BP: "The solution will not be televised" / UPDATED

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  1. robbersdog says:

    They’re expecting it to go well then…

  2. Anonymous says:

    I love it…

    “I am under the impression that they’re doing the video feed by parking ROVs next to the leak points and leaving the video on.”

    I agree…

    I counter:

    “My impression is that they will use top_kill at the blow-off “preventer” not at the broken pipe which is at the sea-floor quite a distance away, and which is at this point, being filmed.”

  3. rpink says:

    They should do pay-per-view. I’d pay $50 to watch if the $50 went to a cleanup fund.

  4. Lucifer says:

    The smoke monster did make it out of the island after all and it will destroy the world…

  5. hbl says:

    It’s a great great shame that one of the worst environmental disasters in recorded history had to give birth to one of the most monumentally incredible puns in recorded history.

  6. Anonymous says:

    In the only defense of BP I will likely utter, they aren’t going to waste the ROV’s time on televising something which will only be Monday Morning Quarterbacked live by the idiot media (CNN anchors telling you what you are seeing and “explaining” it as if they have a clue.) I don’t blame them. I’ve worked offshore and have been stunned at the totally wrong, incomplete and ignorant explanations I’ve heard from the media throughout this mess.

    If it doesn’t work it will be obvious pretty quickly, if it does, ditto. Not sure what anyone thinks they will hide.

  7. austintx says:

    Can people in the Press please stop talking about BP “plugging the leak”?

    BP has done nothing to plug the leak, and they don’t intend to. Everything they’ve been doing, from the start, has been to SAVE THE WELL.

    They’ve dawdled for over a month, poisoning the Gulf, when they could have plugged it up within hours using explosives, big slabs of concrete, or something to pinch the pipe shut.

    Furthermore, they’ve been using a more toxic, less effective dispersant because of their financial ties to the company which makes that inferior product.

  8. DWittSF says:

    I haven’t been around here much lately–has there been a discussion about Iran’s offer to help plug the well?

    In Tehran, Mehran Alinejad, head of special drilling operations at the National Iranian Drilling Co, said Iran had successfully dealt with huge oil leaks in the past, particularly when rigs were bombed during a war with Iraq in the 1980s.

    “Iranian technical teams have had major achievements in oil well capping compared with which the Gulf of Mexico oil rig is no feat,” he told the IRNA news agency.

    http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_iran-offers-us-help-to-combat-oil-spill-in-gulf-of-mexico_1386862

    Obviously, the US corporate media is not eager to report on this.

    I’ve dismissed the idea that this is ‘Obama’s Katrina,’ because the initial failure was clearly a result of the Reaganite fever dream of self/no-regulation, however, what if the Gulf is being sacrificed so that the drumbeat of war against Iran can continue unabated, while BP tries to save its well, rather than the Gulf?

    Imagine the horror of Iran helping to fix this catastrophe…who would be horrified?

    • Ugly Canuck says:

      People who want the next war, upon another oil field.

    • IronEdithKidd says:

      Unless Iran has experience plugging wells located a mile under water, their offer is nothing more than propaganda for the home crowd to consume.

      An offer of assistance from Fidel Castro would be taken more seriously.

      • Ugly Canuck says:

        One never knows. Wouldn’t hurt to hear what they had to say, instead of dismissing it out of hand, perhaps.
        As to Cuba: that nation is directly in the line of fire. Best to keep comments about Cuba sotto voce, as this thing may well involve them, before too long.
        Politics ought to take a back seat – and stay there – while the engineers are at work: in emergency situations with much at stake, there is little to be gained from criticism (even the most justified) while the emergency yet continues. Once the thing is under control: THAT will be the correct time to give with both barrels on the critiques, and their attendant political wrangles.

        IMHO, haste makes waste: and IIRC, the relief drilling will take some time yet.
        I hope that everything anybody does to help, does help.

        Ands this is no “exxon valdez”…IIRC, no one died in that accident…

      • Ugly Canuck says:

        On second thoughts, the Persian gulf is rather shallow. Perhaps like their offer to assist.

        • Trotsky says:

          >> On second thoughts, the Persian gulf is rather shallow. Perhaps like their offer to assist.

