Man calls police to report pot theft

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  1. Ugly Canuck says:

    Theft of one’s medical marijuana here in Canada is treated like the crime that it is, and nobody laughs about it.

    Crime is no laughing matter.

    The laws against marijuana possession, cultivation and distribution brings the administration of justice into disrepute.

    People stop trusting the cops, or reporting crimes, and take the law into their own hands when there’s a dispute.

    The USA likes how Mexico has been coming along, does it?

    What do Candian judges have to say about these situations?

    “Arresting citizens who report crimes could have a “chilling effect on the criminal justice system””

    From:

    http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/1024533–judge-acquits-woman-charged-after-alerting-police-to-drugs

    You guys aren’t laughing at the pothead: you’re laughing at the decay of your system of justice.

    OTOH, potheads do sometimes seem to me to be too relaxed about things…

    http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1253013.html

    But like the cop says, you cannot outlaw stupidity, as we’d all be in jail.

    Honest potheads behave better than violent thieves, and always have done – so why the ridicule and punishment directed at them when they report crimes against them to those to whom such crimes are to be reported, my liberty-loving American neighbours?

    Would you rather let the dealers run your “justice system”, than your cops?

    • Ugly Canuck says:

      Hey I see that the news paper went to the trouble of letting MADD get in their two cents worth…. ( As drunk driving has been on the decline in Canada over the past few decades, MADD has shifted their sights to maintaining marijuana prohibition – that’s what mothers now want, I guess. Funny they did not ask NORML to comment on the story.)

      … while omitting to mention that the fellow at the roadside stop WAS subjected to roadside sobriety tests, which he passed.

      The punishment and prevention of crimes of violence and/or dis-honesty, and the maintenance of public safety generally, are the problems our justice system has to deal with; not the state of the citizenry’s souls.

      Legalize marijuana.

  2. rrh says:

    I admit it’s kind of funny in the “you fell down a manhole” vein, but then when you ask the question of “what should he have done, instead?” you get the sick logic that criminals need to arm themselves, they should track those thieves down themselves and retaliate, strike fear into anyone that thinks they can rob from them, etc. etc.

    That this guy didn’t follow that train of logic when things got tough might mean he’s a little dumb but it also means he hasn’t got it in him to be a dangerous criminal.

  3. ackpht says:

    I feel precisely as much indignation at the social injustice of stoners’ pot busts as they do about my speeding tickets.

    • Anonymous says:

      Strangely enough, all the stoners I know are deeply sympathetic about your speeding tickets. Seriously; I’m not kidding. They are all kind, empathic people who hate to see anyone get busted, because they know the system is corrupt and even people who have done wrong don’t necessarily deserve the type of treatment they will almost certainly receive from the police.

      Obviously, you are a different sort of person – one who finds humor in the suffering of others. I’ll pray for you.

  4. Terry says:

    All laws are enforced with violence or the threat of violence.
    If you support a law that punishes someone for a victimless crime then that means you are the one initiating the aggression.
    That’s no different from beating someone up just because you don’t like them.
    It’s thuggish behavior.

  5. Anonymous says:

    This is all very interesting you guys, but who do I call to complain about my well-known personal enemy who just broke into my house and shot himself, inadvertently scattering somebody else’s heroin all over the place, including into my own bloodstream?

    He’s a minor, so maybe child services?

  6. TabulaRasa says:

    That’ll teach him to turn to the police when he has a problem with someone.
    Next time he’ll hopefully do THE RIGHT THING and grab a gun to hunt those people down and shoot them in a dark alley.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Where’s the crime?

  8. mizerock says:

    I am comparing the two in that both are illegal to possess. I’m not making any judgements about which is more “morally wrong” to possess.

    Did he expect to get his laptop back? Probably. Did he expect to get his plant material back? Probably not, but if he really did, I doubt very much that it was his consumption of drugs that caused him to have such poor judgement. Though that is hardly impossibly or unheard of.

  9. Anonymous says:

    If people broke a bottle over your head and stole something other than your pot, the police would come and take *them* to jail.

    Why is it hard to understand that this paradox is exactly what makes Afghanistan and our border with Mexico dangerous as fuck?

  10. misterjuju says:

    I find it amusing that, within this thread as well as in almost every other bb thread about marijuana, it is fairly easy (for me) to guess which of the commenters have probably tried marijuana before, and which commenters have never smoked (and will probably never try it).
    Im sure I am oversimplifying things. Its just a personal observation. Kind of like “hip versus square.”
    Attn. u.s. lawmakers: stop criminalizing pot and potheads, its less harmful than alcohol and a hell of a lot more fun. Plus, if pot was decriminalized, this poor guy would get his shit back!

  11. futnuh says:

    Not mentioned in the Tribune article is whether or not the police were searching for Fleck’s assailants. If they are, then this is a non-story.

