TSA dumps Grandpa's cremains all over airport, laughs at distraught relative as he picks bone fragments off the floor

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  1. Kevin Sole says:

    This … may be, the single-worst thing I have heard in my life. People who disrespect those who have passed are scum, and my heart sincerely breaks at the thought of this person having to pick up his bones and ashes off the floor.

  2. Agent Smith says:

    Look. It’s one of those things that’s only funny if you’re there. 

    • Rob says:

      I think if you have the average education, IQ, and respect for others that a TSA agent has, you wouldnt have to have been there to find it funny.

  3. Work_Watch_Buy_Repeat says:

    “I was told later on that she had no right to even open it”

    The TSA has no ‘rights’.  And certainly no power to perform non-consensual searches.

    Citizens have rights.  But if you don’t understand — and exercise — your rights as a citizen, they eventually stop being your rights.

    • johnny15150 says:

      recently my mom passed in Florida . RIP 
      WHEN i flew back  , a young  male from TSA asked if I had a problem with being patted down and  will be “touching your bottom” 
      the loaded question , “of course I have a problem”  so they Detained me long enough to miss my plane , then handed me a phone alleging it was the FBI , I still was not intimidated but I had the choice of finding alt travel  , so after being molested , groped if you will I said this is very “unamerican”

      I came to the conclusion that this TSA and the patriot act are an attack on the american people.
      they had full body scanners , exrays  they were not looking for weopons of mass destruction they were looking for drugs 

      disgusting

      • elchip says:

        Glad to know I’m not the only one who remembers the Patriot Act — I plan to keep in mind who re-signed it when voting this year.

      • Tell us more about this phone call from the FBI. Did they hand you a phone and tell you it was the FBI like when I was a babysitter pretending to call the parents so the kids would go to bed?

    • Sigmund_Jung says:

      You have no rights. It isn’t a right if someone can take it away from you. You have privileges.

      – George Carlin

  4. TMWaH says:

    I really hope that the screener is charged with indignities to a corpse, because Jesus Christ, this is absolutely horrifying. I can only hope that the mainstream media picks this up and runs with it, because this kind of wanton carelessness and cruelty really can’t be ignored.

  5. Samsa says:

    You’re going to post stuff where someone on the internet just “claims” stuff? This is your bar?

  6. How many people board a plane on average. I don’t understand why you people don’t just walk right over them. What are they gonna do? Taser 400 people? What they are doing and the whole Agency is illegal and unconstitutional. Why are you not taking these clowns and vandals to your courts? Charging them with felonies, crimes, and misdemeanors. How about treason and assault against the United States of America. Where has the land of the free and home of the brave moved to?

  7. Thomas Valley says:

    Half the horror of this article is in the comments section.  Controversial subjects like this bring the worst out in people, apparently.

  8. PathogenAntifreeze says:

    I can’t be the only reader who is completely unsurprised by this.  La-and of the Freeeee, and the Home of the Brrrrraaaave.

  9. BillStewart2012 says:

    That’s one of those times you yell “Stop that and get your supervisor now!”, but of course the TSA supervisor will authoritatively tell you that his employee is following the rules that have always existed and you should know it and obey.

    And if you do get the supervisor afterwards, there’s really only one thing they can do about it, which is to declare the area to be a biohazard zone and not let any more passengers through it for the day, making sure to tell everybody that it’s your fault.

  10. benher says:

    The TSA’s assy antics are always made worse by their snarky attitudes. Being forced to bite my tongue as these nobs chuckled and made racial slurs against my partner for fear that we’d never be able to fly again was the nadir of my travel to the United States last spring. 

    • Work_Watch_Buy_Repeat says:

      For what it’s worth, TSA line employees don’t yet have easy access to a discretionary mechanism for putting a permanent blackmark on your record.  It’s still only Police State Lite at the TSA checkpoint. So far.

      Not so for the *much* more powerful (and often far more abusive) US Customs officers that are encountered at international arrivals: if they decide that you have “failed the attitude check”, they can easily flag your name in their national database, and make your every US border crossing a living Hell thereafter.

      • digi_owl says:

        Police state claims may well be the only place where i accept a absolutist stance.

        Seriously, how can one have a “lite” police state?

      • Marc Mielke says:

        I believe anyone with any authority whatsoever is bound to abuse it eventually. 

      • Death of Cool says:

        I can totally attest to “if they decide that you have “failed the attitude check”, they can easily flag your name in their national database, and make your every US border crossing a living Hell thereafter.”

