US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy rootkits, spyware, ransomware and trojans to attack pirates!

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  1. Nell Anvoid says:

    Wow. They’ve outdone themselves in malevolent, bizarro logic. Bravo!

    I’ll just note their Orwellian use of the word “stabilize’…and let everyone else have a field day with the rest.

    • VinceLagme says:

       Indeed. but creating, via legal process, the ability to take control of another’s computer or devices just shows how Hollywood and the LA County area have a problem with power and control.

      Normally, a legitimate company or industry would attempt to solve business issues of settlement of rights and royalties for artistic work.  However, it seems there are few business solutions, but plenty of solutions which use methods of power and control of other things to solve a problem.

      This is a crazy idea.  Going to congress, to ask for backdoors into others computers and information is a definite sign that the business solutions offered by the companies in entertainment aren’t working, or sales expectations aren’t being met. 

      I’m real curious to see if Sony Pictures Entertainment splits from Sony Corp.  Sony tried to innovate multiple platforms, but even BluRay, to a point, has failed to gain industry acceptance.    Separating content from delivery will allow Sony to pursue actual platform solutions outside of those offered by Sony. 

      Thing is a backdoor to your computer, is what they’d ask for today.   When that doesn’t work, they’ll want to control your treadmill or fridge.  Maybe turn the power off to your home.  Who knows, but today, you can get an 80-inch 4k resolution TV for the cost of going to the theater about 100 times.  Whomever figures out how to distribute 4K video will likely develop an industry standard.   This is more useful than going to congress and asking to place backdoors and viruses on everyone’s computer system.

    • illushunnz lol says:

      The logic is good. The moral however is the problem.

      • Bahska says:

        Wheres the logic? Two wrongs dont make a right, i learned that when i was 3. Using iligal processes to combat illegal processes is ridicules.
        The fact they even submitted that to congress should be a big red flag to everyone in congress that hollywood is insane.

        • The entertainment industry needs to instead become more creative, innovate, and stop trying to use the government to cripple the market in order to keep releasing their outdated products.

          • bostonblah says:

            no the entertainment industry need to be taken back from  the filthy rat faced k!kes who own and run it , those people will not stop trying to control everything and everyone till they are all placed back in the ovens

        • illushunnz lol says:

           ” The moral however is the problem.”

          Read more.

          Congress already know they are insane, congress are a little themselves. weren’t they the ones trying to impose china firewall usa style for a second time?

        • Alex Seitz says:

          The problem is that they want to legalize these processes. In your US, i think locking someone into your house and nit letting him out is illegal. Still, police nay do that, when they have evidence that you commited a crime. This paper wants the congress to allow concerns the use of malware, if they have evidence that you have broken copyright. The big problem i see about thisis that the mechanisms could be abused for personal uses, or even for corruption. Imagine a rich dumbass going to such a concern and saying: “You get 500,000$ if you delete all the files on my hated ex-wifes computer with your legal malware.

      • wow…you’re a moron.

    • Data-fascists is the new word I’m gonna use for these idiots.

    • bostonblah says:

      more like typical k!ke logic,   hollywood is owned and run by filthy hook nose parasites, just like all the rest of the media and much of the internet ,so is the record industry  MPAA and RIAA , with jews you lose

  2. ocatagon says:

    Nothing would make a pirate faster than attempting to implement this.

  3. CH says:

    That doesn’t even parse. Are they talking about somebody remotely hacking into a file, because I don’t quite get the context where the text makes even remotely sense? (Blunt attacks? Stabilize a cyber incident???)

    Anyway, “destroying the hacker’s own computer or network”… yea, that would be a fun way to find out that somebody is downloading stuff at work. Wasn’t there a lot of downloads logged from the White House? I suggest they should be the first ones to field test this proposal.

    But hey, can’t fault them from trying. It’s the ones who are actually legislating  stuff like this who should be faulted.

  4. EH says:

    Use Linux.

    • Rob says:

      You don’t remember the recent kit that took over apache and didn’t leave traces in the filesystem?

      Anything is vulnerable.

      • heng says:

         Use Linux and not apache? ;)

        • Rob says:

          That helps with that flaw :-P
          Remember, you’re talking a well funded attacker here, not a bunch of script kiddies. The main advantage Linux has over Windows here is the heterogeneity. They’re not going to be able to do something simply, but they have the resources to spend.

