Woman pees out of a moving San Francisco bus

At her Tumblr, Kelly Kate says: "HAPPY FUCKING NEW YEARS ASSHOLES, I JUST PEED OUT THE WINDOW OF A MOVING BUS." This image has generated many comments -- some funny, some offensive, some just plain predictable -- over at Mission Mission. (Thanks, Greg!)

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Seriously, this is what hits BoingBoing today? Some uncouth and crass girl peeing out of a window? Disgusting and sad…
- http://mordicai.livejournal.com Mordicai
  
  Seriously, I don’t think it is cute; I use public transportation, & I don’t want people…urinating out of it, in it, or around it. You know? I mean, maybe I’m a huge prude, I guess?
  - blueelm
    
    One would think people would be sensitive enough not to pee on each other, no? Sadly it is not the case.
    - http://mordicai.livejournal.com Mordicai
      
      We belong to an older, better world. Like the elves, our time here is done. What can we do against such reckless…peeing out of stuff?
- Antinous / Moderator
  
  Seriously, this is what hits BoingBoing today? Some uncouth and crass girl peeing out of a window? Disgusting and sad…
  
  Crass?
  
  The whole point of the story is that she’s the first person ever who didn’t pee inside the bus.
  - Pedantic Douchebag
    
    [citation needed]
  - DreamboatSkanky
    
    I also did not pee inside the bus.
    - Antinous / Moderator
      
      Pics or it did happen.
- Eddie Perkins
  
  In Boing Boing’s defense they did balance the two peeing posts with two pony posts.
  - hymenopterid
    
    Unicorn ponies no less.
- nick0
  
  ..Agreed 100%
  
  BOINGBOING 2012 = Gawker x Fleshbot x Lolcats
  
  WTF?
  Is this the type of stupid story that warrants a post on BoingBoing? Where do you draw the line.. maybe the next step is to upload stories about people vomiting in public places. I thought you guys were more intelligent than this crap.. looks like I’m going back to laughingsquid for my intellectual thirst quencher. Unless you have a web feature that allows me to block all future stories by David Pescovitz
  
  ps.. I hope you guys aren’t paying that carnival clown for diluting your websites good name
  - http://deansli.st/ Dean Putney
    
    You should follow my Tumblr cataloging my bowel movements.
    - social_maladroit
      
      That certainly does make one think of “Tumblr” in a new way.
  - Mark_Frauenfelder
    
    People in the street reported seeing a pair of very large lips drooling out the window.
  - cdh1971
    
    I PEED A BB!!
    
    DOODY!!! ON A STICK!!!
    
    TUMESCENCE!!!
  - Antinous / Moderator
    
    You’re going to love tomorrow’s photo feature: Dukey On Deck
  - Guest
    
    i’m sure you’re operating pro bono, nick0
- Mark_Frauenfelder
  
  Urine in the street is good for the urban ecosystem, as proven in experiments by Rupert Sheldrake
  - Guido
    
    I don’t pee on myself, I guess that’s why my morphogenetic fields never work
  - social_maladroit
    
    Good news. Now, where did you say you lived? We’ll gladly come over and help make your urban ecosystem better.
  - Richard
    
    Cite please !
- Guest
  
  Not at all. She can and will be fined and punished with due process, pretty much. She will be shamed, sure. But she got to do it. Nobody hurt. God Bless America. Move Along.
- UrbanUndead
  
  Hey, she’s not peeing IN the bus, which for our fair city’s stanky rolling biohazardmobiles is a significant dribble in the right direction!
  
  And don’t even get me started on the *GAG* cloth seats and carpeted train cars on BART…
- Ipo
  
  No, the post is about the image having generated many comments — some funny, some offensive, some just plain predictable — over at Mission Mission.
  Same as is happening here, predictably. I think urine a bad mood.
- grandmapucker
  
  Imagine what would happen if she had been playing ukelele while peeing
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZH5LQHHJPERMWNVHCR2Y5GRHHE Jose
    
    Playing ukulele AND holding a pony while peeing.
    