        This happened to me after I *suspiciously* crossed the border to visit friends in the US in my early twenties. The flags that seemed to raise their ire: that I owned property at that age, and that I flinched a little when they brought out their great, big, scary drug-sniffing dogs. It obviously never occurred to them that I simply could be intimidated by big, strange dogs, and not have something to hide. 

        After that, every single flight I took to the US involved getting pulled into the little room to have my luggage completely searched and disassembled while I was grilled about my life and travel plans. 

        It took eight years – and a nice, understanding US customs agent – to finally free me from that inappropriately branded suspicion. And, I’m happy to say, since then I’ve never had another search, hold up or problem crossing the border. 

        But those eight years were hell. 

    • Navin_Johnson says:

       Why didn’t you complain?

      • kringlebertfistyebuns says:

        What difference would it make?  Especially when assclowns discount, deride and minimize every “isolated” incident.

  11. JohnQPublic says:

    On the TSA’s brave stand against terror, I’ve read about old ladies in wheelchairs being forced to disconnect their colostomy bag, little girls being fondled, nursing mothers being forced to demonstrate lactation equipment in public, and now a man’s remains are handled like trash.  and still no real public outcry.  Just a bunch of us nerds acting outraged on an internet forum for a moment and going about our business quietly, not making a single wave.

    • SomeGuyNamedMark says:

      I always thought when it happened to the average folk they’d be forced to change but I guess not.  The terrorist boogeyman trumps grandma and little kids.

      • Jim Nelson says:

        And being too goddamn tired, and afraid of the tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees it would take if we violated one of the nebulous ‘rules’ the TSA sports. Not everyone is willing to be the Judas goat for their liberties – they just want to get this damn flight over so they can attend the East Central Division Regional Meeting for Doodads and Widgets.

        It’s mostly a matter of not giving a shit anymore.

        Let them do what they want – after all, it’s for *those* people, right? Not for good, honest Americans. You’ll never be targeted if you follow the rules and keep your head down.

        And until they get pulled into the gears of this system, that attitude serves them very well. It’s the same attitude that let people ignore the Gulag. And other, Godwin-level vileness…

    • ocatagon says:

       and not taking airplanes anymore.

    • johnny15150 says:

      the wave is there , its small but when the wave reaches its destination, it gains momentum
      just like “change”
      babysteps

  12. crashed says:

    Isn’t it a crime to improperly dispose of a dead body, couldn’t the TSA agent be arrested for that?

  13. Hakuin says:

    how odd.  So many years now,  so many passengers – and yet,  not ONE single TSA agent has been killed where they stood for outrageous provocation.

    Why is that, do you suppose?

    • Theranthrope says:

      It more important to point out: THE TSA HAS CAUGHT ZERO TERRORISTS TO DATE.
      None.
      Nada.
      Not one.
      Zip.
      Zilch.
      A perfect batting average of 0000.

      • digi_owl says:

        And their boss will use that as a argument that the system works…

        • Judas Peckerwood says:

          Hey, it’s like the Anti-Lion Karmic Crystal I wear around my neck. Five years in Seattle and not a single lion attack to date!

        • Ryan Lenethen says:

           I haven’t caught any using my system, proving it also works. I am also going to throw out there I will provide this service to the US government for 0.25 of whatever they pay the TSA. Bargain! You can put the other 0.75 towards “balancing the budget” (wink wink, nudge nudge)

      • johnny15150 says:

        The TSA has molested american citizens I got it because I have tattoos
        anyone know the TSA budget? millions
        hey they are jobs right?
        did the guards at Auschwitz enjoy such benefits?

        • HahTse says:

           Duuuuuude. Not cool. The TSA gropes people. The guards at Auschwitz killed people. See the difference?

          But yeah, they did.

          • Antinous / Moderator says:

            You have to start somewhere, and dehumanizing your fellow citizens is a pretty good place.

          • HahTse says:

            That slippery slope is a little too steep, even for me…

          • Antinous / Moderator says:

            Do you honestly believe that if a supervisor ordered TSA employees to take a passenger into a back room and torture him, that a significant percentage of them wouldn’t comply without making any objection?

          • HahTse says:

            Of course not. Milgram’s experiments are still valid.

            But jumping from a few instances of crass misbehavior to genocide IS a pretty steep slippery slope.

