If there is anyone who can save M. Night Shyamalan from himself, it's Marti Noxon

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36 Responses to “If there is anyone who can save M. Night Shyamalan from himself, it's Marti Noxon”

  1. Lloyd Cogliandro says:

    Everything else aside, you lost me when you praised the Fright Night remake.

    • wizardru says:

      I have to agree.  It wasn’t terrible, but it was most certainly NOT excellent.  It had a lot of problems, squandered some really great talent and seemed to have real identity problems.  I wanted to like it and it really let me down.

  2. lev36 says:

    Noxon rocked Buffy, and I’m glad to hear she’s on this project.

  3. Deidzoeb says:

    Just the fact of Shyamalan going to TV is good to hear. The main criticism that can be leveled at every one of his movies is they might have worked as an episode of the Twilight Zone. Feel like they should fit into 30 or maybe 60 minutes, not stretched into a feature film. He admitted in an interview, I think on the bonus materials for Unbreakable dvd, that he would have liked to write for the Twilight Zone.

  4. Lt. Col. w00t says:

    Her output lately has been a lot better than the much-maligned Buffy Season 6.. I believe I read somewhere that she sort of used the show to work out some personal issues, and it really showed.

  5. RedShirt77 says:

    Will every episode have a twist at the end?  Because then never gets old.

  6. TooGoodToCheck says:

    ***spoilers if you haven’t see Signs***

    There are few movies I hate more than Signs.  The theology of it was horrific.  It’s been a while, but from what I recall, all kinds of bad seemingly random bad things happen to the guy’s family, but then when an alien invasion happens, all it all works out so that they’re saved.  So the big plot twist is that it’s all part of god’s plan.

    HE gives the kid asthma so that the kid won’t inhale the poison.  HE makes the water taste funny so that there are half full glasses of water to use against the alien invaders.  Hey god – if you really want to help, why not just make the alien ship experience catastrophic engine failure in the icy depths of space.

    arg.  that movie bothered me so much that I am still grinding my teeth at the recollection years later.

    • fuzzyfuzzyfungus says:

      I liked the part where water-sensitive aliens decided to invade a planet that is visibly, as in from space you morons, rotten with the stuff best.

      Oh, and then the part where they mysteriously function just fine despite the fact that they’ve had dozens to hundreds of hours in contact with nontrivial water vapor levels in the atmosphere.

      Or no, maybe the part where aliens with nothing but vaguely-scary-claws and mysterious alien gas are somehow a serious threat to the armed forces of the world…

      The aliens could have just been crushed under the audience’s disbelief as it stopped being suspended and plummeted to the sticky theatre floor.

    • Preston Sturges says:

      Signs was asinine in every possible way.  On leaving the theater I only hoped the Signs had actually absorbed all the suckage in the universe, but there was enough left over to make The Village

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      Jeez.  I liked Signs, but I would probably watch Joaquin Phoenix reading the phone book out loud.

    • Slowermo says:

      So God does things in a inefficient, roundabout way? Sounds like the “horrific theology’ that everyone knows and loves (and I only tolerate) to me. And there was no “plot twist”, that’s an expectation from 
      Shyamalan’s other movies.

      • Preston Sturges says:

        “Signs” idea that everything happens for a perceptible reason is contradicted by the Bible and the Book of Job.  First God tells Job that Job’s misfortune is beyond human understanding. Then Job’s dickweed neighbors try to assign some sort of causality to Job’s suffering, and God himself shows up to rebuke them.  

    • L_Mariachi says:

      The scene where TV footage of the aliens is first shown, I thought for sure the twist was going to be that they were actually humans in green bodysuits.

    •  It’s funny to me that a movie as disliked as Signs is counted among MKS’ “good” work.  I guess that speaks to how bad he got in his later movies.

  7. lysdexia says:

    She’ll get the mustard out.

  8. D says:

    Joss Whedon’s confidante? Hope she didn’t have anything to do with “Cows in Space”(firefly). After all,  “Pigs in Space” kicks its $$$.

  9. unit_1421 says:

    Do Firefly fans realize that The Alliance is the Tea Party and the crew of Serenity are all liberals, since they practice socialism?

  10. C. Ruppel says:

    “The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, and let’s leave it there”

    I would have left it at Unbreakable.  At any rate I left M. Night Shyamalan movies altogether after sitting through Signs.

    • Donald Petersen says:

      I gave him another chance.  After the truly awful Signs I was willing to believe that maybe it was a fluke, since the trailer for The Village made it look like it was gonna be so good…

      He received no third chance, and by all accounts I’ve heard, deserved none either.

    • Slowermo says:

      I like a lot of movies that I know aren’t for everybody but when I watch Signs I find it hard to believe that most people aren’t enjoying it. It’s so perfectly paced and balances frightening and funny so well. 
      At the very least it made baby monitors scary as hell.

