Die Antwoord, S. African zef-rap, and Progeria survivor Leon Botha

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Waddy Jones is the mastermind behind the press. It’s definitely all manipulated… He has been doing it for all his bands. There were 2 phases of Max Normal, comprised of slightly different line-ups. In between those 2 phases Waddy led a Hip-Hop/Graphc Novel/Anime/Figurine Project called Constructus Corporation, which was absolutley brilliant

  2. Derek C. F. Pegritz says:

    I kept expecting a bunch of prawns to show up in one of their videos. Now THAT would be epic!

  3. elNico says:

    I’ve been quite mesmerized by this since the initial post as well, and it’s been fun discovering all these little bits and pieces around the web.

    It certainly has invoked a new interest in contemporary South Africa for me – and there’s lots of stuff to discover just around these guys, as all the videos in this post prove.

    To some extend this reminds me a bit of the initial Beastie Boys’ frat boy image, recording crude phone pranks and all that…

    Those 2 play well together…it’s, uhm….almost adorable. She really is cute in a very weird sense…can’t put my finger on it, but she could be a Gorillaz character without much redrawing.

    Best of luck to them…

  4. Drinking the well says:

    How nice to see that the Dutch and Afrikaner hip-hop and rapscenes are producing similar music.

    If you like this you should check out the following Dutch stuff:

    Opgezwolle:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI30RBF4HT4&feature=channel

    Duvel duvel:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4MVVPbEBTg

    De jeugd van tegenwoordig:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjER3EX948w

    Fakkelbrigade:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWj0FjEasg&feature=channel

    Flinke namen:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0D7f7KHdRs&feature=channel

  5. Anonymous says:

    http://www.watkykjy.co.za/2010/01/die-antwoord-beat-boy-met-lyrics/

    Here you can listen to the full version of zef-side, but be carefull the lyrics are a lot more explicit than they are in the youtube video.

  6. Anonymous says:

    One word: Jägermeister.

  7. elNico says:

    Oh, and their site just re-confirmed that I DO want Flash on my internets. It’s so simple to do and would be a complete pain with any other current format that I know of…

  8. catcubed says:

    Ah of course, Die Antwood is Watkin Tudor Jones—don’t knwo how I missed that. Check out Watkin’s earlier album The Fantastic Kill, it’s excellent!

    http://www.discogs.com/Watkin-Tudor-Jones-The-Fantastic-Kill/release/1283679

  9. Anonymous says:

    Wow this is WIN!

  10. GoodBlood says:

    I love this.

  11. Anonymous says:

    http://videogum.com/archives/backlashes/die_antwoord_is_fake_and_so_wh_112671.html

    Just checked out videogum. Apparently Die Antwoord’s just some arts kids doing there thing, not a legit band. Sorry. Enter the Ninja is an AWSOME song though.

    -eric

  12. Anonymous says:

    Leon’s also been the subject of an art project,showed in cape town and next in Amsterdam: http://www.torchgallery.com/exhibitions/who-am-i.html

  13. Cruxx says:

    I have a crush on that girl now.. man I love these guys

  14. lewis stoole says:

    what does the thumb-n-fist hand gesture mean in south africa?

    • dmitri_man says:

      same as giving someone the middle finger

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s known as a ‘toffee’ in South Africa (gooi iemand ‘n toffie – to throw someone a toffee) and it is considered to be a bigger insult than the middle finger, but nobody knows quite why, or what it means. Some understand it to represent a man’s penis inside a woman’s vagina, but there is no clear consensus on this issue.

    • Anonymous says:

      it means up yours, the thumb being the penis inside the you know what

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s called a “toffie” (toffee), it’s basically the same as middle finger.

  15. 13strong says:

    Doesn’t surprise me at all that VICE Magazine love these guys – this must be a wet dream for them. Obscure cultural references? Redneck image? Obscene but empty lyrics? People pretending to get drunk and f’d up? Pretty girl?

    Anyway, I find it weird that this is all an act, rather than a genuine working-class Afrikaans music group. I’m trying to think of the UK or US equivalent; of three people appropriating and parodying a marginalised people and culture to make music…

    I’m still figuring this out, I think.