  12. Anonymous says:

    In Berkeley he probably would have gotten away with this.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Paool: nice try, troll, or if you’re sincerely lost in the darkness of your imagination:

    Presuming that anyone who allegedly breaks a law is no longer deserving of police protection is insane. Let the ones of us who have memorized all the laws on the books and have never broken a single one of them throw the first stone.

    For all I care, the drugs were planted there by the cops, until proven otherwise in a court of law.

    “The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.”

  14. Seancho says:

    Anyone notice the part where his friend was hospitalized in critical condition? Good thing he called 911, or his friend would likely be dead.

  15. ROSSINDETROIT says:

    I’ve seen a cop look directly at an ounce on an upturned Frisbee and calmly hand over a pamphlet on the city noise ordinance to the party host. We aaaalll thought we were going to jail. That was 30 years ago and I wouldn’t test East Lansing’s finest with that scenario today.

  16. inkfumes says:

    The Internet: underneath it is a serious issue.

  17. arp says:

    I’ve never smoked pot, personal choice. I don’t think it should be illegal or a top priority. I think the serious part is that the friend who wasn’t charged with anything was assaulted with a weapon and is in critical condition while everyone focuses on their opinions of a plant.

    If the friend dies from his injuries is it still funny his buddy didn’t clean up first? I’d hope if I were seriously injured bleeding on the floor my friends would call for help over hiding any questionable items.

  18. gwailo_joe says:

    Needless to say: this is neither just nor surprising. I thank my lucky stars I live in one of the more civilized parts of the world where marijuana possession is not (really) a crime. But not everyone is so fortunate.

    Certainly most people do not deserve to be assaulted (especially when outnumbered) and the police should IMO be far more concerned with violent crimes as opposed to drug crimes.

    That being said: when the police come to your house, you are at their mercy. And while you might want the law to protect you, it can just as easily fuck you.

    Don’t people take stock of the illegal things in their own home? I do. And so in the unlikely event that I am forced to eviscerate a home invader; I will calmly take my switchblades, ninja stars, 5 foot bong, unlicensed firearms, narwhal tusks and counterfeit LV bags and. . .put em in the closet. Under some dirty clothes.

    THEN call the cops.

  19. inkfumes says:

    Geez, what is this guy on? Drugs?

    • GreenJello says:

      Geez, what is this guy on? Drugs?

      Exactly: Surprise! being on drugs causes you to do stupid stuff.

      Next up on Boing Boing Water is Wet and what Wet Water means for your soap usage.

      • lasttide says:

        The several million US pot users who didn’t call the cops on themselves would disagree with your characterization.

        Understand this: Some people are really stupid. Some people use drugs. When these groups overlap, bad things may happen. Of course, this is true of everything. When stupid people do X it has a higher chance of going horribly wrong than when smart people do X.

        • GreenJello says:

          The several million US pot users who didn’t call the cops on themselves would disagree with your characterization.

          Sorry dude, every time I’ve been high my judgement has been impaired, making me more likely to do something stupid. It’s the reason why as a society we’ve made it a crime to operate heavy machinery in this state.

  20. Paool says:

    Ya, if you break the law police will arrest you. Funny ain’t it?
    Sucks that their friends did them over like that, but I don’t feel bad about pot heads getting busted. Sorry, I’m so evil I guess.

    • kjulig says:

      I can pretty much guarantee that you break laws every day.

      Some laws just don’t make as much sense as others.

      • bjohndick says:

        For real – I’m not sure how anyone in this country could blindly follow the law.

        Just take a look at the roads – what percentage of drivers do you think exceed the speed limits routinely every day?
        Right there I figure a decent percentage of drivers are likely breaking the law every day.

    • Ambiguity says:

      Sucks that their friends did them over like that, but I don’t feel bad about pot heads getting busted

      I do. People are made felons, imprisoned, etc. by inhaling the smoke of a burning weed.

      I think this makes a good, operational definition of the word “insanity,” and it makes me feel bad when I realize that we’re living it.

  21. Anonymous says:

    The five spent about an hour at the apartment before one of the men punched Fleck and broke a bottle over his companion’s head…

    Maybe they’re just trying to teach a lesson to dealers who impose excessive “hang out” periods before getting down to business.

  22. gradv says:

    Stupid drug dealers the term, “it’s all in the game” exists for a reason. What happens in the underworld needs to stay in the underworld. Jeez don’t these people watch The Wire.

  23. OhMeadhbh says:

    maybe the guy was from santa cruz. where i live, i’m pretty sure the cops would look around, and if they found fewer than 100 plants, no guns and no white, powdery drugs, they would have concentrated on the assault and theft first.

    we have one of those “cannibus prosecution is the lowest investigative priority” ordinances here. so while it’s still illegal, our local constabulary prioritizes theft and assault above possession.

    so… it’s not as strange an idea, to call the cops when someone robs you of your dope stash, as you might think.

