Oatmeal Spells F U in Money Shots

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  1. Xeni Jardin says:

    Huh! I am only familiar with the use of the term “money shot” as a synonym for jizz. +1 informative.

    Anyway, more to the point: what a fucking mensch this guy is, and what a photograph and what a wonderful end to a bizarre tale.

    • Glenn’s got a full set at flickr, embedding in juuuust a mo

    • teapot says:

      lol. I don’t believe “money shot” refers to the actual jizz. It refers to the framing and composition of the shot in which the jizz (or whatever) features.

      I hope my colleagues don’t immediately think of this when I use the phrase, though I do like and use it because of how seedy it sounds.

      • Antinous / Moderator says:

        Urban Dictionary seems to overwhelmingly support the Spooge Hypothesis.

        • teapot says:

          Collective miseducation is still miseducation nonetheless :)

          http://www.filmsite.org/filmterms13.html

          • Jim Saul says:

            I once found it hilarious when I heard Andrea Mitchell use the term “down to the short strokes” in describing the last days of an election.

            Please don’t ruin it by telling me that’s really a golf term.

          • Antinous / Moderator says:

            But that’s derived from porn. In the porn context, it still seems to refer to spunkage.

          • MB44 says:

            No. It’s splooge.

          • @antinous

            I’m pretty sure in the porn context it refers to the shot that involves the splooge, hence money ‘shot’, it wouldn’t even make sense if it were used to describe splooge itself.

          • clarkie604 says:

             It doesn’t really matter what filmsite.org says money shot means, if everyone thinks it means something else.  Mrs. May in junior English class always said “words don’t mean – people do”.  In language, when everyone is “miseducated” the language changes.

        • eselqueso says:

          Spooge Hypothesis was my favorite band in college.

          • Pope Ratzo says:

             Money Shot was my favorite band.  But you didn’t want to be within 5 feet of the stage.  You just didn’t.

          • Jerril says:

             @PopeRatzo:disqus : Have you ever been to a Rammstein concert? They used to have this routine involving a prosthetic penis, trick pants, some well concealed tubing, and diluted skim milk…

            Then there was An Incident in Australia where the tubing clogged at exactly the WRONG moment for the lead singer, and they quietly dropped that sketch.

          • Jerril says:

            @PopeRatzo:disqus  Disqus appears to have eaten my post. Short version: Have you ever been to a Rammstein concert?

            EDIT: AAaaand now my post reappears. Sigh.

          • Antinous / Moderator says:

            Disqus has been malfunctioning since yesterday. Comments just sort of come and go at random.

      • DreamboatSkanky says:

        Extra points for “how seedy”.

      • Finnagain says:

        You said ‘seedy’.

    • I’ve never heard ‘mensch’ used in this way before; in fact, the word seems to have positive connotations. Or at least its normal meaning :) Can someone enlighten me as to this usage?

    • johnny cheesedaug says:

       How about a cookie shoot?  It could even be an Oatmeal ooky cookie.   Eww.
      As others have said, at least this is hopefully the last we will read about either party involved.

  2. And Matthew has his own post here: http://theoatmeal.com/blog/charity_money

  3. PhosPhorious says:

    Inman’s responses get epic-er and epic-er!

  4. avocadotoe says:

    With all due respect: it’s philarctia that trumps douchebaggery. 

    Free bear hugs!

  5. mysterymoil says:

    Matt Inman is a national treasure.

  6. Kommkast says:

    Cant think of a better thing to do with this money than draw with it and give it to charity.

  7. Alex Herlan says:

    Is that how indiegogo actually works?  They hand over the money to you in cash, and then its up to you to hand it over to the charities?  Huh….. hmmm…. eh?  uhh… Is there any accountability involved? I need to start me an IndieGoGo campaign.

    Also, does he get to write this off on his taxes as a charitable donation?

    • If he deducts it as a charitable donation, he has to declare it as income.

      • I’m not convinced that is the case, but I’m not an accountant. In the case of Karen Klein, the “bullied bus monitor,” a commenter on her IndieGoGo said that as long as each individual contribution was underneath the annual limit on a person’s gift-giving ($12k I think?), no taxes needed to be paid. And if taxes did have to be paid, in the case of a gift, it was the giver of the gift who had to pay the taxes, not the receiver.

        Again, IANA(ccountant), but that’s what someone who claims to be an accountant said.

        • Antinous / Moderator says:

          $13K annual limit.

        • Warren_Terra says:

          Disclaimer: I’m not an accountant, nor a tax lawyer – but I’ve read at least one of these threads.