    The music itself, though, is pretty boring. And it’s depressing how many commenters inevitably start talking about how “weirdly” attractive the female member is, like that’s a worthwhile contribution.

    • Ted8305 says:

      “Anyway, I find it weird that this is all an act, rather than a genuine working-class Afrikaans music group. I’m trying to think of the UK or US equivalent; of three people appropriating and parodying a marginalised people and culture to make music…”

      It’s not completely unlike the Welsh group Goldie Lookin’ Chain. Slicker than, say, Ali G., but still a parody…. which may optionally be consumed non-ironically.

      • 13strong says:

        Yeah, but did Goldie Lookin’ Chain mimic bored suburban Welsh white boys who like hip hop? I thought that’s what they were (maybe I’m wrong). That they took a comedy approach to their music doesn’t mean they were pretending.

        My point is these guys are assuming a different cultural identity in order to produce the music.

      • joeposts says:

        “I’m trying to think of the UK or US equivalent; of three people appropriating and parodying a marginalised people and culture to make music…”

        Every white suburban blues band? Corporate gangster rap? Bob Dylan??? ;-P

  16. Nylund says:

    After the first post, I was sort of “meh,” slightly intrigued by the alien girl, but thought the guy was too much an idiot to hold my attention. But, looking at the background, I’m very certain that is all entirely contrived and artificial, but I love it more for that. I’m certain this is just one giant piece of performance art. The jokes and aesthetics of Max Normal simply do not jive with this group otherwise.

  17. mudpup says:

    I’m old and have many things come and go, it is the way the world works.
    But if mullets come back,
    I’m checking out now.

    • Anonymous says:

      I liked the thought so much, I condensed it to a haiku for you.

      I’m old, have seen lots
      But if mullets do come back
      I’m checking out now.

      Although having said that, she is a real cutie.

  18. reech says:

    GENUINE. That’s it. Marketing, promo bollocks en watookal notwithstanding – these guys have a message.

  19. Percy Sledge says:

    Please don’t start calling Die Antwoord DA. DA is a political party in South Africa. I don’t think Die Antwoord want’s any association. Try D Ant if you have to.

    Jack Parow is awesome, but he’s not the first. Brasse Vannie Kaap came before him. Jack Parow doesn’t really care. He collaborates with Die Antwoord on two songs.

    Check out the South African rock scene. Most of those bands that are singing in English are Afrikaans speakers. It’s nice to sea the trend reversed for a change. Thanks Ninja.

    There has always been a lot of interaction between artists from South Africa, Belgium and Holland, mostly because of the Oppikoppi and Pukkelpop festivals exchange program. Ninja has performed in there often with previous groups. No doubt he made a few contacts. Hopefully De Jeugd Van Teenwoordig will perform at the Oppikoppi festival in SA this year. They sound interesting. Do the name mean ‘The Youth of Now’ or ‘The Youth of Here’? I don’t speak Dutch.

    Xhosa death metal might not be very far off. SA’s had a thriving metal scene for many years. Check out Kobus if you want Afrikaans metal, or Architecture of Aggression if you want it really heavy. There are a few groups around with black members, soon one of the will start growling in Xhosa or Zulu. Check out Wrust, from Gabarone, Botswana, if you want metal from deeper, darker Africa.

  20. Anonymous says:

    First part of the Jack Parow video, there is two girls in the back of the car. The one with the big glasses is my sister…

    Does that make her internet famous? :D

  21. Anonymous says:

    Yo, check this out: http://www.dieantwoordzeflings.com

    Great shit!

  22. jahknow says:

    That Yo-landi kid could definitely find some work with Billy Ray Cyrus’ family!

  23. anechoic says:

    wow! Leon Botha interview *blew – me – away*!
    what an amazing guy

  24. kaosmonkey says:

    Leon Botha just nuked all my chakras. Great Kali Ma, that man is beautiful…

  25. Eric Singley says:

    Hey, who’s the chicken and who’s the egg here?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_qwUS8Uqjg

    Looks like Yolandi listens to J-pop?