          • JontKopeck says:

             Well Hitler became Chancellor in 1933, the first death camps were commissioned in 1942. Where did they find the talent to run them? Whether they trained them up or found them in the wild, you have to admit those are HR skills most foul. How slippery would you like your slope today?

          • benher says:

            We have a president who authorizes drones to slay US civilians. Concentration camps an uncomfortable subject? We had them in the 40s on US soil. Your “concern” for Johnny’s slippery slope is understood, but you must surely see that the slope upon which your nation rests is of far greater slip-ti-tude.

          • HahTse says:

            My nation?

            …I’m German.

          • johnny15150 says:

            while the sheeple sat back and helped by not doing anything

        • Navin_Johnson says:

           Ridiculous, childish,  and offensive comparison to all parties involved.

        • Navin_Johnson says:

           @JontKopeck:disqus If you want real examples of *torture* and murder you only have to look to the armed services and many U.S. police forces.  No need to make such ridiculous paranoid theories about working stiff TSA folks.

          • JontKopeck says:

            I think the comparisons are valid, since we’re talking about basic human nature via the Milgram experiment. The magnitude of the [inhumanity*] is greatly different, that should be clear.

            *really, the behaviour here is no less human. Whatever we do, that is us.

          • Navin_Johnson says:

            “I think the comparisons are valid”

            How pathetic, sad and embarrassing.  A grown “adult” comparing the TSA to the REAL horrors and genocide of the holocaust.  Shame on you.

      • benher says:

        Don’t tell the TSA – zeros are an ARABIC INVENTION!!!

    • occula says:

      Because no matter how outrageous the provocation, most people trying to catch their flight just aren’t murderers?

    • Navin_Johnson says:

      Probably because millions and millions of people are constantly flying and considering these numbers, these incidents are not that numerous, and are often exaggerated stories by idiots or people deliberately trying to provoke a reaction.

      • unclemike says:

        I know every time I fly with a loved one’s ashes I deliberately try to provoke a reaction. It’s how I mourn.

        Read the original article, Navin.

  14. jpnewyork says:

    when TSA agents  go to parties, do they tell people what they do for a living?

    • penguinchris says:

      Last year I went out for a while with a girl who worked as a TSA screener. To be fair to her (and myself) she is completely unlike any TSA screener I’ve encountered in my frequent travels. 

      But – a couple of interesting points. It took something like a month before I could get her to reveal where she worked – she was (rightfully) deeply embarrassed about it and I think even some people in her immediate family didn’t know, and most of her friends didn’t know. She worked early morning shifts at John Wayne airport in Orange County CA.

      She had some stories but I could tell that there was a lot she wouldn’t talk about – she said of course that she couldn’t talk about it or she could get fired (or worse) but I suspect she didn’t want to admit to me (or perhaps to herself) that she just stood by and watched as other TSA screeners were being dicks.

      She did relate to me that once somebody complained to her supervisor about something she did (and I believe her when she says it was a spurious complaint). This had serious consequences – the supervisor took it seriously and she got into trouble. Ultimately she received no sanctions – I’m sure they all cover for each other to some extent – but I think it may actually be helpful to make formal complaints (only if they do something that’s actually dickish, which admittedly is a low bar to overcome when it comes to the TSA).

      • digi_owl says:

        John Wayne airport, Orange County CA? Not sure if i should chuckle or worry…

        And i suspect it is for her as it is for straight cops around corrupt cops, if she speaks up they may not cover her back when push comes to shove…

      • Judas Peckerwood says:

        She sounds like a really GOOD Ger… I mean TSA agent!

      • Navin_Johnson says:

        I’m sure with the way they are politically vilified that she would be hesitant to say.  Probably much of it has to do with class as well.  Many people would look down on her for having to do such a job, something that is glaringly exhibited by entitled Boing Boing readers (and trolls) every time one of these sensationalist stories pops up.  Much of the anger here is about entitled people feeling that having to follow rules enforced by lower class workers is beneath them and simply intolerable.

        • Richard Dagenais says:

          Oh FFS now BB readers are the 1%?

          These agents are empowered by the state, elevating them to an authority status. That’s why TSA critics spend so much time reminding people of the limits of their powers, to dispel some of their perceived authority.

          The outrage against the TSA and the administration of it is different from the reaction to these individual encounters.

          When an agency treats the public with such disrespect, they are criticized. Its an institution and everyone understands that institutions on the whole are inefficient and flawed.

          When an individual treats another individual with this kind of disrespect, its personal and this quite justifiably inspires powerful emotional reactions.