          Or just maybe the United States is not the most advanced nation on earth and is not the Heaven sanctified repository of all that is innovative and efficient and Iran’s offer is 100% legitimate. Is it so hard to believe that Iran might know something the US does not? Why?

  9. Anonymous says:

    Stop that! this is not a natural disaster, this is a human made Disaster…

    never a Natural disaster in the history of the earth realise Petroleum from 15000 feet deep under the deep Ocean.

    earthquake, tornado etc , those are NATURAL Disaster…….

  10. Anonymous says:

    The happy-fun live internet video feed of oil spewing at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico requires Silverlight to view. BP really are evil.

  11. Der says:

    >(and save BP’s well, a highly valuable asset)

    Unless I’m mistaken, federal regulations require the well be stopped with a relief well and then plugged. Neither the original Macondo well nor the relief well(s) will ever–can ever–be produced.

    So far from being a “highly valuable asset,” BP’s well is about as far underwater as you can get (in every sense of the word).

  12. Trotsky says:

    Why are BP executives not being waterboarded at Guantanamo as we speak (with the evidence itself washing up on the shore of the prison)? Is our justice system only good for prosecuting teenagers who pirate episodes of South Park?

    I am not fucking kidding.

    We live in a banana republic.

    I mean… really… terrorists? Could they ever in their wildest, wettest dreams inflict the level of damage that BP has? BP is what Al Qaeda aspires to be when it grows up.

  13. Anonymous says:

    We’re all bastards, we all use oil.

  14. Trotsky says:

    While an ocean is dying, a 15 year-old Pakistani cabbie is being waterboarded in an outsourced black facility in an isolated building in Bucharest, or any of hundreds of other hidden nodes in our international prison network.

    Meanwhile, every couple of days, “our” president holds a press conference where he tells BP: “Plug that hole! I mean it!”

    That’s what America is doing today.

  15. Trotsky says:

    The other thing is this argument that the federal government has no “authority” to compel BP.

    Did that stop us from invading Afghanistan, Iraq, or the CIA kidnapping terror suspects in Italy, Germany, or anywhere else we please? In the US, might has always made right.

    When has rule of law, international or domestic, *EVER* been an impediment to executive will? If Obama cannot find legal grounds to take over BP, sign an executive order. That’s what all the other presidents do.

    But Obama is bound by chains that he cannot break. Because the law has suddenly become sacred. How convenient.

  16. Trotsky says:

    I despise Bush, but he went to bat for his team.

  17. EH says:

    Yo, Fever Dream, we get it.

    I like the idea of auditing the MMS.

  18. theawesomerobot says:

    If any OSX users out there want to see the stream and keep getting a “missing plug-in” message on the BP page this link will prompt you to download a file, which you can then open in VLC to view the stream: http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:46245.asx?bkup=46260

  19. DJBudSonic says:

    Why haven’t they requested the coordination of every type of cargo ship or freighter that could be loaded with rock; every cement hauling ship that is available from the US East coast and Gulf states, Mexico and Central and South America, begin heading toward the site. In the meantime they could surround the structure with an open-topped “funnel” not unlike the one they welded up before, with supports against pressure, and put it over the hole. then start pumping concrete and gravel down there into the “funnel”, then start dumping rocks and cement on top of it all? All I can think is that they don’t want to lose the drilling work they have done, but, too bad. Call in the Navy please!

  20. eerd says:

    My impression is that BP was hoping to not show the operation because the top kill, which will take two days, could lead to what looks like more oil coming out of Macondo.
    “Very significant changes in the appearance of the flows at the seabed may be expected. These will not provide a reliable indicator of the overall progress, or success or failure, of the top kill operation as a whole.”
    Also, BP is going to be working as hard as it can to plug this, I’m not sure the federal government would do any better.
    Can’t remember who said it, but they dismissed comparisons to Exxon Valdez, said it was more like going to the moon.
    The one thing people should be grateful for is that it’s only in 5,000 feet of water, rather than 10,000.

  21. Guysmiley says:

    BP has done nothing to plug the leak, and they don’t intend to. Everything they’ve been doing, from the start, has been to SAVE THE WELL.