  26. Aimi says:

    This stuff is blowing my mind. Die Antwoord are incredible and have a lot more to say than may meet the surface for most international listeners. (I don’t claim to understand all of it — it’s definitely an aspect of South African culture I had wondered about). I’m also so happy to have been introduced to the work of Leon Botha – he is a phenomenal talent and truly inspiring. I wish him many many more happy productive years.
    I never knew anything about South African music prior to this. (I checked out Jack Parow, too!) I already liked the rap music from the Netherlands, this is obviously much different. Glad to hear about the connection to De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig, too. “Very fancy” is amazing. I’ve been listening to JVT for a few years now since a friend in NL told me about them. Ik spreek niet goed Nederlands but I’m learning (trying, anyway, I can read and listen better than I speak and write). Also the Opposites have some great samples — “Liar liar” by garage band the Castaways in their song “Dom, lomp, en famous” for example. I also love DuvelDuvel…Surinamese/Netherlands…too bad they’re not still around. Very interesting and original scene that unfortunately does not get much international attention. Hopefully Die Antwoord’s popularity will help give attention to the social issues in SA and Afrikaans and Nederlands music in general! There’s so much out there to discover!

  27. dpcosta says:

    I’d heard about these guys through the magnetron music twitter sometime in january and never looked them up until I saw Xeni’s earlier post on them. I am thoroughly pleased and impressed. It’s good to see bands that don’t take themselves too seriously get attention :)

    By the way, although I like the Opposites very much (I’m in The Netherlands), you guys may find that De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig also sounds a lot like them. Check it out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOqLHmJmbc4

  28. Itsumishi says:

    Not too sure if I like the music yet. Some of it is great slightly reminds me of the Australian group Bumblebeez. The website however is great. Mainly due to the fucking awesome photos adorning it.

    There is also something about that girl. Not attractive in any sense I’m used to but I can’t look away.

  29. tsm_sf says:

    Checking out the Beat Boy video on Youtube and I ran across what is probably the perfect comment, which I reproduce below in its entirety:

    Im 12 and what is this?

    I want to rail her

  30. Anonymous says:

    check out the CY Cowboys if you think zef is cool
    they were next level like, long ago

  31. MoShang says:

    It’s neither hip-hop nor particularly zef, but on the off chance that Die Antwoord has whetted your appetite for new Afrikaans music the experimental Eentonig album was released last December and is a free CC-licensed download. http://eentonig.com/home-e.html

    • wrybread says:

      How is this not hip hop? Sing Slick Rick’s Treat Her Like a Prostitute to yourself while you listen to their Total F*ck Up song for example. Same beat, just updated to like 20 years in the future.

      • MoShang says:

        Heya wrybread – apologies for the confusion. I was referring to the Eentonig album. Die Antwoord is most definitely hip-hop and zef in the best ways possible.

  32. Percy Sledge says:

    Now we get to discussions on whether Die Antwoord is legit or not, a discussion generally reserved for those desperate to find meaning in their own lives.

    Does it matter? Waddy Jones has always immersed himself completely into whatever character he conjures up, so much so that he becomes the character completely, on stage and off. Go ask the people from the Cape Flats, who’s represented by this character and turn up in numbers when Die Antwoord performs, whether they care. His previous groups were all conceptually different and critically aclaimed. There’s always some truth and sincerity hidden within every character he portrays. It’s authentic, therefore, legit.
    Too legit to quit.
    Art-school or not.

    You watch movies, don’t you?
    The Terminator wasn’t real cyborg.

  33. Anonymous says:

    just some art kids doing their thing? what is a real band supposed to be?

    and the best thing I discovered out of all of this was Sibot, there’s some real talent waiting to be discovered

  34. Anonymous says:

    If you understand Afrikaans, you would know that the lyrics are unbelievably rough. This is very good stuff.

  35. Anonymous says:

    Wikipedia’s page on Leon Botha is nominated for deletion due to lack of notability – is a mention on Boing Boing enough to save it?