    “I’d buy that for a dollar!”
http://evilbobdayjob.blogspot.com/ Deidzoeb

Tell me if I’m using this Brit expression correctly. Are you taking the piss today with all these posts?
- someguyyouvenevermet
  
  Do you like being called a ‘Yank’ or maybe a ‘hoser’ ? Because that’s basically what you’ve done there. I think you mean ‘British’
  - Samuel Heath
    
    No, no. You’ve got that mixed up. Hoser is traditionally used for Canadians.
  - lu3ke
    
    Yeah, everyone knows the preferred nomenclature is “Goddamn lobsterback”
  - http://nelc.livejournal.com/ NelC
    
    As a Brit, I’ve no problem with being called a Brit. I’m not sure what my reason should be to object to it, really. Because it’s a diminutive of ‘Briton’? I don’t object to my friends using a diminutive of my name, and as long as it’s not done in a hostile way, I’ve no problem with random people on the Internet using ‘Brit’.
    - Ipo
      
      Plus Brit-ish sounds like you’re not really all the way Brit.
  - http://evilbobdayjob.blogspot.com/ Deidzoeb
    
    I had no idea that Brit had any negative connotation. I use that because I can never remember how many T’s are in British, Brittain, or Britannia.
    
    Setting aside that distraction, did I use the expression correctly: “Are you taking the piss today with all these posts?”
    - bklynchris
      
      MAN, I did not know that Brit was a pejorative either! I wonder if it was a result of that whole “sun never sets” thing….
      - http://evilbobdayjob.blogspot.com/ Deidzoeb
        
        I don’t see a lot of evidence that it is widely viewed as pejorative. Maybe it’s changing in that direction, I don’t know.
  - http://evilbobdayjob.blogspot.com/ Deidzoeb
    
    Come to think of it, I do call myself Yankee or Yank sometimes, usually when distinguishing myself from my Texan in-laws. It’s a little like “cracker,” a group that’s too dominant to feel very offended when traditionally oppressed people throw out a quaint nickname.
    
    Have Britons intended it as pejorative all these years when calling people “Yanks”? We’ll have no more of your confounded cheek.
http://doran.pacifist.net/ Doran

Yes, but is it art?
- Samuel Valentine
  
  I don’t know art, but I know what I like…
  
  Wait, what..?
- SomeGuyNamedMark
  
  But she did it herself so it falls under BB’s “do it yourself” theme.
- someguyyouvenevermet
  
  It’s art when there’s a urinal and no pee but not when there’s pee and no urinal.
- Guest
  
  Any chance there is a promo banner for an abstract art exhibit on the side of that bus?
Tyler Roy-Hart

it’s nice that you’re saving me the time it would take to go to /r/wtf on reddit…oh wait I don’t go there anymore
glatt1

Classy.
Richard

Yet another good reason to quit using public transport in the Bay area.
- http://www.mrericsir.com MrEricSir
  
  When it’s free, yes. When you actually have to pay, shit like this doesn’t happen often.
  - Antinous / Moderator
    
    MUNI’s not free.
    - http://www.mrericsir.com MrEricSir
      
      It was on NYE, hence drunkards behaving poorly.
      
      (And yes, this bus peeing incident took place on NYE if that wasn’t clear.)
      - blueelm
        
        I have seen people peeing and puking on the trains in Berlin, and that is certainly not free. I think this is actually a fairly common problem for public transportation TBH.
      - Antinous / Moderator
        
        Everything about that woman screams Fast Pass.
      - Symbiote
        
        But there’s not much stopping you getting on a train in Berlin without paying.
        
        In most British, American and Canadian cities I’ve seen, there are barriers in stations and bus drivers check tickets.
  - UrbanUndead
    
    Evidently you’re on a nicer line than some I’ve taken :D
- bluest_one
  
  It’s OK, you only have to do that when they start pissing IN to the bus.
danblondell

This headline is the new “man bites dog”
- Donald Petersen
  
  I dunno… feels like it should be altered from “woman pees” to “lady pees,” to correspond with BB headlines akin to “Gentleman wearing bra, panties charged with stabbing pygmy goat to death.”
  
