Example of how the police can search your car without a warrant or your consent [video]

Question: "Am I free to go or am I being detained?"

Answer: "Duh constitution don't apply at checkpoints."

The cops are desperate to bust this young man. They are surprised to discover that they are being videoed.

(Thanks, Mikea)

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  1. Oy!

    I was about to make some uncalled-for regional insult about cops in the US South....when I took a breath and realized that this happens right here in my New England community.

    It's a growing problem. Everyone -- cops, civic leaders, advocates, lawyers, law makers -- need to sit back and talk about it rationally. I don't really blame the cops for being edgy in these situations, but they clearly seem to understand that they are not-so-cleverly skirting the laws regarding constitutional rights. They've got to cut it out.

  2. patros says:

    The cops knew it was bogus, and apparently manufactured grounds to search the car. They were obviously hassling him for standing up for his rights.

    When everyone knows that it's a much bigger hassle to stand up for their rights than to simply cave then most people will start abdicating their rights most of the time. Don't think that was the intent of the constitution.

  3. Spocko says:

    I remember when this first showed up on Reddit. Lots of flames. It was interesting how many people were blaming the guy for "acting suspicious" and being a dick. Then there were the people who were attacking the cops.

    What I find interesting is the question. Who do you identify with, the cop or the driver? Why?

    When I talk to my Canadian friend about torture her comment about it was very revealing. "When you hear Americans talking about torture they put themselves in the position of the person doing the torture. Rarely as a possible innocent person being tortured." Who you identify with in these stories often makes the difference in how you view the interaction.

    If you see yourself as the kid, were you polite enough? Would you have rolled down your window? If you see yourself as the cop trying to do your job do you think you could have acted different?

    Just curious. I see myself as the kid mostly, but I also think that I might not have gone to that level of confrontation because of my history of knowing and working with people in law enforcement. So that's my point of view, for what it's worth.
    What I really find interesting is what the cops say before during and after they find out they are being video taped.

  4. I'm not actually sure what this mess I just watched is. For a DUI checkpoint (in most places anyhow, particularly ones running checkpoints) you do in fact have to roll your window down so the cop and test your breath or at least smell it. That's... sort of the point.

    Honestly, the problem begins with calling a dog in and searching the car just because they want to be asshats back to an annoyance - and they severely overstepped their position while skirting inside what's technically allowed. It really goes back to these guys being barely educated, hazed into a culture of never contradicting each other in public, and dealing with the public day in and day out. It's a cocktail for major abuses with the ability to excuse their abuse with bigotry.

    EDIT

    What a defense attorney says about traffic stops.

  5. I was pulled over two weeks ago. It was one of the weirdest experiences of my life. I sure wish that I had recorded it. But I did write it up for social media as: "Pip and the Fake Cop". Little good that it does me.

    If I had set up my equipment to record at exactly the same angle that the kid in the above video did, then I would have still gotten nothing but a voice. The guy I write about in "Pip and the Fake Cop" always stood well back, so that when I tried to look at him, I had to look into his white spotlight from his vehicle. All I ever saw of him was his outline.

    Just be aware, any schmoe can put a red light on his vehicle.

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