          • TheMaTrIx says:

            Yeah, the well funded part really helps Corporations like Norton and McAfee to outdo the script kiddies …

            Also, for those surprised, why are you? You don’t have to go look far to know that the entertainment industry. from it’s inception was dominated and run by mobsters.

          • illushunnz lol says:

             Good hackers are the ones doing the work, some unfunded, some funded.

            Script kiddies are the kind of people who copy pasta code etc they see without knowing what it does.

        • Brian Resnik says:

          I don’t even…

          Do you even know what Linux and apache are?

          Apache is not an operating system.  Apache is an http server that runs under a variety of systems, including linux.
          This…please god tell me you’re trolling…

      • Peter Hanely says:

         Do you mean https://threatpost.com/attack-using-backdoored-apache-binaries-to-lead-to-blackhole-kit/ ?

        Looks like some funny business involving Apache after the system is already compromised by other means.

  5. Rob Knop says:

    The DMCA makes it illegal to traffic in software that can give you access to content you own legally for legal purposes.

    That’s not enough.  They now want to be able to hack and destroy your machine on suspicion of you having performed copyright violation.  Which would include accessing content you legally own through an unapproved mechanism, given the DMCA.

    Things need to move in the opposite direction from this.  Sadly, given how Congress is funded nowadays, it’s going to be a tough fight to stop this kind of thing again.

    • Edohiguma says:

       I’d say let them try. It will change absolutely nothing. Foreign IP thieves will find a way around it quickly. Rippers will find a way around it just as quickly. Then bugs will kill off computers of several innocent people. Then all of it gets buried in outside of court settlements until these lunatics come up with a new retarded idea.

  6. jaduncan says:

    I await details regarding how they can be held liable for damages caused by false positives.

  7. theophrastvs says:

    there’s no tidy acronym (ala CISPA SOPA DMCA PIPA ACTA) with this the latest attack of the plutocratic undead?

  8. fuzzyfuzzyfungus says:

    Hey, it’s the Fritz chip again! I thought that old Ernest Hollings had finally lapsed into undeath or something…

  9. blissfulight says:

    The report really isn’t about Americans stealing movies and music (although the recommended measures could be used by the entertainment industry to cut down on copyright theft):  it’s about China’s industrial espionage.  If they want to significantly cut down on the amount of IP theft, they could simply stop manufacturing everything in China. I think the crazy part is thinking that if they change the rules, it will suddenly halt all the IP thefts.  What they want is for China to suddenly start paying what they can get for free, or more cheaply, and that will never happen, because the influx of all those US dollars is what helps fuel the efforts to steal the IP in the first place.  China is poor compared to the West, rule of law there is a matter of how much, and the government and industry are actively colluding to steal IP.  

    • JonS says:

       “although the recommended measures could be used by the entertainment industry to cut down on copyright theft”

      Change ‘could’ to ‘would’, or ‘would definitely as the first test of the nproposed legislation’ and you might be on to something.

      • blissfulight says:

        There would be an avalanche of lawsuits the moment they got the wrong person (see Sony rootkit debacle).  The entertainment industry is understandably cautious about employing any mechanisms that would require significantly legal capital to defend themselves.  I think the report is primarily about making it legal for corporations to essentially engage in ‘cyber’ warfare with IP-stealing entities in China, which I’m pretty sure wouldn’t work.  

      • Martin Hunt says:

        The issue isn’t the one or two paragraphs devoted to the “entertainment industry”. The issue is the entire article above is blindly written to make the reader think the RIAA & MPAA are behind this when blissful correctly points out this has 99.5% to do with trade secrets and patents (legal definitions which do not apply to songs and movies).

  10. nachoproblem says:

    Curious precedent. Will it also become legal for private citizens to break and enter the residence or business of anyone they suspect of stealing from them?

    • Marja Erwin says:

      Why would the same principle apply to those above the law and those below the law?

    • Dv Revolutionary says:

      As long as I get to burn down Capitol One’s offices for the $500 they defrauded me out of I might be cool with it.

    • That_Anonymous_Coward says:

      You mean like when Hollywood steals money by claiming huge box office movies are still dogs that never made a cent?

      • Or screamed bloody murder about that gawdawful “hurt locker” movie they CLAIMED had been pirated just so they could drum up interest on a movie nobody would have bothered with otherwise? 