  36. djflippy says:

    I feel like I have just witnessed the future.

    Thank you to the Boing Boing for making me realize what it is to be entertained.

    Die Antwoord is the answer, but what is the question?

  37. Enormo says:

    I couldn’t really make out the words but I don’t think they like me very much.

    Also, despite my best efforts that girl doesn’t seem very impressed with me… or with you for that matter.

  38. Anonymous says:

    “Just checked out videogum. Apparently Die Antwoord’s just some arts kids doing there thing, not a legit band. Sorry. Enter the Ninja is an AWSOME song though.

    -eric”

    Three things:

    1) While ‘Die Antwoord’ has a performance piece quality to it, it’s very definitely a real band. These guys are totally into what they are doing, and have been making music for over a decade.
    (I saw Max Normal in 2000)

    2) The SA Music scene is tiny. Anyone who makes a full-time living out of it, for more than a decade, with massively creative concept projects, intriguing personas and intelligent, self-aware sensibilities is in it because they love it, and have starved for it.

    3) While Watkin Tudor Jones’ art sensibilities may be more refined than initial impressions suggested, and there is certainly a ‘meta-narrative’ at work, there’s no indication that he’s been to art school, necessarily. As far as I know, his first teenage project was South Africa’s answer to Cypress Hill (Puff the Magic).

    Again, they’ve been earning their dues the hard way throwing themselves completely into what they do in a tiny petri-dish of a place (commercially speaking).

  39. mstoddard says:

    “TOTALLY NEXT LEVEL SHIT”

  40. Anonymous says:

    The longest running Die Antwoord coverage is on Mahala.co.za
    They were bigging them up forever before they blew up. Very good backstory articles…

  41. Anonymous says:

    DIE ANTWOORD DIDGE BEATBOX VID! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH5_VhYGnKo

  42. Anonymous says:

    As mentioned before, quite some similarities can be seen between Die Antwoord and De Jeugd Van Tegenwoordig out of Amsterdam, but also producer Bas Bron who does all beats for DJVT next to having several projects of his own and who, incidentally also appears linked to Die Antwoord as he produced DA’s song Very Fancy.
    On top of that he is one of the people behind Magnetron Music, the Dutch label that DA as well as DJVT are signed to.

    Both DA and their Amsterdam counterparts mix several unexpected musical influences into something completely fresh and boundary-bending.
    Both incorporate obscure slang and actually even make words up, both throw extreme Pop Culture references and imagery onto what could best be compared to a “white trash” type foundation.
    And not only that, they seem to have a pretty similar approach with regards to their PR and Bio’s.

    De Jeugd Van Tegenwoordig:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKKM1hhv3es
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjER3EX948w&feature=channel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CID_ppgm6yI&feature=channel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XSywaxYhfo&feature=channel

    Bas Bron:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bas_Bron

    Magnetron Music:
    http://www.magnetronmusic.com/

  43. kenswift says:

    Leon Botha is a very talented visual artist…

    And these guys seem to be flirting with a social environment that they haven’t lived.

    This video represents Cape Town township life – all genuine:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTKFBPM4GNg

    Terror MC from Ravensmead.

  44. Anonymous says:

    I would just like to clarify a few things to you people about the Zef South African rap scene that has all of a sudden jumped from South Africa to a world wide audience. It was actually started a few years ago by two local Rappers called Jack Parow and Vegas. They Started a band called The Vegas and Parow show and along with Corne and Twakkie (Performance artists) began a mission to make Zef afrikaans culture cool again as most of South Africa was against this culture. Waddy jones of Die Antwoord however was part of the English culture as he is actually english and then he did what he always does (as most musicians in South Africa know from first hand experience) just jumped on the band wagon and now portrays himself as being Zef South African and puts on a accent while he actually speaks perfect english and has never lived or been part of any of the things he portrays in his music. I am not trying to be nasty and unfair, Waddy Jones is an excellent rapper, I just think that respect should be paid where respect is due and thus I have written this. Jack Parow is still making huge waves locally and internationally and has stuck to his guns through everything and still represents himself and where he comes from and as he is the father of this Zef south african rap scene I just wanted to let you know about this.If you read this Mr.Parow…dont worry…South Africa knows.

