Curious press release from phone encryption service


17 Responses to “Curious press release from phone encryption service”

  1. Lupus_Yonderboy says:

    So…what’s their definition of “serious criminal activity”?  Is it the same as Mexico’s?  Iran’s?  Which “law enforcement agencies ” will they “pro-actively assist”?  The same that take SD cards & cameras without warrants?  Or the ones that torture citizens that speak out against the ruling party?

  2. kelseyud says:

    Obvious honeypot is obvious.

  3. Sam Cook says:

    I just wonder how rapidly it becomes a matter of “ah you’re encrypting your phone, must have something to hide, better investigate”.

  4. flickerKuu says:

    What a bunch of bozos.   “Our system will secure your conversation, unless someone actually wants to eavesdrop, in which case we will blow off the entire point of our service and let them do whatever…”

    Great, no thanks.

  5. Eric0142 says:

    Is this a United States based telecommunications provider? Because, under The Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) of 1994, it should be clear that “a telecommunications carrier [has a] duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for Law Enforcement purposes, and for other purposes.”

    • Lupus_Yonderboy says:

      From the website:

      “The Development and Network operations are located in Pretoria, South Africa. Regional presence include the US, Middle East and Australia.”

      • Eric0142 says:

        So what does having a presence in the US mean?

        • Lupus_Yonderboy says:

          That’s the fun part, they leave it completely unstated. Could be “we will accept phone calls from potential clients in these areas” to “we have local offices and can be physically present for depositions”. Or anything, really.

  6. SvenOrtmann says:

    I suspect many such services are actually run by intelligence services to fish for those people they care about the most – people who actually need encryption.

  7. Alan Olsen says:

    Back in the Cypherpunk days we referred to these sort of services as “GATK”. Government Access To Keys. They are encrypted, but the wrong people can decrypt them.

  8. Lemoutan says:

    There’s a whole bunch of chemical innovations which might be brought to bear upon the discouragement of undesirable uses. For instance, an agent might be added to banknotes to generate a rapid exothermic reaction when in contact with cocaine. Or the fabric used to construct safety nets might be transformed into razor-sharp carbon nanotubes when a trapeze artist is suspected of tax-evasion.

  9. Boundegar says:

    If “proactive” means what I think, then Seecrypt is promising they themselves will listen in , and call the cops when they hear something incriminating. Merely responding to every warrant, or warrantless request, well that’s merely “reactive,” right?

  10. maxgriffin says:

    So they can listen in everything and they will decide which information is “public” and which information can be confidential… The other interesting thing is that the price is too low. I don’t think that anybody can operate a service like that from 3 dollars/months… If you listen to me the only way to talk securely is to find an encryption solution from a non USA telecom provider…

  11. Monica Ruedi says:

    You are all missing the point.. My husband knows the company that made this app.  Right now you can be bugged on everyday calls anyway. The main advantage of this app is that you can call overseas using next to no data at 3$ a month. It’s fantastic, I call my husband as he travels for work weekly, it’s clear, quick and works perfectly on wifi, 3G etc. We save a fortune on cell to cell toll calls and it hardly uses any battery, unlike skype, FaceTime, viber etc. Type the promo code M8R8 in when you download the app and you get 6months free instead of 3 months.

  12. amanda norman says:

    it’s not a US telecom provider, it is operates out of South Africa, and registered in the Caymen Islands where Seecrypt is compliant with the laws. Seecrypt itself can’t listen to the phone conversations as the technology is not desgined in that way… Try it, io downloaded it and its brilliant. I am not a spy nor a villain, just a person who would like to have unlimited international calls wherever i am at $3/month. Well now it’s free for a year..

    • ArashiYama says:

      Do you have any connection to SeeCrypt other than as a (presumably) satisfied customer? By this I mean employee, investor, or other paid promotion agent?

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