    • jakesdad says:

      well, considering sony already deployed a rootkit to do pretty close to what’s proposed and nobody got prosecuted while Aaron Swartz was branded a thief who demanded the full resources of the DOJ are we supposed to treat this as a serious question?  (sorry, not trying to flame you personally but we all know the answer – not just being pessimistic, there’s clear precedent…)

  11. thompson says:

    We are truly fortunate that the other side here is so batshit insane.  All one needs to do to convince others of the crazy is link them to their own words.

  12. A Conspiracy theorist is someone who doesn’t trust known liars.

  13. xhonk says:

    Corey, man, I love you and all, but this isn’t the MPAA. The Commission on the Theft of American Intellectual Property is made up of: {Dennis C. Blair (co-chair), former Director of National Intelligence and Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Command; Jon M. Huntsman, Jr. (co-chair), former Ambassador to China, Governor of the State of Utah, and Deputy U.S. Trade Representative; Craig R. Barrett, former Chairman and CEO of Intel Corporation; Slade Gorton, former U.S. Senator from the State of Washington, Washington Attorney General, and member of the 9-11 Commission; William J. Lynn III, CEO of DRS Technologies and former Deputy Secretary of Defense; Deborah Wince-Smith, President and CEO of the Council on Competitiveness; Michael K. Young, President of the University of Washington and former Deputy Under Secretary of State}

    It would appear that these people are far more concerned with international disregard for patents in manufacturing and innovation. Yes, what is proposed here could be used by the MPAA to further enact societal harm, but ignoring the distinction between this commission and the MPAA does a disservice to the nuances of these issues.

    More posts on the gongkai ecosystem, please.

  14. Richard Stallman will save us.

  15. Here’s an idea: let them have their extortionware and then nail them with DMCA violations whenever they use it.

  16. L_Mariachi says:

    “Such measures do not violate existing laws on the use of the Internet”

    I’m too lazy/hungover to cite chapter and verse but I’m pretty sure that statement is incorrect vis-à-vis distributing malware designed to disable the recipient’s computer, particularly given the explicit presumption of guilt/liability.

  17. Chip says:

    Maybe the rightsmongers think that as one of the most hated industries in the country, they have nothing to lose?

    If so, they’re wrong.  

    Forget about the massive wave of lawsuits from innocent people who would undoubtedly be damaged by a half-assed and poorly-thought-out scheme like this.  They should be concerned for their financial (and possibly physical) safety.  They’re escalating a war with people who are *better at it* than they are.  That’s not smart, and it will certainly end in tears.

  18. signsofrain says:

    Mind: blown. How can people be this stupid? Let’s legalize digital violence! WTF.

  19. verybored says:

    {Upon reading authors blurb at the end of the post.} 

    Corey! You wrote a sequel to Little Brother?! Man, it’s been years since I read that. I gotta break out my reading goggles and get on that!

  20. Copyright is intended to promote the progress of science and the useful arts. All Hollywood and the recording industry make is frivolous entertainment. Copyright should not apply.

  21. Jonathan Wilson says:

    I have a large collection of DVDs bought over many years. It covers films and TV and includes DVDs from pretty much all the major studios. I also go to the cinema to see good films (so far this year I have seen Die Hard, Star Trek, Iron Man and Oblivion with a whole bunch more to see later in the year when they come out). I WANT to acquire content legally but with the studios continuing to push for crap like its its getting harder and harder to justify paying money to those scumbags.

  22. pjcamp says:

    I’ve always thought out future was more likely to be Aldous Huxley than George Orwell.

  23. whyfor says:

    At a time of record profits the entertainment industry seeks to buy this into law. Such a draconian attitude, is the next step putting cameras in our home so they can be sure only the person that purchased the DVD is watching the DVD?

  24. Coleco says:

    Puh, citating without context… 
    Your second citation from the text.:the writers do share your opinion if you just continue reading
    Your first citation: obviously the software has to be accessed actively by the intruder bypassing actively the intruded network’s security system so it is his risk. But a good hacker wouldn’t mind and the governmental ones even not at all.
    And of course malicious someones will distribute the files around the internet just to blame innocent users.
    Of course it looks useful to preinstall such software on networks (like universities) just to blame the user when he tries to access or open protected files. But here again these files can be distributed to innocent users being then blamed by red alarms so that in the end this measure just proves useless and annoying.

