Kindle Fire

Kindlefireeee This is the Kindle Fire. It's $200. Yes, it runs Flash.

Kindle Fire (Amazon)

"Playing with Fire: Amazon Launches a $200 Tablet, Slashes Kindle Prices" (Wired)


  1. Cough – looking forward to the Nook update next month.

    Actually, I hate reading on color devices. But still – worth mentioning that the Nook is going to be updated soon. People may want to hold off before an impulse buy.

    One word – ePub.

      1. No – it doesn’t – but you can convert it. Have you ever converted a book? Good luck on the formatting. I don’t have time for that either.

        The bottom line – Nook supports more formats. I happen to believe it is superior in many ways. I’ve never quite been able to understand the fascination with the Kindle (and I’m sure many of you Kindlers likewise for the Nook).

        I don’t even know why I’m having this conversation – I buy real books.

        1. Yes, I’ve converted books.  Hundreds of them.  It doesn’t even take a single click.  I just grab the book I want in Calibre and drag it to the “device” icon.  It knows what format the device wants and does the conversion.
          I have a Nook so I’m usually converting LIT or MOBI or TXT or PDF or LRF (whatever I originally bought the book in) to EPUB but it doesn’t really matter.

        2. I’ve found that I only have weird formatting issues when it started out with weird formatting. For the most part I just queue a bunch of stuff up on Calibre and go do something for 10-15 minutes. That being said, I wouldn’t buy one of those anyway.

  2. I see a lawsuit from Apple coming. Because Apple owns the rights to all stuff that resembles other stuff.

  3. I was excited about the new b&w kindles — $79 for the basic version, $99 for the touchscreen with wifi, and $149 for touchscreen with wifi & 3g.  But then I noticed that was the ad-supported version, and you have to add $30-$40 to those prices to avoid ads in the screen-saver and home screen.

    1. I have a current Gen Kindle (now know as Kindle Keyboard) without offers and my wife has one with them. The difference between them is so minor and the ads are so unintrusive that it’s worth it to just take the discount.

  4. Kaffenated is right that the Kindle won’t read ePub files natively.. and conversions can be a pain.  I’ve gotten quite proficient at it but wouldn’t even know where to begin telling, say, my mother how to do it.

    Kindle does support mobi and txt and pdf files.

    1. With Silk and ‘cloud acceleration’, Amazon just joined the Big Boys Club: the privileged few, like Google, Microsoft (Bing) and Facebook, who get to follow whatever you do on the web.

      I’m sure they’ll only use their new-found powers for good.

  5. Is this new portrait-optimized layout of Boing Boing in celebration of the Kindle Fire?  As computer monitors keep getting squatter and wider, and websites keep getting taller and narrower,  tablets will eventually be the only way to browse the web.

    1. At a quick guess I think the new and old boingboing both use a 960 grid.  i.e. the dimensions haven’t changed.  Without getting my pixel ruler out or anything anyway.

  6. The feature I noticed that was new to me was the ability to “check out” ebooks online from your local library.  At $79 the convenience of a kindle combined with the economy of a library seems like a really nice proposition.

  7. Mmm, so tempted.  The skinny li’l thing is just right for my style of reading: om nom consume and discard.  Don’t need fancy, don’t need keyboard, don’t need storage, just pile up a trilogy and go.  I’m sore tempted. 

  8. Actually, it doesn’t run Flash, they just render it on their servers and send it to you. Clever – if creepy – way to get around Flash being a real battery killer on anything not a Windows PC.

    1. They seriously render flash on their end, then forward the result to you?  If that’s the case, there’s no way they can claim it ‘runs’ flash?  You can’t really interact with an application that way…  Unless they’re somehow passing mouse coordinates, keyboard input, etc through by proxy and then rendering it at over 30fps, real-time.  I’m going to look this up, because that’s the oddest way to claim support for flash I’ve ever heard.

    2. Okay, I’m not finding any articles that suggest flash is rendered by proxy.  In fact, I’m only seeing articles claiming that the Kindle supports flash 10.