  Perhaps “Gentlewoman pees”? Heavens, how do the classy types refer to themselves these days? I’m never certain anymore how to refer to the Quality.
  - danblondell
    
    “Lady pees” can only be read in my head with a thick, NY taxi-driver accent
  - http://nelc.livejournal.com/ NelC
    
    ‘Lady micturates’?
http://twitter.com/sfrazer Scott Frazer

This is reason I don’t go out drinking on amateur nights.
- Guest
  
  In this case driving on amateur night also seems inadvisable. At least past busses.
  - Ipo
    
    In a convertible for sure.
    Think of the peons!
http://twitter.com/pishabh pishabh

Hold on a second, this isn’t allowed in San Francisco? Then, can someone explain that special ‘aroma’ that pervades the city?
- http://twitter.com/lil_tuffy lil_tuffy
  
  That’s the Eucalyptus tress. They smell like bum pee.
  - Antinous / Moderator
    
    It’s so true. I lived by GG Park and the whole neighborhood smelled like cat pee.
Charles H.

Christ, what an asshole.
- Mujokan
  
  You saw the bus go past, huh?
http://www.disoriented.net/ angusm

In the future, everyone can be infamous for fifteen minutes.
Ed Hawkes

Is this the new thing now? Tebowing jumped the shark so the it crowd is pissing out windows all over the place? Harumph.

Irregardless, I bet she can’t write her name in the snow like I can. Powned!
- http://twitter.com/lil_tuffy lil_tuffy
  
  “Irregardless” isn’t a word.
  - http://twitter.com/davidlrattigan David L Rattigan
    
    What is it then?
    - Ipo
      
      Irregardless is an informal term commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since it first appeared in the early twentieth century.
    - http://evilbobdayjob.blogspot.com/ Deidzoeb
      
      A malapropism.
blueelm

I sense a trend here today. It’s ok, it’s not that twisted of a fetish.
Mujokan

I would maybe have done this sort of thing when I was 18 and drunk off my gourd. Luckily video cameras back then were the size of phonebook and cost a fortune, so I could’ve just forgotten about the whole thing after the hangover wore off.

Eh heh heh, of course she likes that Azealia Banks song… I would’ve been in love with her in high school.
knoxblox

I’m just glad she wasn’t in my Pedi-Cab. I’d have tipped her out of it and left her in the street.

Losing your shoes or falling out of the cab is one thing, but urine?
plondon

Someone also peed on a painting. Is this some new BB theme?
- http://jere7my.livejournal.com jere7my
  
  They’re expanding the term “maker” to include those making water. And asses of themselves.
Gemma

That’d be so much easier with a SheWee.
m m

Zef to Def
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UX5ARLLFQVJADUHIEOI5OTKH3I k

it could have been MUCH worse…………
Eddie Perkins

Granted it’s been many years since I’ve last been in SF but isn’t this a typical day riding Muni?
gregarious

BB more like PP today
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QN6WUG7WMBDAGUPFVSJ6HJAS2A Darth

Sad. And Tumblr gives idiots such as this (and even encourages such behavior in some people) a platform.
http://www.mrericsir.com MrEricSir

Here’s a sketch of the incident from the outside of the bus:
http://uptownalmanac.com/2012/01/police-sketch-artists-release-graphic-mug-shot-munis-most-wanted
PathogenAntifreeze

Dearest Boing Boing Editors: Don’t accept the near universal condemnation of this article as representative of the whole of the Boing Boing readership. I, and my consort, both issued the LOLs upon seeing this article. Some of us appreciate absurdity, and this qualifies.
- Donald Petersen
  
  I seem to remember Ozzy Osbourne once crapped in a swanky hotel elevator. It may have been a self-reflexive dadaist comment on his own nouveau-riche status viewed in light of his humble Birmingham upbringing, or it might have been a lighthearted prank by a gleeful antiauthoritarian rock & roll scamp.
  
  Perhaps we should ask the janitor tasked with cleaning it up.
  - Antinous / Moderator
    
    The thing is – people piss in the street in SF every day. Thousands of times. They just don’t blog it. It’s not like the street isn’t already awash in human effluvia.
    - Donald Petersen
      
      Oh, no question. I’ve whizzed in a San Diego alley myself. If I hold the moral high ground here, it’s only insofar as I wasn’t hanging my wang out a bus window, spraying the windshields and uncovered heads of passers-by, and turning my fellow passengers’ evening commute into a forced watersports sideshow. Riding the bus is hell enough without someone deliberately using it as a restroom for her own laffs.
      
      The act itself was the reprehensible part. Blogging about it was just childish and stupid and pretty much par for the course for the Internet.
    - blueelm
      
      Truth. This is the nature of any city where public toilets are at a premium. Most people try to be discreet, but honestly this is actually probably not the most dangerous or nasty fluid your feet are walking over. Isn’t there, like, an entire blog devoted to pics of people peeing in SF streets anyway?
- Guest
  
  I appreciate the juxtaposition of the damage done, and outrage over, urination on the outside of a $500K bus v a $30M painting.
  