    • Ted8305 says:

      Yeah, I wondered why an Afrikaaner rap artist would choose to go with Tattoos in English.

      Die Antwoord is OK, but I’m holding out for Xhosa death metal. \m/

  45. Anonymous says:

    Funny how u guys been thinking to know about dutch hiphop and how things seem to be alike.. there’s really nothing to be linked.. besides from the fact that die antwoord almost got signed to the biggest dutch hiphop label called ‘top notch’.. just before interscope showed their interest.. the rest is history.. but hey.. as an act.. aint nothin similar to De jeugd van tegenwoordig or the Opposites at all.. the Anon dude was right.. kinda coincidental the opposites got some trailer trash vibe in the ‘broodje bakpoa’ song.. thats where the similarity ends actually.. de DJVT is more sorta funk based and take themself more serious than most of u apparently seem to know, the opposites are actually just plain wack.. and Die Antwoord actually are way more origional than the dutch rap acts.. Especially concept wise.. just because they’re not trying to be credible or whatever.. the only striking similarity is that Yolandi Vi$$er actually looks like most teengirls did in the early nineties in holland when everybody and they momma was poppin x and sniffin speed over here in Australian trainingsuits.. Asking yourself the question to take die Antwoord serious or not is actually answering it.. Give them credit for what they do cause: 1. ninja is not a wack mc 2. that combined with the (partly) created character(s) being a total wackjob is the move of a mastermind 3. Yolandi fuckin Vi$$er sings like a squirl and looks like an anorexic teen and still gets all your attention and not to forget your dicks hard 4. their stage performance got freakshow qualities.. now who doesnt prefer that over 99% of them rappers out there walking the stage in fur coats with gold chains pretending to sweat with the credible ass white towel.. (who made that a sorta standard anyway). 5. whatever…

    Btw.. the coin shouldve dropped when ninja was claiming to have some ‘serious gangstarap skills on the mic…’ to lace Hi Tek ‘next level beats with’.. and that yolandi was his nextdoor neighbour girl in the interview introducing his mom and dad.. uh huh …

    but the weirdest thing is that everybody here’s comparing this shit to dutch hiphop which is not coming close.. while there’s one rap-rave act avant la lettre from Holland that actually comes close.. with the rave 808 and 909 ‘gabber’ basskicks and the white trashy fuck you style that Die Antwoord has.. STEEN !!! yes u heard the name right: STEEN … Im not even linking u bastards.. u do the match urself.. there’s even a white trash anthem from STEEN, TIM and SKILLZ1 … title: ‘WHITE TRASH’ .. that song’s maybe 4 years old.. so actually aint nothing really new..

    bottom line: Die Antwoord rocks.. whether its an arty thing.. or a real rap act.. its what you make it. nothing’s real. unless u want it to be. Die Antwoord is actually the answer to the fact that the term real is crossfading anyway. Which is frowned upon in the hiphop game, I know. Props to Ninja for having the guts to take it way over the edge.. Thats freakin pioneers work..

    less important bottom line: 9 outta 10 dutch rap acts u been posting here to compare to Die Antwoord only have in common that its dutch spoken which could easily be mistaken for Afrikaans, since its the same native. but someone with a lil dutch historical rap knowledge (cause its rap, it has nothing to do with hiphop anymore, but I should graduate on that later) should and would have dropped STEEN’s name.

    Damn.. I just written a groundbreakin novel.. where’s my nobelprice, bitch..?

    big up to Yolandi Vi$$er for bringing back the ‘gabberslet’ vibe and making it credible for lil girls to find themself danglin over lil white powdered mirrors finding out their mascare is runnin… she cant spit, but consider her a genius for making such a ugly trashy vibe a vintage retro thing. Ask your momma if she got some old nike air max’s or an aussie in the wardrobe if ur a teen.