    So in the end companies have just to think more seriously about which documents they let be accessed to and how they do password protect access and file, because the red alarm won’t work in China :-)
    But as long managers travel with their Apple phones and macsomethings through chinese border controls one does’t have to bother about security measures.

    But this here in this blog is just cheap polemics and won’t serve this Mr.Doctorows reputation.

    • Coleco says:

      Sorry for the somewhat bad english :-)
      I didn’t check the text before posting.

    • Nell Anvoid says:

      Methinks the point has passed over your noggin.

      • Coleco says:

        Well I understand tha the anglosaxons are fearing to lose their adavance in technology to the Asians, and they are right in doing so.
        So there are two countermeasures, first to protect their ip, second to open access to ip. The second step would be necessary if they are yet behind other countries and that’s what Doctorow is aware of. The anglosaxons will need the same disrespect to ip which made them big in the 19th century because they were too silly to protect their lead in trhe last years. And the asians are better in stealing than the USA. We europeans know our partners.
        So Doctorow is just helping to keep producing US-industry alive as he does in internet technology with his open internet, free access to keep big US-concerns like google in front.
        So to do this this US-industry-spokesman disrespects the work of little people in Europe.

        So that would be nogging, but my first post is a clear explanation in where this boingboing-blog is erroring.

  25. illushunnz lol says:

    Don’t they make millions off the first day release of a movie? Yet try to justify $30 a DVD afterwards?

    If this was brought down to $5 or $10 more people WOULD buy their
    stuff. Even if they made a donation system for people who pirated their
    movies and enjoyed them, quite a bit of people would donate.

    These ideas have been presented to them, but they don’t want to
    change. They like their old ways and cannot or will not adapt to todays
    age.

  26. 6de6vil6 says:

    I just remembered to switch my torrents back on

  27. 6de6vil6 says:

    This article just reminded me to resume my torrents

  28. This is so Orwellian.

    I’m thinking we’ll go to VMs/LiveCDs/etc or even find a new OS developed specifically designed to counter any such development.

    Think “3D guns” are an issue?  Wait until we start “printing” computers ;)

  29. Bill C says:

    Ho be a bit honest I hope they DO attempt something like that.

    So as soon as it hits one of my Machines or any Machine in the UK we can start the proceedings to haul them off to court ^_^

    The UK government does not look kindly on those that attack computers :

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/18/crossheading/computer-misuse-offences

    check section 3(2) :

    This subsection applies if the person intends by doing the act—
    (a)to impair the operation of any computer;
    (b)to prevent or hinder access to any program or data held in any computer;
    (c)to impair the operation of any such program or the reliability of any such data; or
    (d)to enable any of the things mentioned in paragraphs (a) to (c) above to be done.

  30. Chilly8 says:

    Such malware could be detected and stopped by foreign anti-virus companies. Companies like Kapersky or Avast, which are located outside the United States could deploy measures to stop such malware. Kapersky, in Russia, and Avast,. in tehe Czech Republic, are not subject to US  laws, and could alter their anti virus programs as such.

  31. So would I be right in saying they wish to install software on your computer that will lock down your computer if you play music or a film you haven’t paid them to permit you to play on that PC? How is this going to work? I rip the MP3 file off a CD and put it onto a mix CD… my PC will lock as it’s not on the authorised CD?

    How do you track it? I upload a CD to the cloud and my PC gets locked? 

    The common man gets locked out of his PC that he may very well only have one of which all his work is on? You are then preventing him from carrying out his work. I understand him downloading your film means you lost money. but you then making him loose money is the exact same thing… when did 2 wrongs make a right?

    Maybe if they started making DECENT things again people would pay for them. I see no reason to purchase the latest Shia-le boof movie where he plays a shy young man who is looking for a purpose and there is this overly hot girl…. blah blah… It’s crap… thats why they are hunting pirates… no-one wants the crap they are putting out.

    1984 eat your heart out… this isn’t even close… this is just madness…

  32. jakesdad says:

    I would argue it’s already effectively legal – sony did it, got caught & (surprise, surprise!) nobody got prosecuted.  to a corporation statutory authorization & prosecutorial ambivalence are effectively identical (I call it the Goldman Sachs principle).

    but Aaron Swartz was a THEIF!  think about that one for a minute…

  33. Edohiguma says:

    I’m trying to figure out how they would try to do that. Put the malware on the DVD? Because putting it into the OS will do only one thing: people will move to a different OS, in untold masses.

