesuidae i was there on saturday and i can confirm that there was indeed no plastic on the top of that desk.

  13. Vik Solem says:

    I’d like to suggest that the Internet itself was actually born where it was built, at Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN) in Cambridge Mass. Perhaps its first words were spoken from its installation in California.

  14. Anonymous says:

    The door’s gone in the new photo. How did those people get in?

  15. Mr. Winka says:

    Spending most of my time in Boelter Hall as a CS&E undergrad, I thought it was the ugliest building at UCLA, but now I’m proud. I remember hearing about ARPANET, but never made the connection with that building.

  16. daen says:

    There’s something very odd about the guy standing to the left of the door, facing the camera. His hair looks like he’s just been electrocuted, and his pose says “wow, that was fun – let’s do it again!” …

  17. Anonymous says:

    Just look at it… crowded, fluorescent lights, humming electronics, geeky attendants. If the Internet had been born underwater in a sage smoke-infused teepee, surrounded by candles and love, we’d certainly be living in a different world.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Is it just me or does that second image look like it was taken in the Matrix?

  19. Anonymous says:

    I was about to get all sentimental and talk about how they were innocently working on something that didn’t know would change the world but then I saw this under the story.

    “Kathy Griffin Tweets Topless Photo of Herself!”

    Now I just want to go back in time and stop them.

  20. Anonymous says:

    That first photo looks suspiciously like a Dharma Initiative archive photo. Come to think of it… so does the second one.

  21. Zoman says:

    The white things at the top of the original picture look like a series of tu…. omg.

  22. Anonymous says:

    The guy next to the door, facing the camera, looks like Charlie Kline. Can anyone confirm this?

  23. tomfiglio says:

    What Al Gore actually said is: “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet”. Still pretty pompous and self-serving, especially since the Internet was already starting up before he was elected to Congress. This guy oozes groundless self regard.

  24. Anonymous says:

    I thought CERN invented the internet by developing the first web server, taking it from a radio switching network to what we recognize as the primordial ‘net.
    If they didn’t, what then did they invent again for the internet?
    it was something anyways…gotta look that up.

    • Anonymous says:

      CERN came up with the precursor to HTML, basically they created the concept of embedded links that could take you to a related place. The military created the first linked computers that could talk directly over dedicated lines – that is what this is all about.

      @The Unusual Suspect – Wrong about Gore: He would have been a disaster as a President. He took credit for his role in Congress, voting for a bill that gave out money with which defense contractors created the first linked up computers.

  25. The Unusual Suspect says:

    Yes, once again, of course Al Gore never said he *invented* the Internet. He said he *created* it. What’s more, he said he *took the inititive* to do so, meaning he claimed he was the first.

    You will remember (now that I am reminding you) that it was this claim of creating the Internet that caused the uproar in the media. It was a week or so later that the spin doctors on Gore’s presidential campaign committee issued their classic “non-denial denial” that he never claimed he *invented* anything.

    Oh, and incidentally, Gore also made the noob mistake of failing to distinguish between the Internet and the Web.

    Thanks for the money, Al. It was very helpful. And you would have made a much better president than Bush. But you never took the initiative in creating the Internet.

  26. Anonymous says:

    I’m pretty sure that the birth of the internet took place at CERN, in switzerland; along with the help of Tim Bernards-Lee: “On 25 December 1990, with the help of Robert Cailliau and a young student at CERN, he implemented the first successful communication between a Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) client and server via the Internet.”

    Wasn’t ARPANET just the source of TCP/IP? In which case you should be crediting the birth of the internet to Alexander Graham Bell; if all we’re considering is the basic principle of data being transfered over a distance.

    I know Americans love crediting themselves with inventing the internet, but I’m pretty sure it’s not actually true.

  27. silvo says:

    I agree on Charlie. Who are the other two guys? I spent many a night in this room working on my dissertation – remember photo-typesetters?

  28. silvo says:

    I recant, the photo-typsetter wasn’t in 3420, but it was in the room where the IMP was. 3420 is across the hall.

  29. droostring says:

    3420 Boelter? How exciting! I must have passed that room multiple times when I was an undergrad there.

  30. Dr DUH says:

    Yeah, Yeah – That’s where the internet was invented; If the pictures were bigger, You’d see that the Internet boxes (IMPs) were made by BBN in Cambridge, MA, were set up and run there before being sent out to CA so these folks could usurp the glory.

  31. Anonymous says:

    Spent many a late night at Boelter hall redoing those damn punch cards for a quick run. Anyone remember JCL.

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