          • Navin_Johnson says:

            Oh FFS now BB readers are the 1%?

            Probably not, I would say more like financially comfortable “lifestyle liberals”.

            As for the rest, it’s a cop out. 1.7 million fly every single day. This is manufactured, class driven, political “outrage”.

        • Antinous / Moderator says:

          You really never quit with this, do you? Championing “the workers” when they do the work of totalitarian government agencies is fascist apologism. This attitude is what allows fascism to take hold.

          • Navin_Johnson says:

            I don’t, because it’s obvious bullshit.  Put your antenna up already, this is an otherwise smart site, but the libertarian, entitled shit is pathetic.

            Also, no reply to Obama being the one who in the end appoints the head of the TSA and who is ultimately responsible for these policies……

            Silence is deafening…..

          • Antinous / Moderator says:

            Defending the working class against imagined enemies was the Third Reich’s whole propaganda effort. Please stop repeating it.

          • Navin_Johnson says:

            Defending the working class against imagined enemies was the Third Reich’s whole propaganda effort. Please stop repeating it.

            Nicely done, now like many black, white, latino, asian, etc. working class people trying to pay their bills:  I’m a “nazi” too…..

            Championing “the workers” when they do the work of totalitarian government agencies is fascist apologism. This attitude is what allows fascism to take hold.

            So I expect you will work to have Obama’s “totalitarian” “nazi” government kicked out?  Right?  Yeah, I thought so.  

            Congrats.  I’m just glad you didn’t employ: “socialist”, “reverse racism”, “gay agenda”, “PC police”, or “nazi”….wait!!..oh shit…you did…

        • penguinchris says:

          Yeah, you’re right, in part. She came from a poor family – Hmong refugees actually – and is working her way through college. For her circumstances the TSA was the only thing she could get that paid well enough and worked with her schedule. 

          Knowing the specific circumstances that led one person in particular to work as a TSA screener should help me empathize a little bit, but it doesn’t… one of the reasons we stopped seeing each other after a couple of months is related to the fact that she didn’t really see a problem with the concept of the TSA in general. Kind of incompatible world views :)

          Of course, in reality at least 2/3 of TSA screeners are not bad at all. You just don’t notice them. I’m sure there are a lot of people out there like the one I knew. But like with cops, being complicit is essentially just as bad.

  15. Bob Dunkin says:

    I was just going to suggest that this might be the crime of “desecration of human remains”. It IS an actual crime, but I’m not sure where the line is drawn…
    But, I will say this: Any person who thinks it’s okay to open up a jar labelled “Human Remains” and poke around inside needs to think long and hard about what they’re doing.

  16. you get who you vote for…

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      Unless I missed a big news story, the TSA isn’t elected.

      • digi_owl says:

        And the only way any elected official may get that particular rabid cat back in the bag is by having the whole hill on his or her side. Not going to happen when even internally there is fracture lines over taxes, healthcare and whatsnot.

      • ffabian says:

        Guess what … those Gestapo-guys weren’t elected too.

        The USian stance toward the atrocities committed by their government is a clear case of double standards.

        WWII: Those nazi-german bastards did it.
        German Gov. denies tax exempt status to Scientology: *points finger* Look! Those nazi-genes rearing their ugly head again!
        Post-9/11 torture camp: Well … some misguided souls working for my government did it … aaaand I never voted for Bush anyway.

      • Navin_Johnson says:

        The head of the TSA is appointed by Obama as you all well know.  Much easier to rip on poor workers though, and dutifully defend the elite that set their policies. Soooo if all these childish “Nazi” comparisons are valid, then who is Obama’s historical counterpart? lol!! You know who! The H man!!

        Pistole was nominated by President Barack Obama to serve as Administrator of the Transportation Security Administration on 17 May 2010 and was unanimously confirmed to serve in that position by the United States Senate on 25 June 2010. On 16 November 2010 Pistole defended his agency’s new extensive pat-down procedures and Advanced Imaging Technology (A.I.T) as necessary.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Pistole

  17. novium says:

    I’m kind of surprised this happened in Orlando. I just went through security there- twice, due to a delayed flight- a few days ago and it was probably my most pleasant interaction with the TSA ever. Well, at least the guys checking IDs in the front- they were very convivial, asking people how they liked Florida, joking back, gently teasing a couple of shy kids about being secret agents. I was actually shocked. But I guess the people running the scanners and such were the usual drones. Still. 