    And if it’s on the DVD the folks who do the ripping and copying will find a way around it. They have defeated all other DRM so far, they will defeat this one.

    What this tells me is that I will never again buy any Hollywood DVDs or blu-rays. Okay, I don’t buy their blu-rays anyway, because they are responsible for software players not being able to take screenshots of blu-ray movies (because Hollyweird feared it would be used to rip movies, one look at pirating sites shows it had zero effect, showing again that these people have absolutely no clue about the technology they whine about.)

  34. Doug Graham says:

    What could possibly go wrong?

    One random incident on some completely innocent individual would be all it takes for this to explode in a flurry of lawsuits.

  35. Marlin Blue says:

    i’ll be preping a virtual pfsense and a malware ar-15 for just in case that some democrat puts his nose in my very own hard drive and its proprietary and unclouded data.

  36. mjones52 says:

    “Such measures do not violate existing laws on the use of the Internet”

    Yes, yes they do.  Actually, it’s the invasion and installation of software on an end-user’s computer that violates several laws.  Doing so ‘over the Internet’ at the least would violate several FTC rulings.

  37. It won’t make people report their crimes. All the have to do is repartition/reformat and reinstall. Just like other malware. If you have your important data backed up, it means nothing. All the pirates have to do is re-download the movies, music, etc…

    • Benjamin Bookbinder says:

       Or the pirates – and ALLEGED pirates, as the industry s notorious for paining a broad enough brush to get them more often, it seem – will find ways to not even need to do that.

  38. Dave Wu says:

    You people sound like a bunch of self entitlement freeloaders. The stupid ridiculous DOWNLOAD GENERATION. GET OVER IT. I hope your computer crashes from stealing people’s work

  39. whomesurething says:

    MPAA, I have 5 words for you. “Computer Fraud and Abuse Act” A few excerpts, if I may:  ” The CFAA defines a ‘Protected Computer’ under 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2) to mean a computer…..which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce or
    communication, including a computer located outside the United States
    that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or
    communication of the United States.” [[This provision arguably makes any computer connected to the Internet, given the widespread use of Internet Commerce protected under the CFAA]]

    “Whoever knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or
    command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage
    without authorization, to a protected computer…having been found guilty, shall face a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than ten years.” [[This assumes the person that was accused of pirating said content actually was doing so. If they hadn't been (False Positive) then this behavior could fall arguably under recklessness, which has another set of penalties. Of course, we're assuming this is a Personal Computer, and not some workstation in a Hospital or some other place where these machines are vitally needed.]]Either way, the MPAA is going to shoot themselves in the foot with this one, legit pirates or not.

    • mz001 says:

       It’ll be even funnier once they find out that the anti-terrorism laws in some countries can be applied to deliberate attacks on someone else’s computers as well. Try recovering from the PR you get once country XY can legally label your company as a terrorist organization and treat it accordingly.

  40. CopyrightX says:

    Wow this is the most convincing evidence yet of just how important it is that regular people (who don’t own millions of $ in copyright assets) get heavily involved in petitioning legislators for changes in copyright law. Anyone outraged by this, please consider following the CopyrightX community proposal at StackExchange at http://goo.gl/5YDHa and posting 5 Example Questions there.

  41. Stuart Dredge says:

    These are batshit suggestions, but – and forgive me if I’m missing something – isn’t this report more focused on scientific innovations / hardware rather than entertainment? The commissioners listed at the end of the report seem to be drawn from the worlds of politics, law and technology rather than the MPAA/RIAA. Music gets a single paragraph in the 84-page report.

    I’m struggling to see how this particular report represents the “Entertainment industry” demanding rootkits and spyware, compared to some of the previous examples of copyright overreach from the music and film worlds.

    Not posting this aggressively or with an agenda, I’m just struggling to see the entertainment industry pulling the levers in this particular case.

  42. obbop says:

    Dear hackers and crackers, if the scum BIG business and scum BIG government again work in cahoots against the common folks please invade and destroy ever BIG corporate computer of every firm involved with placing malevolent code into an innocent person’s computer.

    It is time to destroy the corporate structure, the new King lording over us mere serfs, and make corporations work FOR people, not force us to obey.

