Anonymous vs. Zetas: is #OpCartel a flop, hoax, or honeypot?

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15 Responses to “Anonymous vs. Zetas: is #OpCartel a flop, hoax, or honeypot?”

  1. “Correctly exposed against an overexposed white backdrop” in ostensibly dashed-off amateur footage  is kind of an interesting data point?

    • The Doctor says:

      Compared to some of the missives by Anon that have been posted to Youtube in the past five years (including the infamous Chanology training film narrated by GLaDOS)?  Yes.  It could be said that this is either work of a relatively new member of Anon who hasn’t been jacked into the hive-mind for long, or someone acting entirely on their own without being part of the Anon hive-mind.

  2. ernunnos says:

    A must-read piece of empty speculation?

  3. Jeremiah McCoy says:

    You know, I generally like Anonymous overall.  I think they are actually a force of social action and they have gone after folks deserving of their special kind of love. 

    However, while it is nice to see them fight for my right to copy a video game, it would be nice to see them help people who REALLY need help.  I mean, folks like the Los Zetas are flat out evil on a level that sort of dwarfs Sony or Visa.  If this call to action is fake, I am a little disappointed.  I would love to see their brand of justice applied to someone really deserving of that and more.

  4. Good analysis, as someone who has been covering this more from a drug war and social media angle and may have downplayed some of the credibility issues once Anonymous got into it. But is it fair to call this spread fast? The original video was posted Oct. 6 and didn’t get any attention until the Stratfor report came out on Friday.

    Take a slow news weekend in Mexico (as compared to last week’s drug war coverage), do a few canned newspaper articles about the report in the mainstream Mexican press and suddenly everyone is going back and forth about whether #OpCartel is legit or not.

    I also think it’s beside the point now to discuss whether or not it’s a legitimate operation or not: if journalists who cover the issue are second guessing themselves and questioning the authenticity, how is the regular Anonymous member — or anyone for that matter — going to differentiate?

    In any case, more or less me thinking out loud. Love your coverage of this issue….

    - Dave Copeland

  5. William Bagilliam says:

    The more production value that goes into an ‘Anonymous’ video, the less I am likely to trust it.  I’m pretty sure the hackers who call themselves Anonymous are more interested in -you know- hacking. 

    Sitting down with Final Cut, posing with masks, and superimposing flying logos doesn’t really fit the Anon M.O.  When you see the mask, you can usually bet it’s just kids posing as their internet heroes.  Look at the hands, it’s a boy who likely doesn’t know a damned thing about hacking.

    • deliciouspineapples says:

      Because Anonymous isn’t primarily sourced from a social group consisting mainly of boys in their late teens? Because when all these hacking groups start going for ‘the dox’ on each other it doesn’t seem to include an awful lot of fairly central people who aren’t  old enough to drink? Because leathery and grizzled hands are the sign of the hacker?

       I’m not saying you’re wrong because that is pretty much how the internet works with these things. I have my doubts the ‘propaganda’ arm of anon actually has that much to do with the hacking arm or if the hacking arm is actually aware they have a propaganda arm until it looks like they’re going to be shot by mexican gunmen but none of these things really disqualify it from being Anon.

    • Susan says:

      Those are the hands of a woman.
      I liked the part where the building started blowing up. But that’s just me.

  6. ghosthardware says:

    To add up to the great production value (and great lighting as Rob points out) of this “amateur” video,  the discourse in there is really awesome and completely unbelievable, specially the bit of “we are sick of journalist attacking honest authorities like military and marines”.  Say WUT?

  7. Mormon Nailer says:

    This seemed bizarre to me from the beginning. What was the plan, LOIC zeta.blogspot.com? How exactly does one determine by hacking who is corrupt and who isn’t? Do you look at their facebook friends?

  8. Mormon Nailer says:

    OOPS! that was supposed to be sarcasm but it appears the link actually goes somewhere. Sorry about that Mr. Zeta whoever you are. :-0

  9. Mister44 says:

    “I bet you think you’re pretty smart, huh? Think you can outsmart a bullet?”

  10. Eden DaSilva says:

    Thats an old video, they dubbed the words over it.

  11. ghosthardware says:

    “And that’s the one thing Anonymous and the cartels have in common: the truth about their activities can be really hard to figure out.”

    And also is very hard to difference the narco from the government…… Corruption wouldn´t be so rampant without all the opacity around it. They are also Anonish. 

    Anon can´t fight Anon, they neutralize each other. A la Pokemon Style.

  12. israel says:

    Maybe I’m a bit of a technology dumdum compared to the folks on the Boing, but I’ve never been all that impressed with what Anon has done.  DDOS on somebody’s homepage?  Maybe it’s fabulously impressive from a hacker point of view(?), but I don’t see much of an affect in the outside world.  It seems to me indeed perhaps Anon overestimates their clout?  Zetas kill folks.  Actual people made dead, not temporarily shut down websites.  Also these types of narco fellas, they have shit-tons of money, do they not?  Perhaps they have a smart guy or two on their payrolls?  It seems if the Zetas thought the assorted Anons were a threat, they perhaps have the means to find them and end them, with much malice.  I hope that’s not the case!

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