    • penguinchris says:

      Being friendly is good, obviously, but when they act like that – making jokes and so on – it makes me extremely uncomfortable. Worse when it’s customs people at the Canadian border (the ones at international airports are never friendly) because I always feel like they’re trying to trick me, even when they aren’t (though usually they really are).

      • novium says:

        I think I know what you mean, but there was nothing forced about this, it didn’t seem insincere…really, my best guess is that the main guy was just one of those people who likes chatting with people and who was livening up an otherwise painfully dull job. 

        • penguinchris says:

          Yeah – there have been times when it seemed like they were sincere and were just trying to alleviate dullness and boredom, but as someone with asperger’s-like symptoms it’s often difficult for me to tell.

      • MythicalMe says:

         Going north or south? I’m a dual citizen now, but I always found traveling into Canada much better than traveling home. Of course I was traveling into Canada almost every weekend to visit my soon-to-be wife and the border guards knew this (I swear that they about cheered when I presented my permanent residence paperwork).

        On the flip side the US border guards were less congenial and once my, then, wife a licensed physician was stopped and questioned for 30 minutes about some prescription drug samples she had in her purse (like she was going to smuggle 15 pouches with 2 tablets of Norvasc, meant for treating hypertension, for sale on the black market). Some supervisor finally decided that as a doctor she had legal permission to carry small quantities of drugs.

        • Judas Peckerwood says:

          Fuck yes. In my extensive border-crossing experience, Canadian border officers without exception have acted like concerned public servants. In contrast, the US  officers have inevitably been douche-y cowboys who act that they are at war with their fellow Americans and are just itching for an excuse to fuck with you/blow you away.

          Someday I’m just going to stay on the other side.

        • I used to travel to Canada weekly for work. It was usually ok, though inefficient. Then one day I was detained for hours because I brought a printer to demo to a client. Much of the time I was locked in a room by myself. Then I was subjected to lectures about Walmart. It was surreal.

        • penguinchris says:

          Mainly going into the US. I grew up in Buffalo NY, a border town, and went back and forth fairly frequently. I am living at home right now and have gone to Toronto a few times for various reasons in the last few months and the border experience is always awful (I’m a young male traveling by myself), although when I went to a comics convention in Toronto recently the US customs guy was more interested in that (and asked about what kind of comics I like) than asking me the normal questions ;)

          Notably though it has gotten a lot worse in recent years going into Canada as well, though they’re only up to the point that the US border people were several years ago.

          I’ve been mistaken for people on the terrorist watch list coming into the US (they had me in a room for an hour while I guess they were checking if my passport was real), and I’ve had people on the Canadian side be extremely rude and belligerent toward me for small mistakes in paperwork (I’ve worked at a summer camp in Canada and other things like that so I have more experience with them than simply crossing the border to go shopping).

  18. I’ve never heard of bone fragments being in cremains. There certainly weren’t any among my mother’s when we scattered them. In fact, from what I understand, the majority of the ash is from the box that the body was cremated in (the human body is, after all, mostly water, which evaporates). If this story is true, it’s certainly horrible. But it sounds embellished to me.

  19. Facultatieve Technologies  Makes the Cremulator, a ball mill for the pulverization of Human remains . Some cultures/religions dont want the remains  processed at all, the bone bits are kept in a family reliquary.  But in North america , more cremains are processed to a 60 screen size (a screen with 60 holes per inch).  the cremains are Sterile and safe to handle, but as still legally considered “human Remains”.  

  20. SedanChair says:

    OK, I have to admit I burst out laughing at the title of this post. I am totally inured to my own outrage. I have achieved some kind of satori like that of starving 19th century Russian intellectuals. Fuck it

  21. Mitchell Glaser says:

    The victim in the article is demanding an apology from the TSA. I say fuck that! An apology from the TSA will accomplish exactly nothing.

  22. Aeron says:

    TSA workers shouldn’t be fired. Oh no, they should be lined up against a wall and summarily executed.

    I used to joke that all TSA employees were drug addicts and mental patients in some useless rehabilitation program… but now, I really think they are.

  23. Fisher1949 says:

    This screener is a disgrace. She spills human ashes then laughs at the passenger struggling to collect them, what kind of animal does that? This is what we get when TSA hires high school dropouts with rap sheet, gives them a mall cop badge and allows them to harass innocent people with impunity.

    Yet another case where a TSA screener disobeyed regulations, abused their position and caused harm to a passenger. This is the same agency that allows a known pedophile, Thomas Harkin, to stay on as a supervisor in Philadelphia.