    They’ve dawdled for over a month, poisoning the Gulf, when they could have plugged it up within hours using explosives, big slabs of concrete, or something to pinch the pipe shut.

    BWAHAHAHAAHAHA! That’s almost as good as “WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON” or “9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB”. Keep saying that, often and loudly. It makes for a convenient way of identifying the rubes.

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    • IWood says:

      Wow. I was going to go with a simple “You don’t sound like you know what you’re talking about” in my reply to austintx. But…yeah. It’s bad enough without confabulation, you know?

  22. Anonymous says:

    Why are BP executives not being waterboarded at Guantanamo as we speak (with the evidence itself washing up on the shore of the prison)? Is our justice system only good for prosecuting teenagers who pirate episodes of South Park?

    Are you crazy? No crime has committed, right? (did I miss something?). This is an unfortunate accident, and BP and everyone else has been working full steam to stop it. Just because it hasn’t been stopped as fast as we would like doesn’t mean anyone is doing anything wrong. All this talk talk about BP deliberately dragging their feet or trying to save the well (already challenged above) starts to sound like those ‘doctors are trying to keep you sick’ conspiracies. There’s no argument, self-interested or otherwise, to delay stopping the spill.

    I for one believe that everything that can be done is being done. It kinda sucks that we’re still talking about this a month after the accident — ok an understatement — but sometimes that’s how the world works.

  23. bobhughes says:

    First it’s the oil royalties payments scandal of 2008, where the Minerals Management Service received junkets, cocaine, and sexual favors from oil company employees. Now we have the gulf oil spill. How bad is it going to have to get before we do something about are government whoring itself out (literally in some cases) to big businesses? Why aren’t these MMS clowns behind bars yet? Hell, where are all the lynch mobs?

  24. Zan says:

    They put a disclaimer on the webcam feed now:

    Throughout the extended top kill procedure – which may take up to two days to complete – very significant changes in the appearance of the flows at the seabed may be expected. These will not provide a reliable indicator of the overall progress, or success or failure, of the top kill operation as a whole. BP will report on the progress of the operation as appropriate and on its outcome when complete.

    • grimc says:

      Somebody needs to immediately contact BP and tell them that they need those camera-toting HOVs to help in the procedure.

  25. millrick says:

    while i imagine that all the ROVs will be too busy to assign one to dedicated camera duty while BP attempts the repair, it should be noted that all ROVs feed video to the surface when operating. granted BP would have to assign a technician to oversee the broadcast/webcast, but the only thing holding back BP is their reluctance to fail yet again while broadcasting live to the world. if they’re successful, the video will be shared with everyone.

  26. Anonymous says:

    I suspect they don’t want to show it because the solution is soo simple that if we saw what they did to fix it we would be shocked that it took so long to do in the 1st place.

  27. DJBudSonic says:

    Link to a very cool page of historic photos showing the aftermath of the Santa Barbara spill cleanup:

    http://www.rense.com/general90/barb.htm

  28. Anonymous says:

    If this is any indication, there will be no “kill shot”. BP is continuing to lie about the situation, because, frankly, there is *nothing* that can be done to stop the leak that exploded open the bottom of the ocean floor.

    Good luck, everyone. Possibly the worst environmental catastrophe. Ever.

    Now, if the Koreans only start a shooting war…

  29. George William Herbert says:

    I am under the impression that they’re doing the video feed by parking ROVs next to the leak points and leaving the video on.

    Have those clamoring to keep the realtime video up and running considered that maybe those ROVs are needed to accomplish the operations involved in shutting down the leak with the Top Kill, and that keeping the realtime video feed going during the operation might interfere?

  30. Trotsky says:

    This is only the beginning of a series of criminal revelations which will wind through the court system for decades (before ultimately resulting in complete vindication and absolutely no fine or prison time for BP… if the Exxon Valdez is any indication. And it is.).

    >> By Davis’s estimate, it took 12-15 minutes to get from the rig to the work boat, but it would take another 36-40 hours before they were to return to shore – even though there were dozens of boats in the area and Coast Guard helicopters airlifting the most severely injured to hospital.