  9. Bah humbug. No love for those of us in Blighty, only some cheaper Kindle. Where’s Benedict Arnold when you need him?

    I guess my concern would be that there’s not that much onboard memory storage – only 8 GB – and there’s only wifi. Cumulatively that’s annoying because of the shortage of public wifi in the UK. Plus the lack of Amazon Prime movie streaming here.

  10. Kindle w/ Special Offers is actually worth FAR MORE than the one without.

    They have amazing coupons (like the recent 20% off Laptops on Amazon, where I got a brand new MacBook Air 20% off, no tax). That more than paid for the Kindle right there.

  11. Preordered mine. I already have a regular Kindle and I think I will still use that for reading books. I want the Fire as a web browsing device.

  12. Wouldn’t it be funny if books made a cheaper version that had ads printed on every page?

    No, I guess it wouldn’t be. 

  13. Can’t get to the Android Marketplace, so that probably means no Neftlix app.  I’d get one if I could use the Netflix app.

  14. waiting to hear all the hue and cry about amazon’s DRM, how there’s no keyboard, it’s all touchscreen, it’s LCD so it’s hard to read on, and how there’s no 3G, only wifi. oh, wait — you mean the rules people apply to apple don’t apply to anyone else’s product? interesting.

    1. They do apply, but nobody fully knows yet how restrictive the device will be.  Also, bear in mind, most of the people making those complaints about the iPad were people who owned/wanted an iPad.  The rest of us who were willing to wait around until the technology matured were only baffled at how people could pay so much for such a crippled device.

      The Fire doesn’t seem to be marketing itself as much more than a niche gadget, as opposed to ‘the future of computing’ or whatever nonsense people thought the iPad would be before it was confirmed as a niche gadget.  And, hey, this tablet is priced for what it does, and nobody’s asking $300 for the shiny apple on the back.

  15. Why does it need a flash when it doesn’t have a camera?

    …Oh, “Flash” as in Adobe Flash! Do people still write websites in Flash?

    Adobe Flash is not a selling point for me.

    1. …Oh, “Flash” as in Adobe Flash! Do people still write websites in Flash? Adobe Flash is not a selling point for me.

      This page alone already has three flash elements embedded in it. The videos in people’s comments and the Pocket Calculator video on the side.

      Oh yeah, YouTube videos are all flash… Flash doesn’t just mean poorly-designed websites.

      Unfortunately, until HTML5 video is mainstream (well, it has to even really exist first), all video on the web is going to be Flash or Silverlight or some other plugin. And even when HTML5 video is widespread, your mobile device will have to specifically support it.

       Sure, you could use your device’s “YouTube player app” or whatever, but for the rest of us, being able to support embedded video and other rich content is pretty important.

  16. It’s a device to consume (buy) content from the Amazon store.

    I doubt one could load your own ePubs, PDFs or MP3s, then again, you only have 8GB of storage.

    Lack of 3G undermines the idea of this being a cloud device that’s constantly in touch with the cloud.

    Do I really want to be reading a Conde Naste 8.5×11 magazine on a 7″ display?

    People whine about Apple’s closed garden…

  17. at what point are they just going to call this device the “Fahrenheit 451”?  frankly, all the burning imagery involved with the naming of this thing bothers me.

  18. The price point is just low enough that I’m considering getting one, trying it out, maybe giving it to my parents.  I have a Kindle (the second one, I believe, when they fixed the page-turning buttons), and I love it to pieces.  I still get dead-tree books nearly as often as I get ebooks these days, but for the most part I consume more “disposable” prose on the Kindle, and only buy real books when I think I’ll want to keep them.

    For daylight reading I prefer a Kindle to an LCD, and for nighttime reading in bed I just use the Kindle app on my Android (white text on black background is my preference, so as not to disturb the Mrs.), so I don’t really feel the need for a color e-reader, but again, this one’s price is low enough and its functionality seems just varied enough that I’m tempted.  I couldn’t justify ownership of an iPad, but this I can talk myself into.

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