          If he declares it as income, he may (or may not) be able to deduct it as a charitable donation (there can be limits to this). If his income is moderate, declaring this much income and then deducting it would certainly land him in trouble RE the Alternative Minimum Tax (which basically says that if you’ve got a declared income above a certain threshold and an effective tax rate on that declared income that’s too low, you owe a lot more tax) – but it was asserted in another thread that he actually makes quite a lot of money, so maybe this isn’t an issue. It is however possible that he doesn’t really make all that much money as net income, but rather this includes all the receipts from book sales and the like, with a large part of this gross income balanced with business expenses. 
          He may be able to neither declare the money as income nor deduct it from his taxable income, by saying the money was never truly his, he was just conveying it to the charities. This might also make it possible for the donors to deduct their charitable donations, which might be problematic if he were to declare it as income, as he is not an accredited charity.
          If he doesn’t declare the money as income, there is no way he can conceivably claim the donation as a tax deduction – you can’t give away what you never legally had.

      • How can he not declare it as income if, right now, he has withdrawn it from a bank and stuffed it into a duffel bag?

        • Antinous / Moderator says:

          Why not? Having worked for many non-profits, cash is quite common.

        • dantobias says:

           Actually, the money he photographed was actually his own money, withdrawn from his own bank account, so there’s no income to declare there; it’s money he already had (and presumably paid taxes on) just transferred into a different form. The money he received in the campaign ended up being sent directly to the charities in order to avoid legal issues.

          • Details in the story. Indiegogo disbursed some directly, but Inman collected some via PayPal linked to the Indiegogo account, which he then paid out through checks directly. I am not an accountant, either, but he may owe taxes on the money he received directly, and then use a charitable deduction of the same amount.

        •  He also returned it to the bank.

        • lynda f says:

          He won’t be declaring anything. He withdrew his own money to take the photos, and will be returning it to the bank. The ‘real’ money is on it’s way to the charities. He already said he will be providing receipts from said charities, to prove his intent.  Carreon can eat his shorts. And everyone elses.

    • Alex, that’s how most fundraisers work. You hand your money to someone collecting on behalf of a charity and trust that it makes it’s way there. Like at the grocery store when they ask you to donate a dollar to yada yada save the flarps. Or when you buy candy bars from some kid. The list goes on and on. 

      • Bonobo says:

        The flarps are a very important cause. They are made of furry flippers so it can be very difficult to navigate from breeding ground to breeding ground over hard stone. For just $40, you can save a flarp by buying it gloves.

    • Jonnelle Rein says:

      Inman had IndieGogo send money directly to the charities that users paid to IndieGogo on credit/debit cards. 

      Other funds were sent directly to Inman from people who used paypal on IndieGogo to check out. That money was delivered to his attorney in 2 checks the week the fundraiser ended.

      All of that was explained to Mr. Carreon days upon days before his “emergency” temporary restraining order was filed. The judge was likely to dismiss it as moot as the money was already on its way to the charities when Carreon filed his TRO.

    • Wil Hutton says:

      IndieGoGo is not a *charity* fundraising website.  They presumably have some process where they vet people wishing to start campaigns. If you read their TOS:

      2. You will be required to designate the legal entity to which funds will be directed (the “Project Entity”). By providing the name of your Project Entity to Indiegogo, you represent and warrant that you are an authorized representative of the Project Entity with the authority to bind the Project Entity to the terms of this Agreement, that the Project Entity is the legal entity responsible for the Project and accountable for the use of any funds raised for it on Indiegogo, and that you accept this Agreement on the Project Entity’s behalf. 3. To receive Contributions, your Project Entity must establish an account (a “Funding Account”) with the payment processor designated by Indiegogo at the time you post your Project (the “Processor”). You understand and agree that your Funding Account will be governed by your agreement with the Processor, and that Indiegogo shall have no liability for your Funding Account or your transactions or interactions with the Processor.  

      and:

      It is solely your choice to contribute to a Project. You understand that making a Contribution to a Project does not give you any rights in or to that Project, including without limitation any ownership, control, or distribution rights, and that the Project Entity shall be free to solicit other funding for the Project, enter into contracts for the Project, allocate rights in or to the Project, and otherwise direct the Project in its sole discretion. You further understand that nothing in this Agreement or otherwise limits Indiegogo’s right to enter into agreements or business relationships relating to Projects. Indiegogo does not guarantee that any Project’s Campaign Goal will be met. Any Perks offered to you are between you and the Project Entity only, and Indiegogo does not guarantee that Perks will be delivered or satisfactory to you. Indiegogo does not warrant the use of any Project Funding or the outcome of any Project. 

      and:

      Indiegogo makes no representations regarding the deductibility of any Contribution for tax purposes. Please consult your tax advisor for more information.