    5000 … @ya’boy
    (ik ben je boy niet / mooi niet )

  46. Sharkhunt says:

    Made the wonderful mistake of listening to their whole album on http://www.dieantwoord.com/ … So very sticky. Thanks Xeni, I’m an especially happy mutant tonight.

  47. drublin says:

    Progeria (also known as “Hutchinson–Gilford progeria syndrome”[1] and “Hutchinson–Gilford syndrome”[2]) is an extremely rare, severe, genetic condition wherein symptoms resembling aspects of aging are manifested at an early age. The disorder has a very low incidence and occurs in one per eight million live births.[3] Those born with progeria typically live about thirteen years, although many have been known to live into their late teens and early twenties and rare individuals may even reach their forties[4][5]. It is a genetic condition that occurs as a new mutation and is not usually inherited, although there is a uniquely inheritable form. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progeria

  48. catcubed says:

    Capetown has been full of awesome music this past decade. As others point out this Die Antwood is likely a creation of a bunch of other musicians — I’m pretty sure they gave a call out to Markus Wormstrom in that song, who is an amazing electronic musician out of Capetown.

    Markus Wormstrom
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAzFhkeBWHU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21uYjUAjb10

    Relatedly, also check out the dropdead delicious sounding Sibot whose album “In with the Old” is one of my favorite albums of all time.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGc9z66n0o&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-glKMg0uAo

  49. agraham999 says:

    I have been fascinated by this ever since the original post…I honestly don’t know what I’d do without a) the interwebs and b) boing boing…

  50. Percy Sledge says:

    Max Normal and Max Normal.TV are two different projects with only Watkin Tudor Jones being in both of them. Max Normal was a band with a mean-riff playing bassist, an actual live Japanese drummer playing drums and loop samples (often at the same time), DJ Sibot (later from Constructus Corporation and The Real Estate Agents) and Jones. Max Normal.TV was an audiovisual live multimedia mashup featuring DJ Hi Tek, Yo-Landi Vi$$er, Jones and random collaborators.

    Every project Waddy’s been involved with has had a distinctive concept that ties in with the music, the lyrics, the visual presentation and perception. The bigger picture is always a performance art piece. It’s always brilliantly constructed and authentic. At the heart of it lies truth and sincerity. Who cares whether it’s real or not.
    It is what it is.

    - Die moederfokken Antwoord

    - What does it mean?

    - The Answer

    - The Answer to what?

    - Whatever, man… Fuck.

  51. Anonymous says:

    That Opposites video is nothing.

    People need to check out De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig which is very similar to Die Antwoord.

  52. Anonymous says:

    I just wanted to say thank you for bring Die Antwoord to my attention. My life is better because of it.

  53. Anonymous says:

    #58

    “Personally, I think the phrase “meme-burst” is the most amazing and enduring element to come out of this meme-burst…”

    I think I agree…this whole “Antwoord” memeplex has been an entirely alien experience for me…to not just like music I should HATE but to become interested in EVERY PERSON INVOLVED, including a progeria survivor who shares an interest in alchemy, and a hot mullet surivor…

    It really does feel like a “burst.” Indie Psyop WIN.

    ps. My captcha is “normal” as in “MaxNormal” hmm…

  54. theLadyfingers says:

    If you’re interested in Afrikaner rap, the funniest by far is Jack Parow.

  55. BritSwedeGuy says:

    I was convinced it was an elaborate joke until this – it reminded too much of the Trailer Park Boys – you know what I’m saayin’?

  56. Cruxx says:

    At first I thought that was that Chicken Little kid you had on here before.

  57. Anonymous says:

    I was looking for some info on Die Antwoord when I came here.
    At first I actually thought they were Dutch (like myself).
    I knew the South-African language was very similar to the Dutch language, but I never knew it was this much.

    Even though I’m pretty sure they are using street talk. In example the fok jou (which is fuck you mixed with Dutch, jou = you) is used a lot by teenagers.
    It’s not actually meant as an insult, more a playful way of saying “no way”.