    Fight for freedom, folks… before the monolithic business entities and those entities servant BIG government,  controls us entirely.

  43. well, this isent gona end well, it may work on the usa, but what happens when it hit a non usa country? their laws dont aply in another country, it wont take more than a few days to get a lots of lawsuits from all over the world, from people,(inocent or not) who got problem becouse an american law that dosen aply to them

  44. Steve Starr says:

    After repeatedly telling a child not to do something because there going to hurt themselves,  Its just better to let them learn the hard way.  Personally I say let the MPAA have at it. There only going to piss of the wrong bunch and then its thermonuclear warfare on the cyber front. The MPAA’s insane proposal will only result in massive profit loss at an unprecedented level. 

    Once they have there right arm savagely torn off and devoured  they will be so filled with fear that they will instinctually avoid the lions den  At Least for awhile until the new generation of MPAA smartys fill the ranks and decided that history is nothing more than mere fairy tale.  

  45. Ric says:

    I tell you what Hollywood, you TRY and pull this bullshit and I will as a geek turn into a one man OS installer and wipe every machine I come across for free and ENSURE your rootkit is gone after I do so.

    I have been looking for a cause to champion, thanks for helping me find one!

  46. so basically they are starting a digital war that they will not win…. every major hacker will have a field day destroying anything connected to hollywood…..  it would get so bad the gov would probably shut down the entire west coast internet just to contain the damage they would cause

  47. I quit buying new music/movies a LONG time ago.  I buy only used from places like Goodwill and garage sales (they haven’t made THAT illegal yet.)  They haven’t seen a cent from me in YEARS and won’t if this nonsense goes into effect.  I picked up about 50 CDs on Sunday for $2 each.  Good stuff too.  About half had never been opened.  Take that you RIAA/MPAA nazis.

  48. Gordon Platt says:

    Has anyone actually read the Commission’s report? Because apparently Cory Doctorow has not. http://www.privacy-net.com/did-boing-boings-cory-doctorow-even-read-the-ip-commission-report/

  49. Alex Seitz says:

    Btw, the community will deliver workarounds after max. 1 week.
    Blizzard were right when they called DRM a “fight that can’t be won”. I think they should just think about how to nake the people buy their stuff even though it is available online. Because even worlds richest concerns cannot permanently win against the swarm. (i don’t mean the zerg swarm but the hacker swarm)

  50. bostonblah says:

    people just need to stop  giving their money to jews and patronizing their businesses  ,boycott the jews, all hymiewood puts out is shit these days  anyways, every other movie these hook nose parasites make is about their fucking holocaust anyways, just more propaganda to guilt the goyim so they can extort more guilt and respiration  sheckles from them ,or some shit  movie glorifying the jewnited states  military to get you to go enlist go over to the mid east and fight for that pilfered pile of shit they call country over there ,you dont give them money to watch their movies, you kick them in the ass and say get the fuck out of the country

  51. jąðęð says:

    Look, I completely believe this, but is there references anywhere? Im in a heated  argument with people who think Im crazy and Im trying to find a reliable source to show them.. Please get at me on trutherlair.tumblr.com thanks 

  52. agooddecision says:

    “Burn Hollywood, burn”

  53. Ben says:

    Will damages from an improperly disabled or destroyed system be calculated on the same bizarre logic that RIAA / MPAA calculates copyright losses? You know, the one where someone found sharing a $20 CD is sued for $50,000 per track.  If they were found in court to have inappropriately “destroyed” my $150 secondhand netbook I reckon I should be awarded about $56,000,000.

    Additionally, the delightfully sick irony is that an IP “protection” lobby group is desiring legally permissible flagrant violation, theft and/or destruction of individual users’ IP, privacy and/or owned goods in order to ‘protect’ their IP… 

    • Ben says:

      Additionally – ironic that an IP organisation refers to ‘stolen’ information… when it was settled decades ago that on a legal basis that IP right infringement was fundamentally different to infringing ownership rights i.e. theft… that’s why separate copyright law exists. IP Law day 1, copying != theft.

  54. Ben says:

    double post pls delete

  55. File sharing isn’t killing the music industry. Shit bands are. File sharing isn’t killing the movie industry. Shit movies are.

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      Hey, I went to see Star Trek over the weekend, and it was…. Well, it answered my question about what a film generated entirely by algorithm would be like.

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