  But of course, it’s just a poop joke.
hadlockk

Stay classy, Boing Boing

In my sailing career, I’ve seen more than my fair share of this sort of thing (except whatever ends up on the side of the vehicle is washed away by the ocean)

Seriously, this is a new low for you guys.
- Guest
  
  New around here, huh?
  - http://deansli.st/ Dean Putney
    
    To the brink, I say!
SomeGuyNamedMark

All I have to say is SHE’S A LADY!
MarcVader

Urine a good mood today?
Christopher Locke

On a scale of one to ten… You’reaneight.
i_prefer_yeti

At a minimum this young lady has started a stream of discussion!
- Mujokan
  
  She shines out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark.
jasoncstone

PCAST meets tomorrow.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/pcast/meetings
Eddie Perkins

In before a lame pun about yellow journalism?
Editz

http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12609/12911696.jpg
Halloween Jack

She’s done this before, as documented here and here.

And, honestly, if you’re at all outraged by this or even particularly surprised, then I guess you haven’t been acquainted with the internet very long. The sad thing is that she seems to be aware on some level of being an attention junkie who’s probably going to regret all this, much sooner than she might think, but people keep giving her fixes of what she craves.
- PapayaSF
  
  who’s probably going to regret all this
  
  Around the time a prospective employer Googles her.
  - neverironically
    
    She already got fired from The Summit for posting too many pictures of herself doing Whippets.
  - ultranaut
    
    I’d hire her if she agreed not to pee out her office window
- SomeGuyNamedMark
  
  Maybe when the cops pepper spray her nether regions she’ll stop.
Craig Meyer

NOT bride material.
- Anon Ymous
  
  I disagree.
Mister44

Stay Classy, lady.
Teller

Awesome! I’m getting a THX KELL vanity plate for my Hummer.
JamesMcDaniel

This post caused me to learn something about Boing Boing’s moderation policy, available here http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html, that other commenters might also want to know:

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- technogeekagain
  
  It’s their blog. If they want to make asses of themselves, that’s their Internet-given right.
  
  On the other hand, if they actually want people to read what they’re writing, they might want to keep at least half an eye on the reaction from the readership, so they know when they’ve become more annoying than entertaining and can make an informed decision on what to do about that.
  
  Post what you like, BB. But if you want us to applaud the good stuff, you really should accept us booing the less-than-inspiring.
  
  As far as the post itself goes: As with most drunken-idiot posts, she’s going to regret that next time she goes for a job interview. Employers DO websearch applicants these days, and with archiving anything posted even briefly is probably still available.
  - Guest
    
    and if you want to opine at length on your distate for the free ice cream, it’s also your prerogative to be exactly that wrong about who is being an ass.
    
    To be clear, it’s the lady halfway out the bus, and you.
    - technogeekagain
      
      De gustibus.
http://marjaerwin.livejournal.com/ Marja Erwin

Did the bus station shut down it’s bathrooms? That kind of thing isn’t uncommon, and that kind of thing might encourage this kind of thing. I haven’t had to resort to these measures, but I have had a lot of trouble with local buses and subways, and there are many health problems [affecting the bladder and/or the kidneys] which cause even more trouble.
- jimh
  
  There aren’t bus stations for muni per se, unless you count the Market Street light rail underground. And those do not have public restrooms. There aren’t really very many public restrooms in SF unless you are a paying customer. Bushes, sidewalks, and apartment building entryways are quite popular.
  - http://marjaerwin.livejournal.com/ Marja Erwin
    
    “There aren’t really very many public restrooms in SF unless you are a paying customer.”
    