    (but yeah, having “other drugs” in plain view when the cops showed up was sort of idiotic.)

  24. Grahamers2002 says:

    Can we PLEASE stop having “Dude calls cops to report illegal activity of which he played a part” stories. There are about 3 each month in the press.

    That said, …… “Christ, what an asshole.”

  25. Jamie Sue says:

    To say a pot dealer can’t call the police when he’s been stolen from is to say a prostitute can’t call the cops when she’s been raped.

    It seems all very… clinical… to me. Shouldn’t people have protection of themselves and their bodies and properties no matter what? Shouldn’t the police have to protect even those victims committing unlawful acts without further victimizing them? Or we could just make it legal and forget the whole thing.

    • querent says:

      An excellent point, in my opinion.

    • querent says:

      Except, I guess, that we don’t know this guy was a dealer. Though 2 pounds is quite a bit for the head.

    • Courtney says:

      Eh, more like “a prostitute shouldn’t call the cops when she’s been raped…while she’s with her next john”

      • kjulig says:

        This a very apt analogy since prostitution, like possession of pot, won’t get you arrested in a good part of the civilized world.

    • LintMan says:

      The police are providing the same level of “protection” to the presumed dealer that they would to someone who had, say, their home electronics stolen, instead of their dealer-quantity amount of pot: they will look for, arrest and prosecute the people who did it.

      Just because you are the victim of one crime doesn’t make you immune from prosecution for another. That’s not at all a part of protecting a victim of a crime.

      The only remarkable thing here is that the guy presumed that the police would somehow ignore the drugs visibly laying around his home and the fact that he all but told them he was a drug dealer. What did he think the police would do if they caught those guys – give the drugs back to him?

      I’m not seeing the rape/prostitution connection at all – has anyone here or in that article said anything about prostituion?

    • Paool says:

      He was attended to and was looked after, but after he is taken and sought to the police can’t just ignore weed sitting around your apartment because you became a victim. That is true for ANY law breaking offense.

      If I had illegal fully automatic weapons or some other form of contraband and called the police after my house was broken into and had them sitting in PLAIN SIGHT I would deserved to be arrested because it is against the law. Circumstances have no affect on the law.

      And in reply to Ambiguity I don’t think it is insane. It is something that impairs your judgment (as made evident by this article and the many others that pop up.) I also can’t stand the pot heads that know its illegal, do it anyways, and then are AMAZED when they are arrested. Calling for a public out cry to this oh so great injustice.

      Cmon, it’s just a bunch of stoners wasting their hard earned (in some cases) money on a habit.

      • Ambiguity says:

        And in reply to Ambiguity I don’t think it is insane. It is something that impairs your judgment (as made evident by this article and the many others that pop up.) I also can’t stand the pot heads that know its illegal, do it anyways, and then are AMAZED when they are arrested. Calling for a public out cry to this oh so great injustice.

        Sure it was incredibly stupid to call the police. The caller obviously had an atrophied judgment muscle (whether or not pot had anything to do with that is hard to say, as there are lots and lots of lapses of judgment by the straight-edge every day too).

        On the other hand, there is an injustice, because…

        Cmon, it’s just a bunch of stoners wasting their hard earned (in some cases) money on a habit.

        … treating medical issues, such as an unhealthy relationship with a plant (which this person may or may not have had) as a legal issue — a felony in all probability — as opposed to a health issue is just wrong. It doesn’t work (at this point this is as clear as it ever will be). It creates human misery. It costs billions of dolloars that the governments of the world could be spending much better.

        Given the weight of all of the scientific research that has been performed, given the examples given by other counties (such as Portugal) who have approached these issues in a different way — more successfully and cheaply — our prohibitionist drug policies are by definition insane (at least by Einstein’s definition).

        “Rights” is a funny word. As someone above pointed out, he didn’t have the “right” to own that pot. And in a legal sense this is true, much like in the past blacks didn’t have the right to be free, and women didn’t have the right to vote. But that doesn’t make any of these things right.

        And in terms of changing things, this is hard. Over 15 million people have been arrested in the US for marijuana, which is quite a voting block, but unfortunately many of these people are now felons so they have no right to vote.

        You have a law. Those who disagree with it (and act on that) are stripped of their right to vote. It’s not exactly a level playing field, is it?

  26. mizerock says:

    There are a lot of young people out there that seem convinced that marijuana is more-or-less legal these days. Maybe that’s because there are a least a few places where getting a prescription sounds to be trivially easy. But, yeah, in most places, the police (surprise!) still treat the possession of illegal drugs like a crime.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Dave’s not here, man.

  28. mizerock says:

    I think it would be more like a pimp calling the police to say that his prostitute had been taken away, or that your child porn had been stolen. Some things, you don’t have the right to “own” in the first place.