    Also, the “Broodje Bakpao” clip originated from a series of short comedic clips, called New Kids on the Block (or as everyone now calls is, New Kids).
    It’s a parody of what would be a redneck in America.
    And yes, the style is somewhat similar to Trailerpark Boys.
    In the 90′s a musical style called Happy Hardcore (a happy tune driven by a fast bass, look up DJ Mental Theo and Charly Lownoise) and yes, that clothing style was popular.

    Currently New Kids popularity is fading, and they’re trying to milk it with music clips and merchandise.
    It’s really a shame, because even though the humor used doesn’t appeal to everyone, a lot of people found it genuinely funny, and so did I.
    They’re basically always drunk, driving around on a Vespa Ciao and destroying everything that comes in their way, which sometimes leads to getting a good beating themselves.

    The posted video is a collaboration between some Dutch rappers and the guys who made the New Kids videos.
    The leading tune that you hear is the soundtrack of the videos (mainly the very last part of the Broodje Bakpao clip).
    They recently released a new song which – in my opinion – is just blatantly trying to get the last drops of money out of the series.

    Anyone even mildly interested in this huge piece of Dutch “culture” should check out the New Kids clips.
    Even though they are Dutch spoken, it shouldn’t be too hard to figure out what they are up to, you might even learn a Dutch word or two. ;)
    http://www.flabber.nl/newkidsontheblock
    (scroll down for the episodes)

    Hope this isn’t too big of a read, I had some spare time and have had lots of energy drinks haha.

    Greetings from the Netherlands!

    Nick Betting

  58. Tom Hale says:

    I’m trying to find a way to like this – I know I should broaden my musical horizons – The only one I halfway enjoyed is the one from the first Die Antwoord post – maybe if I don’t look at the video it’ll be better – yeah I’ll try that

  59. Sharkhunt says:

    Disclaimer: Too much coffee earlier and I obsess over details too much for my own good sometimes.

    Checked out some of their earlier work as maxnormal.tv and there’s some interesting manipulation going on in the way the new project is being presented. Waddy has a lot of ink on his left shoulder in the maxnormal videos, none at all of the press photos/video for DIE ANTWOORD, but then has it again in some of the live shots from DIE ANTWOORD shows on their FB page.

    I don’t think there was removal since the first posting of “Zef Side” on YouTube (no tat on left shoulder) was on 12/18/09, where live shots on http://lukedanielphotography.blogspot.com/ with lots of ink in the same spot were taken on 12/19/09. Either his ink on that shoulder disappears and reappears at will or someone is investing a lot of effort into covering up their skin with something before appearing shirtless for what’s made out to be casual-looking press on their official site.

    Not that this takes away from the music, which is a *huge* step up from the little bit of maxnormal.tv that I’ve seen on youtube, but it does reveal a very controlled presentation that contrasts with the “this is how we live” public image the project seems to be trying to project.

    I’m curious to hear more about how maxnormal.tv turned into DIE ANTWOORD and who is driving the press machine that timed this going viral so successfully in the same month that the album is due to be released.

    I admit, the ink is a minor thing and a person should be able to exercise control over the way that they appear to the public. At the same time, it makes me wonder how much the rest of the bio here is being manipulated.

  60. Sharkhunt says:

    As outsiders knowing nothing about the scene, there was probably a desire believe that the cyborgs were real in this case…because the “cyborgs” are freaking awesome.

    The level of acceptance for fictional bio stories from US listeners can be all over the place. Groups that do this usually fare better when their audience is in on the joke (See GWAR, Dr. Octagon, or Ziggy Stardust). Artists who push their fake bio too seriously can end up being criticized for it when the truth surfaces (See Vanilla Ice).

    The taxicab video and live spots show that DA are good at what they do, probably more talented than the countless auto-tune acts that have been so popular here for so long anyway. Anyone upset about the bio is probably just reacting with suspicion to the corporate sponsorship, slick production values, and the speed that this took off over the last few days.