    Then maybe there should be more of this, until there are more of the restrooms. It’s a necessary bodily function. It may be easy for most men to find someplace, but it is harder for most womyn, and it adds up when you have to find a restroom, or *someplace* every two hours. Or when someplace won’t do.
    - jimh
      
      Preaching to the choir, Marja. I don’t think the lack of restrooms was entirely to blame for this woman’s exhibitionism, but it is a problem in SF. Business owners often deny people use of the facilities, especially in certain neighborhoods.
  - HeadInTheFog
    
    Well, we do have those restrooms that look like newspaper stands that people sell crack out of. I think there was even an intervention episode about them.
- Donald Petersen
  
  I kinda doubt that was the issue. Seems like the sort of local bus you hop on at a streetcorner bus stop. She just thought it would be funny to hang her fanny out the window and take a leak after an evening of carousing. It’s hardly the most reprehensible act imaginable, but it’s selfish and rude and inconsiderate while trying to be outrageously funny.
  
  People who really gotta go through no fault of their own usually hesitate to post pictures of themselves publicly whizzing on their blogs. With or without the middle finger.
sparkdale

Man I hate Vice Magazine.
Mister44

Men want a lady in the street, and a freak in the bed – not the other way around.
- Anon Ymous
  
  Because all women should give a damn what stereotypical men want, right?
  - Mister44
    
    “Lighten up, Francis.”
- bumpngrindcore
  
  The 20th century called – they want their values back.
Mitch_M

I’m a taxi driver and OMFG I AM SO GLAD I DIDN’T WORK NEW YEARS EVE AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS KINDA SHIT!
http://twitter.com/EsElQueso Adam Gillitt

Methinks we need a special pubic transport system for the likes of her.
- Jason Baker
  
  You forgot the ‘l’ in… oh, I see what you did there. Clever!
Stahlbrand

One hopes to read the story where she is fined in accordance with the law in the near future, given the photographic and social evidence of the offence.
- technogeekagain
  
  Actually, there isn’t photographic evidence. From this shot, she can claim she was faking it for the camera, and that might indeed have been the case.
  
  Frankly, I’m a lot more impressed with the young lady who, upon realizing that the entire male population of the donut shop (including the obligatory cops) was covertly admiring her, sashayed out to her boyfriend’s car, got in — and briefly mooned the crowd before departing. That’s a social statement. This is just alcohol and bad judgement.
cdh1971

I see…
AirPillo

Am I the only one who, when they see a post like this, immediately skips to reading all the snarky comments?
- hymenopterid
  
  Just the only one willing to admit it.
- blueelm
  
  I thought that was the point of these posts?
lostinutah

So?
Palomino

Deleted~
pjcamp

Congrats.

I just posted a picture of your poonanny on Flickr.

Thanks for playing.
Maudlin_P_Rumsot

I think the big issue here is that on the site which this article originated there are people calling for violence and demeaning her gender for having the audacity to be too drunk and unable to hold her bladder on a late-night New Year’s Eve bus ride home. That’s not cool.
- blueelm
  
  Yeah I do agree that the calls for raping her are a bit… uh… psychotic. What is wrong with people that they actually don’t think seeing a logical connection between “woman did something annoying” and “rape that bitch in the ass!!!!” is a sign of serious mental damage in themselves? Or I guess therein lies the answer :/
social_maladroit

Woman pees out of a moving San Francisco bus

In a word, gross.
Palomino

I was a public transit driver and I’m happy to see this, it’s better than peeing in the bus, right next to a pile of fried chicken bones.

1. Only recently, in the long history of trains, waste went right onto the tracks.
2. Blue Ice a.k.a Brown Goo from passenger jets.
3. Astronauts wear diapers.
4. America needs to get over it’s disgust of the one thing everyone has in common. (Angelina Jolie pees and Brad Pitt shits, OH NO!)
5. Public toilets for everyone!
- http://deansli.st/ Dean Putney
  
  What!? They’re supposed to be smooth down there. Like Barbie dolls!
sun0ramen

At least she wasn’t playing a goddamn ukelele.
- JamesMcDaniel
  
  … while wearing a pair of steampunk goggles that she Made using an open-source 3D printer.
  - Ian Anthony
    
    …at an Occupy rally.
  - StewieC
    
    “At least she wasn’t playing a goddamn ukelele.”
    
    “… while wearing a pair of steampunk goggles that she Made using an open-source 3D printer.”
    