    • brerrabbit23 says:

      You can’t own weed, man. It’s from the earth.

      Also, you’re maybe missing the entire point of people’s selective objections.

      1. Many people commenting do not believe that pot is dangerous enough to be justifiably illegal. This is a reasonably held opinion.

      2. Many people commenting do believe that being struck in the face with a bottle and robbed is justifiably illegal. This is also a reasonably held opinion.

      See, where I come from, just because one of these opinions does not adhere to US Federal Law does not make either opinion or both opinions in combination invalid.

      Perhaps the most noteworthy thing, to those willing to objectively address each legal predicament individually, is that the only *actual* harms done (the violent assaults and robberies which preceded the arrest) WERE NOT AND WILL NOT BE PROSECUTED.

      MAYBE THAT’S REALLY FUCKED UP.

    • Ambiguity says:

      …or that your child porn had been stolen. Some things, you don’t have the right to “own” in the first place.

      Are you seriously suggesting that cannabis and child pornography are in any way similar? Should be treated similarly? That the possession of them is in any way of similar ethics?

      Just, wow.

    • travtastic says:

      So we’re comparing marijuana to child pornography? How much hyperbole can you carry around until it becomes a misdemeanor?

  29. Anonymous says:

    What was this man thinking? He didn’t think the cops would want to search his house after that… people are slow at times.

  30. Anonymous says:

    what the heck? Yes he is an idiot, but most potheads (those who strictly use only weed) are harmless. you should feel bad about a peaceful pothead getting busted rather than the violent offender that busted a bottle over his head!

  31. DarthVain says:

    Yeah sure, funny. Ha. Ha.

    Am I the only one that finds this disturbing?

    So a guy, has guys assault and rob him (of admittedly a controlled substance), then when he calls for help from the cops, they show up, see illegal stuff and arrest the guy.

    War on Drugs. Mission Accomplished.

    The guy was assaulted. He called for help. From the cops. Cops decide to arrest him instead.

    Ya, no problems there.

    • Ambiguity says:

      Am I the only one that finds this disturbing?

      No.

      Sure, we all laugh when someone does something silly. A doper. Or a politician. Or an Internet user. There’s nothing wrong with laughing at our own human foibles. It’s either that or go insane.

      But underneath it is a serious issue. And unfortunately the serious issue part is often lost as we’re standing around the Internet, giggling at each other.

      There’s nothing wrong with laughing — again, do it or go insane — but I admit I do find the smugness accompanying the laughter somewhat disheartening.

  32. rrh says:

    Also, did he really call the police, specifically, or did he call 911? Maybe he was going all, “Those dudes stole my weed, man!” or maybe his top priority at the time was getting medical attention for his buddy who was bleeding from his head.

  33. DarthVain says:

    Call me crazy, but they probably took all his money too.

  34. Satan Ate My Ears says:

    I got robbed while selling drugs, ‘cuz I was high.
    I picked up the phone and I called the cops, ‘cuz I was high.
    Now I’m wearin’ cuffs, and I know why (yeah yeaaaaaaaaah)
    Because I got high, because I got high, because I got hiiiiiiiiiiiigh.

  35. gd23 says:

    Cops and Robbers, two sides of the same coin.

  36. inkfumes says:

    Yeah! No one should find this funny… because the internet is super serious! How dare I make a joke about this! I find this disturbing and it affirms my naive world view, am I the only one?

  37. bkad says:

    The police should certainly deal with the assault and the laptop theft, and I would expect they would (well, at least to the very limited extent that muggings or laptop thefts would get attention in other circumstances). Don’t police chase down drug-motivated murderers all the time? Clearly the fact that someone might be doing something illegal doesn’t always deprive them of police protection and shouldn’t ever deprive them of police protection.

    As far the theft of the drugs goes, I am not a lawyer, but I think it varies by state and circumstance whether theft of illegally held goods is a crime or not. I could understand both perspectives. On one hand, taking what is not yours seems like it should be criminal. On the other hand, isn’t it the legal owner of an object who is the victim in a theft? (I.e., if my car gets stolen from your driveway, I’m the victim, not you.) Maybe with no legal owner, there is no crime…

  38. Jupiter12 says:

    An article on another site said that they stole his weed and his laptop. It would have been wise to 1) immediately get the drugs that were in plain view out of the house. 2) Make no mention of the pot and just tell the cops that the thugs beat you up and stole your laptop. 3) Laugh as the bandits get busted with 2 lbs of pot in their possession when the police find them.

  39. Jeeb says:

    HAHAHA WHAT A DUMB POTHEAD! HAHAHA MUSTVE BEEN TOO HIGH!!!~“1 HAHA HOW CRAZY AND STUPID.

    seriously though, this totally overdone, tedious ‘news of the weird’ bullshit is so completely overdone and tedious.

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