      • Donald Petersen says:

        It’s not that the guy can’t direct, though everything he shoots is straight out of a Hitchcock call sheet.  And it’s not that he can’t write good scenes or dialogue.  It’s that he suffers from a double-whammy of a curse: he’s way too willing to throw all logic by the wayside in order to achieve some dubiously all-important plot point (no matter what havoc that wreaks on his audience’s suspension of disbelief), and he simply cannot understand why so many people fail to acknowledge him as the greatest storyteller of his generation… like it’s our fault the studios don’t blindly trust him to do whatever he wants with their budget.

        Signs is quite enjoyable, sez I, for its first hour or so.  But by the time he reveals how the Lord’s Mysterious Ways give the family clues to fight off the hydrophobic aliens who had the uncommon good sense to invade a planet with so much liquid water carelessly lying around…

        Note to my eyeballs: please stop rolling, you’re making it difficult to type.

    • Preston Sturges says:

      Plus “The Sixth Sense” was obvious to anyone who’d seen the b&w classic “Carnival Of Souls.”

  11. teflaime says:

    Spuffy is not why Season 6 of Buffy sucked. Season 6 of Buffy sucked because none of the characters’ motivations made any sense within who the characters where. Season 6 of Buffy sucked because of the really stupid drug analogy. Season 6 of Buffy sucked because of Darth Rosenberg (and because killing Tara was stupidly arbitrary and only served the plot if Darth Rosenberg was inevitable (which is not firmly established)). Season 6 of Buffy sucked because of Doublemeat Palace and Hells Belles. All of these things Marti Noxon was in charge of. Therefore, Marti Noxon ruined Buffy. 

    So, take the most overrated, self-important writer of exceedingly predictable plots, with the showrunner who destroyed instead of rescuing my favorite tv show ever, and yeah, I have confidence that this show will be nothing but fail. 

    • Jonathan Badger says:

      There was a lot wrong with Season 6 (but not as much as with Season 7), but what was wrong with Doublemeat Palace? It was actually reminiscent of early Buffy that actually tried to have a message beyond the monsters — although, yes, fast food and the horrible McJobs associated with it are maybe not the hardest of targets.

    • Arys says:

       THANK YOU so much! She completely killed that show….

    • retchdog says:

      “only served the plot if Darth Rosenberg was inevitable (which is not firmly established)”

      huh? are you saying that a plot device is only valid if the characters involved cannot conceivably react in any other way than what happens?

  12. NoWayJose says:

    Looking forward to this bunches.

    Am not a big fan of Buffy Season 6. My quibbles are not with plot choices (with the exception of the Popeye-forearm-sized hamfistedness of the Willow magic=drugs ‘metaphor’), but with the execution. Without Joss’ polish and guidance, each episode lacked a lot of the tight dialog, tight intermingling of plot and theme, and several other small and important flourishes that had been present in the seasons before. Both Buffy and Angel lost a brilliant Script Doctor that season Joss focused his energy on Firefly and it’s painfully obvious any time I watch those episodes that those he appointed were not at his level.

    But that was then. Ms Noxon’s got a lot more scripts and shows under her belt and I thought the Fright Night remake was a delight. If she continues to fire on whatever number of cylinders it took her to produce Fright Night, I expect I’ll be quite happy with Proof.

    Assuming, of course, that she can overcome the deficiencies in whatever M. Night hands her.  Maybe she can even inspire – or teach – him to stop sucking. He used to know how not to do that.

  13. Lost me at SyFy Channel.

  14. Bj Nicholls says:

    Commodore Crush said it for me too. SyFy is excreble.

  15. bcsizemo says:

    Proof…I think you mean “Poof”.

    Cause I can’t imagine this lasting past one season.

    I’m still bitter there was never a season 5 of Farscape.  Damn you Sci-Fi.

  16. D Harpunea says:

    All this Buffy season 6 hate… yeah, well, that’s just, like *your opinion* man.  I loved season 6 of Buffy, I thought it was powerful and challenging stuff.  I loved Darth Rosenberg, I loved Buffy and Spike and I thought it was a great follow up to Season 5.  The Nox rocks.

  17. Preston Sturges says:

    Don’t forget MKS’ original crime against humanity – the script for the movie version “Stuart Little” which is a classic of English literature. Maybe MKS doesn’t understand his script was like the Taliban blowing up Buddha statues.  Maybe if someone made a 2 hour movie of Klansmen wiping their butts with pages of the Bhagavad Gita he’d understand that.

  18. Congress needs to hurry up and pass legislation banning M. Night Shamalayan from being involved  in any future filmmaking.

    This is an issue both parties can agree on. Get it done, folks!

  19. i would believe in this show if it was HBO or something, i can’t name one good SyFy channel show right now…

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