    Those are the funniest two comments I’ve ever seen on the Internet. Nice work!
trouserarousal

Sometimes you just have to pee out the window.
modusoperandi00

I, for one, will never look at that navigator scene in Dune the same way.
Antinous / Moderator

You should see what happens on the bus if you go to BaitBus.
http://twitter.com/scottyboyswa2 scottyboyswa2

Stay classy…
blueelm

After looking at her site I have to ask “who the hell snorts xanax?”
- Antinous / Moderator
  
  I’ve snorted thorazine. That’s worse.
  - bklynchris
    
    Dude, really? What happened?
    - Antinous / Moderator
      
      Slept through a dentist appointment. And a couple more days after.
  - Guest
    
    whatwhatwhat
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefan_e_jones/ Stefan Jones

I demand a peeing unicorn chaser.
http://goodsharer.com/ Aloisius

Am I the only one that is impressed by such a feat?

The bus was moving, she was drunk and seemingly fully clothed (including stockings somehow). It took some real skill to hang out there and pee without falling out or showing everyone on the bus her business.
- blueelm
  
  1) I love your name
  2) I am also impressed. I don’t completely understand. Is she peeing through the tights? Is this something shorter women can do while the rest of us have to worry about those things snapping down to our ankles like rubber bands? I kind of feel like I need to know, but I likely never will.
  - Donald Petersen
    
    Enlightenment comes from her own post on Mission Mission:
    
    Here’s the facts. On NYE I was on a packed 33 home with a bunch of friends. Next stop wasn’t for a good 15 minutes, and was on Haight Street, where there are no public bathrooms. I was drunk, joking with friends, and decided to pee out a bus window. I did not pee on the bus, on myself, or on anyone else. I hoped up, lowered my panties and tights, peed out the window onto the street, and pulled my tights back on.
    
    Yer welcome.
  - Guest
    
    Another option: is she even actually peeing?
  - http://goodsharer.com/ Aloisius
    
    1. Thanks!
    
    2. Best guess is she was bending forward enough that you couldn’t see she had her tights down around her bum.
wrybread

God this poor woman. First pilloried on Mission Mission blog, now on BoingBoing. Sheesh.

Its just a goofy prank. She’s an avid blogger, creating her own photo op. No one got hurt or even pissed on, as far as anyone knows. And its not like she does this every morning on her morning commute.

So many people here need to lighten up a bit. But I guess the reactions are to be expected when even a post about someone playing a song on a NYC subway manages to offend some people.
sam

It’s interesting to see the contrast between this girl on the muni and the singing girl on the subway through their personal blogs.
peterkvt80

This is very impressive. I’ve never seen a bus with windows that open like that. Clearly USA coach building technology is far advanced of our bus fleet.
edit: I see that is actually an emergency exit with the handle pulled. That should have set off a loud alarm in the driver’s cab.
http://www.craiglotter.co.za/ Craig Lotter

Classy.
bumpngrindcore

Wow, when a guy does this it’s called “Jackass”, when a girl does it she gets rape and death threats.

I highly doubt you guys commenting here would all be remarking on how not classy this is if it was a dude. Hypocritical much? Or just plain sexist double standards?
- https://twitter.com/misterjayem MrJM
  
  I highly doubt you guys commenting here would all be remarking on how not classy this is if it was a dude.
  
  Well, you are simply wrong.
  - bumpngrindcore
    
    Well, good to know you can read the minds of all the people commenting on this post then. Great to see Professor X on Boing Boing.
    - Graham Williams
      
      So you “highly doubt” something, he contradicts you, and you snark about his apparently telepathy? What about yours?
      
      You’re painting with just as wide a brush. Knock it off.
- Donald Petersen
  
  I highly doubt you guys commenting here would all be remarking on how not classy this is if it was a dude. Hypocritical much? Or just plain sexist double standards?
  
  If it were a guy pissing out a window, nobody at all would be thinking it’s remotely cute or clever or funny. But because it’s a reasonably cute girl, it’s seen as bravely transgressive or devil-may-care or something.
  
  The double standard, if any, would be coming from her supporters who might laugh to see her do it, but would recoil in revulsion if, say, I did it. The rape and death threats (such as they were) are not only an overreaction but also vile and unforgivable. Also the kind of thing you hear from 13-year-olds on Xbox Live, which certainly doesn’t make it remotely okay, but reinforces the conventional wisdom that plenty of anonymous commenters need to have some sense and manners beaten into them (in a spiritual sense, of course).
  