    >> Some of the men were openly furious, while others, like Davis, were just numb. He says they were denied access to the onboard satellite phone or radio to call their families.

    >> Lawyers say the isolation was deliberate and that Transocean was trying to wear the men down so they would sign statements denying that they had been hurt or that they had witnessed the explosion that destroyed the rig.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/20/survivor-deepwater-horizon-gulf-oil-explosion

    The injured workers were held until they signed legal waivers.

    BP will try to find a Joseph Hazelwood, Jeff Skilling, or Lynndie England to pin the entire affair on. Some worker will be accused of being intoxicated or negligent and will be made the vessel of wrath for all criminal complaints. Anything to avoid focusing public attention on systemic corruption.

    The Exxon Valdez spilled 21 years ago and Exxon is still contesting that in court. They’ll be contesting it for another 21 years. And 21 more after that. It’s a successful strategy that allows criminal actions to go unpunished if you have deep pockets and can game the system.

    No BP executive will ever see the inside of a prison cell (except the one scapegoat they set up).

  31. George William Herbert says:

    Ah, what I thought. The ROVs are still transmitting, but the ROV they’re using for the uplink is now doing useful stuff checking and working on the top kill, rather than sitting there like a doof watching the leak.

  32. Anonymous says:

    @George William Herbert

    BP? honest reason for limiting info? nope

  33. autopilot says:

    I keep seeing that AP logo in the corner as Nemo or Marlin watching….

  34. Yamara says:

    I’m just waiting for the oil to circulate into the Gulf Stream, pass Iceland as Katla detonates, igniting the spill into a vast wall of Greek Fire that destroys every single rig in the North Sea, and quite a bit of UK shoreline.

    Then we pin it all on David Cameron.

    It happened on the Tories’ watch.

  35. msavage says:

    Article from Las Vegas Review Journal:
    http://www.lvrj.com/news/exxon-valdez-oil-risks-spur-warning-for-gulf-cleanup-crews-93258964.html

    More on the Subject:
    The workers who are cleaning up the oil in the Gulf need to be aware of the chemicals that will be used. I am one of the 11,000+ cleanup workers from the Exxon Valdez oil spill, who is suffering from health issues from that toxic cleanup, without compensation from Exxon.

    My name is Merle Savage; a female general foreman during the Exxon Valdez oil spill (EVOS) beach cleanup in 1989, which turned into 21 years of extensive health deterioration for me, and many other workers. Dr. Riki Ott visited me in 2007 to explain about the toxic spraying on the beaches. She also informed me that Exxon’s medical records and the reports that surfaced in litigation by sick workers in 1994, had been sealed from the public, making it impossible to hold Exxon responsible for their actions.
    http://www.rikiott.com

    Dr. Riki Ott has devoted her life to taking control from corporations and giving it back to We The People. If corporations continue to control our legal system, then We The People become victims. http://www.MovetoAmend.org

    Dr. Riki Ott has written two books; Sound Truth & Corporate Myth$ and Not One Drop. Dr. Ott has investigated and studied the oil spill spraying, and quotes numerous reports in her books, on the toxic chemicals that were used during the 1989 Prince William Sound oily beach cleanup. Black Wave the Film is based on Not One Drop, with interviews of cleanup victims; my interview was featured in the section; Like a War Zone.
    http://www.blackwavethefilm.com

    Exxon developed the toxic spraying; OSHA, the Coast Guard, and the state of Alaska authorized the procedure; VECO and other Exxon contractors implemented it. Beach crews breathed in crude oil that splashed off the rocks and into the air — the toxic exposure turned into chronic breathing conditions and central nervous system problems, along with other massive health issues. Some of the illnesses include neurological impairment, chronic respiratory disease, leukemia, lymphoma, brain tumors, liver damage, and blood disease.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5632208859935499100

    My web site is devoted to searching for EVOS cleanup workers who were exposed to the toxic spraying, and are suffering from the same illnesses that I have. Our summer employment turned into a death sentence for many — and a life of unending medical conditions for the rest of us – Exxon’s Collateral Damaged.
    http://www.silenceinthesound.com/stories.shtml
    http://www.silenceinthesound.com/gallery.shtml

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