  8. yupgiboy says:

    The “money shot” is the shot in a movie that would bring people to the theater with their cash in hand. The money maker. The ‘climax’ of the movie. It’s not exclusive to porn. Exploitation filmmakers also used that term. The reveal of a monster at the end of a film or gore scenes are also money shots, as are shots of girls taking their tops off.

  9. Happler says:

    Post monster ate it. this is in response to teapot.

    That still does not give the porno description, only that it was pulled from porn.

    Go with Stephen Ziplow’s deffinition:
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0058172/

    (pulled from wiki, and the book)
    According to Stephen Ziplow, author of The Film Maker’s Guide to Pornography , “…the cum shot, or, as some refer to it, ‘the money shot’, is the most important element in the movie and that everything else (if necessary) should be sacrificed at its expense.”

  10. Soren Schonbachler says:

     This shit is so cash.

  11. Warren_Terra says:

    If only the comics were nearly as good as this saga of comeuppance they’ve led to …

  12. elix says:

    What will the new dawn bring?

    Rob! Why did you have to ask that? Because ths is the answer: Rapeutation.com. On Carreon’s new venture, he posts a music video written lovingly for The Oatmeal, talks about the problem about being butthurt over evil people on the internet who dare criticise him, and rambles about sweeping, oppressive, and unconstitutional laws to allow him to sue anyone he doesn’t like.

    Bonus: Features the acronym “Distributed Internet Reputation Attack” to describe what most of us would call “comment threads” and “justifiable criticism of someone who is clearly trying to abuse the legal system because he was offended.”

  13. SpaceBeers says:

    Has there been any response from Carreon yet?

  14. jennybean42 says:

    Ken over at Popehat said that he was going to allow Indiegogo to donate the money directly to charity and use his own money for the pictures.
    “Or perhaps Carreon believes he achieved victory because the cash Mr. Inman photographed was technically his own funds, not the funds he raised and forwarded to worthy charities. If this is what Mr. Carreon needs to live with himself, I say we let him cherish it. Oh, very well done, Mr. Carreon.”

  15. Jorpho says:

    Maybe I’ve seen too many Pez videos, but I kind of want to see the bundles dancing around the floor in stop-motion animation.

  16. ncm says:

    This is awkward, because I’ve been meaning to mention this for some time, and I’m sorry I waited.

    You see, the American Cancer Society has, by overwhelming report, been taken over by a bunch of thieving scumbags who pay themselves “executive”-level salaries and lunch all afternoon on the contributions of well-meaning folks like yourselves.   It’s easy to google up the reputation of the ACS among those who pay attention to such matters.  When last I checked the ACS was collecting over $700M each year, and spending almost all on “overhead”.

    (This phenomenon is a distressingly frequent problem with well-known charities, obvious in retrospect: once “volunteers” achieve control of an organization, they can begin milking it.  Most often the culprit is a direct-mail vendor, who then ensures that receipts mostly just pay for overpriced mailers.)

    Please give the money to the American Cancer Institute, instead, which seems actually to spend it on something besides collecting more.  Stuff like research and, you know, patients?

    Full disclosure: I have never had any knowing contact with the American Cancer Society or Institute or their respective employees and associates, but my grandfather died of cancer before I was born.

    • elix says:

      You see, the American Cancer Society has, by overwhelming report, been taken over by a bunch of thieving scumbags who pay themselves “executive”-level salaries and lunch all afternoon on the contributions of well-meaning folks like yourselves.

      [citation needed]

      And the onus is on you to find citations, not tell us to Google it. That being said, there has been documented corruption in large charities like this, so it wouldn’t surprise me.

    • Highly inaccurate information, easily factchecked by a visit to Charity Navigator. The ACS raised nearly $950m in 2011 and spent $700m on program expenses. It has a ridiculous amount of cash on hand, and it is very inefficient relative to fundraising ($200m in fundraising to bring in $950m is relatively terrible, but not criminal). There was a report in 1999 that criticized it heavily, and I can find articles that are full of venom (and not in publications I’m aware of) that talk about ACS steering money to drug companies, etc. It would be interesting to see a great independent evaluation of that from a publication known for fact-checking.

      I’ve had cancer, and I typically give to the Leukemia and Lymphona Society.

    • lynda f says:

      What’s new? I would really like to see ‘charities’ of this sort made to account for every penny. Most should go to the cause, but it doesn’t.  Thank you, politicians with selfish agendas.

  17. I tried all of the Internets, but couldn’t find the basis of the rip off you’re alleging. Deets?

  18. johng says:

    I will send you email or you can just ask Matt… he will know… great story if you can get the truth

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