  I’m going to go out on a slender, splintery limb here, supported only by my stout assertion that nobody who gets raped or beaten is “asking for it.” The thing is, someone who performs a socially transgressive act (like, say, pissing out a bus window), gets photographed doing it while flipping the bird, and then posts it on her blog with the charming message, “HAPPY FUCKING NEW YEARS ASSHOLES, I JUST PEED OUT THE WINDOW OF A MOVING BUS,” is kind of picking a fight. Not a literal one, not one involving fisticuffs and broken bottles and being shoved out of that selfsame window. But neither is it a cheery “Merry Christmas, God bless us, every one!” She provoked a reaction with her words. And by gum she got a reaction, also made up of words. Her words were nasty. Lots of the words she received were nasty. I kinda doubt that walking down the street is any more dangerous for her today than it was a week ago, but who am I to judge that? I am not surprised that her provocative post has not brought out the best in people, nor am I surprised that (so far at least) all the invective she has received has been much like her original post: pixels on a screen, not intended to be representative of actual, in-person, physical conversation.
  
  Where the messages differ comes down to the nature of threats. There’s no real law against being an asshat, but there are laws against threatening people, and with good reason. Someone flipping me off and calling me an asshole (especially someone who’s randomly doing it at a camera and not aiming it specifically at anyone in particular) is not going to make me fear for my life and well-being. Someone saying they want to push me out a window or shove used syringes into my orifices, however, would make me a bit more nervous. Maybe more than a bit. So those people deserve to be harangued, if not arrested.
  
  But there’s something more than a little disingenuous about her being offended by everyone else who was offended by her original post.
https://twitter.com/misterjayem MrJM

When you treat your community like a toilet, you should not be surprised that others treat you like a turd.
- bumpngrindcore
  
  Dude, the girls gettin’ more flak than a mugger, rapist or child molester would get…aren’t THEY the ones ruining their community?
  
  Yeah, it’s gross and immature. But serisously, y’all need to take your pearl clutching and hand-wringing where it’s needed.
  - bklynchris
    
    If this is indeed the case, that is sad. However, I can personally attest, when you are being provocative, you have little control of where your audience will go with your material.
  - PapayaSF
    
    the girls gettin’ more flak than a mugger, rapist or child molester would get
    
    You have zero evidence for that, and nobody would be making excuses for a mugger, rapist or child molester. (Well, since it’s Boing Boing, someone might make excuses for a mugger, but that’s all.)
    
    She is getting some extra flak (though not more than a mugger etc.) because she’s being intentionally, aggressively, proudly anti-social, and because she should know better.
http://twitter.com/the_turtle The Turtle 

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
http://halfbakedmaker.org Robert Baruch

I thought we liked makers around here?
http://www.facebook.com/Elrando.the.Wonderhorse Matthew Gardner

My first reaction: “That’s a bit nasty”
My second reaction: “Whatever, I’ve done questionable things while off my face as well”

So yeah, it’s a bit gross, and if you’re a bit disgusted it’s understandable. But those taking genuine offence to this and calling for her head should probably get over themselves.
emo hex

See you on Assbook.
bklynchris

You know what? Is she not the living embodiment of Billie Holiday’s “Summertime”?

Summertime and the livin’ is easyFish are jumpin’ and the cotton is high
Oh, your daddy’s rich and your ma is good lookin’
So hush little baby, don’t you cry

One of these mornings, you’re goin’ to rise up singin
‘Then you spread your wings and you’ll take the sky
But ’til that mornin’, there’s nothin’ can harm you
With daddy and mammy standin’ by

Because, nothing says trust fund w/ an inappropriate relationship with father and drop dead gorgeous absent MICA mother like this chick does.
Ian Anthony

Can anyone who has ever read and enjoyed a Kerouac novel really condemn her?
http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Moser/100002719228612 John Moser

Unlike some, at least she isn’t crapping on a sidewalk.
- Antinous / Moderator
  
  Must. Not. Post. Pink Flamingos link.
http://twitter.com/allthecuteshit Ariel

http://cuteshitallthetime.tumblr.com/post/15426566144/in-defense-of-kelly-kate-peeing-out-windows-and
- Donald Petersen
  
  I think it’s hard to disagree with the fact that this would not have been anywhere near as big of a deal if this were a man.
  
  Nope, it’s pretty easy to disagree with that part right there.
mccrum

At least she’s not making that stupid duck face I see all over photos these days.
blueelm

All American women are broken because one is on the internet doing something stupid? I think what’s broken is your sense of perspective.