    TSA and the airlines refer to passengers as “fares” and have absolutely no regard for the feelings or welfare of the passenger. They regularly treat us with less respect than a freight shipment.

    Every other occupation is accountable for their actions including police, medical personnel and teachers. If they exceed their authority or abuse their position, the victim can prosecute the individual and sue their employer.

    There are laws to protect citizens from abuses by police for a reason and the same standards should be applied to TSA.

    It is unacceptable to continue to allow these creeps to harass and humiliate people on a whim. The agent should be prosecuted for desecrating human remains and the agency sued for damages

  24. PJG says:

    Can we start an IndieGoGo campaign to fund a massive civil suit against the TSA? Or maybe just give Mr Gross a nice cruise vacation?

  25. irny says:

    I have seen so many horror stories about TSA and their appalling treatment of members of the public, and am sufficiently bothered by the body scanners and retina scans, that I would genuinely think twice about whether or not I would fly to America if I had to go there.

  26. emo hex says:

    We have met the terrorist, and he is us.

  27. teapot says:

    I’m happy I’ve not had to deal with any TSA-era American airports. Reading the comments for these kinds of TSA-did-something-stupid posts is like watching a thriller where the plot gets so ridiculous you lose the ability to suspend disbelief while simultaneously having you hooked because of its raw stupidity.

  28. wilmcdaniel says:

    WALTER
    Shit, I’m sorry Dude.

    He starts brushing off the Dude with his hands.

    WALTER
    Goddamn wind.

    Heretofore motionless, the Dude finally explodes, slapping Walter’s hands away.

    DUDE
    Goddamnit Walter! You fucking asshole!

    WALTER
    Dude! Dude, I’m sorry!

    The Dude is near tears.

    DUDE
    You make everything a fucking travesty!

    WALTER
    Dude, I’m–it was an accident!

    The Dude gives Walter a furious shove.

    DUDE
    What about that shit about Vietnam!

    WALTER
    Dude, I’m sorry–

    DUDE
    What the fuck does Vietnam have to do with anything! What the fuck were you talking about?!

    Walter for the first time is genuinely distressed, almost lost.

    WALTER
    Shit Dude, I’m sorry–

    DUDE
    You’re a fuck, Walter!

    He gives Walter a weaker shove. Walter seems dazed, then wraps his arms around the Dude.

    WALTER
    Awww, fuck it Dude. Let’s go bowling.

  29. Christopher says:

    Wow, more than a hundred and twenty comments, and yet no one seems to have mentioned this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utHmeN31RT0

  30. nosedigger says:

    So now the TSA is not only sexually groping our children and taking x-rated pictures of our grandmothers, they are also desecrating the remains of our loved ones.  Remind me again how many terrorists have they caught after spending billions of our tax dollars?  That’s right none.  What waste and abuse.

  31. Navin_Johnson says:

    I’m so glad that all of you well be joining me and voting third party in the coming election!

  32. Brandon Wright says:

    @ Trail Blazed

    How does telling everyone to vote third party make him a troll?

  33. That_Anonymous_Coward says:

    Is anyone else waiting to hear how Blogger Bob is going to tell us this was a single isolated incident and shouldn’t be considered a failure of the TSA?

  34. Rob says:

    I don’t believe cremains is a word at all.

  35. niktemadur says:

    I hope so too, the story sounds too extreme, but if it turns out to be true and there is no accountability, the problem would be systemic.

    Just one instance of something like this would be one too many, just ONE innocent citizen abused like this with no accountability should terminate this organization with extreme prejudice and put all involved in a permanent employment blacklist.

    There is no place in a functional society for the following attitude:  “I’ve got a little bit of power and my wife was mean to me this morning, I’m gonna fuck with you people – hey, the powers-that-be protect me, all in the name of Freedom!”

  36. QPhysics says:

    Rob, I believe five seconds of Google search would save you some embarrassment.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/cremains 

  37. SomeGuyNamedMark says:

    Now I have to Google “pedant”

  38. Andrew Pam says:

     “pendant” or “pedant”?

  39. SomeGuyNamedMark says:

    I swear I checked my spelling knowing I’d mess it up.  Ah well, at least I made Antinous happy.

  40. Antinous / Moderator says:

    Or ‘pendejo’?

  41. bryan rasmussen says:

     Hey, if her wife was mean to her this morning I got to say that’s progress in the U.S!

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