    Waddy might want to let his new-found fan base in on the joke, at least a little, when DA finally gets around to dealing with all of this new attention…

    …or not, if it’s more fun to watch the world take the bait in the short-term at the possible expense of their longer term success here

  61. Anonymous says:

    First off they had me fooled and after ten minutes of despair upon finding out it was an “art project”I was back to being a crazed fan. They got me! I can’t say the Sex Pistols, Mentors or Kiss are any different. For g-d’s sake Gene Simmons isn’t really named Gene Simmons and he was training to be a cantor!

    As a guy in northern New York State the last thing I remember about South Africa was when my Rabbi moved there in 1984. You have to realize that this joke has opened many eyes internationally to SA culture in one bright moment.

    And for the record Yolandi is incredibly hot!!!

    Die Antwoord may not be what they appear, but they not only are a great band but have thrust South Africa into the spotlight at the speed of “the inter-web”.
    GO NINJA!

  62. retseem says:

    Actually the Broodje Bakpao song is not Afrikaans but Dutch (well, sort of). Big hit at this moment in NL.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes, it’s probably used in the show ‘New Kids’ in some way or the other, at least it has clips from it in the video.

  63. Sam says:

    Is one of the symptoms of Progeria being really into rap music. If I remember correctly Tsim Fuckis (the famous youtube Progerian) was a rapper too.

  64. Anonymous says:

    check out the dutch hip hop
    de jeugd van tegenwoordig

  65. Anonymous says:

    b2 – I had to return here to thank you for turning me on to Die Antwoord. wow….

  66. MichaelRN says:

    Think about the history that makes something like Die Antwoord possible: African music that came to America with slavery, evolved through Blues, Jazz, Funk, Soul, Rap and Hip-Hop, and then globalized through modern technology, returning to Africa, and collided with modern South Africa, in all her gritty ambivalence, to create Zef. Full circle.

    Rap and politics have always been intertwined. On the surface, it may look like Die Antwoord are poking fun at their local rednecks/chavs/neds, but look closer, and you will see serious race, class and political power issues. Good stuff.

  67. Anonymous says:

    Printing shirts with the Antwoord logo and more to come I’m told

  68. robulus says:

    What a fascinating cosmology, delivered with such clarity.

  69. dmitri_man says:

    amusing to see the parts of my home city that don’t make the tourist rounds featured on boingboing ;) viva vibracrete walls and disaffected afrikaner girl stares

    they need to work on their “ma se poes” on the website though. isn’t authentic enough.

    and i know this crowd likely live in Durbanville and not Ruyterwacht, but eh.

  70. Anonymous says:

    wow i thought the transgression guy speaking incomprehensible truths was someone with an elaborate make up artist. But damn i am i blown away. Die Antwoord Rocks!!!

  71. Jeroenemans says:

    I really like ‘Die Antwoord’! de ‘Jeugd van tegenwoordig’ means ‘The Youth Nowadays’.. they release on the same label as Die Antwoord and they sound suspiciously similar. Jeugd van Tegenwoordig also don’t rap in proper dutch, but in a made-up language (like Camp-Lo in english more or less).

    • Aimi says:

      basically de Jeugd Van Tegenwoordig translates to the English phrase “kids these days”.

    • Anonymous says:

      jeroenemans is right.this is suspiciously similar to ‘jeugd van tegenwoordig’ i also believe it is rapper ‘vieze fur’ from this crew heard on the track ‘wat kyk jy’ this must be another alter ego from dutch producer Bas Bron , just like Fatima Yamaha was.fake act with fake biography, i love it !
      i think it’s genius, they must be laughing. they never believed this was going all over the world :)
      well done ! magnetron music ftw
      the fat ronaldo, cheers

  72. griffin watkykjy says:

    I have an entire live gig of Die Antwoord that I filmed around 2 weeks ago. I uploaded one of the videos to Youtube (user = ougibbons) and I will try and upload some more next week.

    To listen to their whole current album $O$, go to http://www.watkykjy.co.za/die-antwoord/

    Their new album, Ten$ion will be available from the first of March. Also, they are working on a brand new heavy next level song called, which will be available for free to download from http://www.watkykjy.co.za for a limited period.

    griff

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