Knife in man's back for 3 years

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  1. Rickenbacker4001 says:

    “McNeely is considering whether to file a lawsuit against the local health department.”

    If the health dept cannot fund an x ray machine or have comprehensible benefits for its doctors (eye glasses), then what’s the point?! :)

    • xzzy says:

      Considering the guy admitted he’s been in and out of jail several times, it’s not unreasonable to assume he doesn’t have access to quality medical facilities. 

      Best he can probably get is a blood pressure test and maybe some stitches if it’s bleeding really  bad.

      • Mordicai says:

        He’s in Canada though, not America.  Shouldn’t he have government healthcare?

        • invictus says:

          See “Northwest Territories.” Canada has (largely) free healthcare, yes. Doesn’t mean the service coverage is equal across the country, and generally, the farther north you go, the less coverage you see. 

          To wit: The stabbing incident took place Fort Good Hope (population: 567), a largely First Nations community. If you’re curious, look up the stats on life expectancy for First Nations vs. Canadian average as a whole. “Undeprivileged” doesn’t even begin to describe it.

        • invictus says:

          For bonus points: The current chief of the community is one Wilfred McNeely Jr.

      • Rickenbacker4001 says:

        I guess he slept on his side too.

  2. Sounds like my old job.

  3. Paul Bryden says:

    There’s a Gordon Lightfoot song in this somewhere!

  4. SamSam says:

    A little off-topic, but since when do news organizations refer to non-famous people in the headline by name?

    Knife taken from Billy McNeely’s back after three years

    Was I the only one who wondered whether I was supposed to know who Billy McNeely is?

  5. Mordicai says:

     That’s not a…

    …you know what, no, that IS a lot of knife.

  6. That_Anonymous_Coward says:

    So whats the over under on time lapsed before someone makes the predictable this is what you voted for comments?

  7. Cubey says:

    Yes, in Canada, an xray would have been covered by healthcare. So why wasn’t he sent for an xray that almost certainly would have revealed the broken blade? Do we know for sure that a doctor hadn’t recommended one, but he decided against it?

  8. brucearthurs says:

    A simple blood test would have shown his iron levels were too high.

  9. noah django says:

    not exactly the same thing, but I was struck by a car once; about a month later, I was getting dressed when my hand caught on something.  there was what looked to be a small jewel set into my elbow’s skin.  it was a fragment of car window.  i popped it out and there was a divot that healed over in a day or two, that was it.  no blood or anything.

  10. Antinous / Moderator says:

    Had he been on a sea cruise, by any chance?

  11. toyg says:

    I hate to say it, but there seems to be a trend in healthcare: never, ever do an X-Ray unless the patient is paying for it. I remember people having all sorts of scans back in the ’80s just to clarify the smallest doubt; not anymore. Did the price of a scan increase with time?

    • Tynam says:

      No, but insurer’s profit margins did.

    • Lilah says:

      People having all sorts of scans just to clarify the smallest doubt is neither medically nor financially justifiable. That’s not to say that insurance companies and cost concerns haven’t changed the face of medicine, but doctors are also being taught to be more prudent with tests and imaging that’s won’t necessarily reveal anything or change the clinical management.

      That being said, the emergency doc definitely should have ordered an x-ray when the guy came with multiple stab wounds, no doubt about that. But the general practitioner? I don’t think so.

      • toyg says:

        So it’s ok to scan for “clear emergencies”, but anything below that threshold doesn’t qualify? This is how we get undiagnosed cancers and pathologies evolving into chronic illnesses because they’re not properly dealt with.

        I’m speaking from a UK/European perspective, where cost-cutting is now The Priority for any public service, but to me it seems we’re just finding all sorts of excuses to step back into the XIX century.

        • invictus says:

          The answer is, as with most things, somewhere in the middle.

        • Lilah says:

           No, I’m not advocating a dichotomy between emergencies and everything else. This is also clearly a completely different scenario from a cancer. In any case, you have to look at the entire clinical picture before deciding what studies to order. Shot-in-the-dark random imaging generally doesn’t add benefit, and in some cases can cause harm via false positives or equivocal results that turn out to be nothing after aggressive work up and/or treatment. And any study involving exposure to radiation (albeit in minute amounts) is not benign.

          In this particular case, the article said the man experienced minor pain and itching. If someone came to my practice and said, “I was stabbed in the back a while ago and now I experience minor pain and itching,” I’d already be thinking, “Yeah? Take some Aleve.” If my subsequent physical exam revealed no neurologic deficits, no decreased range of motion, and I didn’t see any knife sticking out, I definitely wouldn’t order an x-ray.

  12. Ian Osborne says:

    Sorry, I’m calling shenanigans on this.  The physics just doesn’t add up.  I’m assuming this is a push-button blade of some kind.  But, how did the handle get under the skin far enough to lose a nearly 3″ blade.  And, for the blade to be just below the surface of the skin enough to eventually work its way out.  

    • ldobe says:

      Could have gone in at an angle, eg the guy on his left tried stabbing him in the neck, missed and drove the blaed into his back on a shallow path. It was a drunken barfight, there’s no guarantee of logical positionimg and good hand eye coordination.

    • glatt1 says:

       I was shuffling my stocking feet across the carpet to build up some static so I could shock my brother, when I cut my foot on something.  It hurt a lot, so I pulled off my sock and found a tiny piece of glass sticking out the bottom of my foot.  I tried to pull it out, but it wouldn’t come out.  Too much resistance.  So I realized it was in there sideways.  So I pulled sideways, and it kept coming and coming out.  The shard was 3 inches long and had gone in parallel to the skin.  Only an 8th of an inch was showing.  I had no idea there was that much glass in my foot.

  13. noah django says:

    >google “billy mcneely knife”
    >click “image”
    >scroll
    >http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/21/article-2296932-18D5A08A000005DC-8_634x347.jpg

    doesn’t necessarily prove it, but gotta admit he’s pretty burly.  remember, there’ve been steel rods pulled out of men’s heads who survived.

    EDIT: derp–meant as a reply to Mr. Osbourne

  14. IndexMe says:

    FWIW another data point. There was a case in which a woman had a complaint about a pain in her neck. Turns out it was a nail that had gotten kicked by a car on the highway and pierced the woman’s neck without her realizing.

  15. Mac says:

    I don’t get it.  Did he get stabbed by the local health department?

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