Pirate Party takes two EuroParl seats!

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28 Responses to “Pirate Party takes two EuroParl seats!”

  1. PurpleFlagship says:

    Damn, many apologies. The ones dementing the two observers are the officials at the EuroParl office in Sweden. My opinion on the National Election Authority still stands, they just aren’t responsible for this particular snafu.

  2. LennStar says:

    Yeah! ;)

    seats, sizes etc. http://www.elections2009-results.eu/en/index_en.html

    official swedish site: http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html
    wedish only, but the PP is not hard to find ;)

  3. LennStar says:

    addition:
    in the article, you may wonder “We have fulfilled our minimal goal of 0,5%. Now we can start up for real!””
    Thats because from 0,5% on you get money up to half of your Partys income from the state as a help. “Parteienfinanzierung”

  4. strumpet windsock says:

    Thanks for the info Ranryu, I appreciate it.

    …and anonymous, settle down. I was asking a fair question, not making accusations.

    And this matter is serious enough that I think these questions SHOULD be asked so it can be clarified. The thought didn’t even occur to me until I heard about the gains made by ultra-rightists.

    I am completely in favour of a voice for net and copyright freedom, but that doesn’t absolve the party from scrutiny or fair criticism. So long as the party is not influenced by Carl Lundström’s personal views I am happy that they got elected.

    And I guess we’ll find out where they stand when they start voting.

  5. Anonymous says:

    DANEGELD @6
    The Pirate Party UK is being set up now, the manifesto and stuff is being refined and everything else being sorted out before registration.

    pirateparty.org.uk

  6. annoyingmouse says:

    Unfortunately as #6 mentioned above, we in Britain have little to celebrate or be proud of as two members of the fascists were elected. Seeing that holocaust denying, racist, xenophobic, Hitler/Mosely wannabe, piece of scum Griffin attempt to mimic Churchill in celebration photos was sickening and words really can’t describe how ashamed I am of this country right now. If only I could speak Swedish… would you guys let me in?

  7. Pantograph says:

    I for one welcome our new Pirate overlords, and would have voted for them if I could.

    And when those pesky Somalians take to the high seas again, newspapers will lead with the inevitable headline:

    PIRATE PARTY VOTES FOR STRONGER EU ACTION AGAINST PIRACY

  8. hckling says:

    ANNOYINGMOUSE: You’d be more than welcome ;)

  9. Anonymous says:

    I’m with #6.

    It’s disappointing that BB is so caught up in the infinitesimal gains by the PP that they’ve chosen to discount the fact that the right-wing not only dominated most of the European elections–pretty much ensuring more disgusting pro-copyright and anti-privacy laws get passed–but that fringe groups like the BNP have an official voice in the government that makes copyright law look like small fry in comparison.

  10. pomegranate says:

    Cory, going by my memory and a site search for “European Parliament”, this is the first time you’ve covered the election. Any reason considering how much coverage you give to UK and European politics otherwise? Just curious.

  11. Cory Doctorow says:

    Search for “european election” instead.

  12. Robert says:

    To Parrrrrrrrliament for the Pirate Parrrrrrty.

  13. strumpet windsock says:

    Not to put a damper on this story, but I wonder if the Pirate Party reps might not be that fat removed from the fascists.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/26/pirate_bay_neo_nazi/

    When I read this story I started searching Pirate Bay for information to do with the Holocaust (the movie Shoah, for example) and got back some surprising results.

    Good that they are for copyright freedom, but will they be influenced by the beliefs of the pirate bay’s banker?

  14. strumpet windsock says:

    Also wondering if neonazis in Sweden had anything to do with their election results (I sure hope not).

  15. Apreche says:

    I don’t know much about these elections or the European Parliament. However, I’ve been hearing a lot of stuff through the webs about Neo-Nazis and other fringe groups winning seats.

    That leads me to think that either there are so many seats going around that these people can win seats, or that the voter turnout is so low, that vocal minorities win out.

    It’s good to see some legitimacy to the Pirate Party, but these kinds of things make me question how meaningful it really is.

  16. annoyingmouse says:

    Off topic (although reading these comments not too far OT) but for people in the UK concerned with the election results I thought I’d point to http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ a site that sadly I’ve only come across today. Worth a visit.

  17. nerak says:

    where’s the American Pirate Party???

  18. Anonymous says:

    @Strumpet Windsock

    The major flaw in what you’re suggesting is that while the Pirate Party came into being as a result of actions taken against TPB and other such sites, there are no official ties between the two. Nice try at making controversy where none exists, though.

  19. Anonymous says:

    @18: Nah, Rick Falkvinge, the party leader, is certainly leaning heavily to the right himself as I understand it, but more in a radical liberal manner; I don’t think there’s even a hint of brown in his blue convictions. (I remember reading some interview where he described himself as a capitalist promoting on-line communism).

  20. Tom Neff says:

    One seat was enough – they can make as many copies as they need.

  21. Takuan says:

    ARRRR!

  22. Anonymous says:

    anyone know how many seats were up for election total? Just curious.

  23. Anonymous says:

    They got 1 spot, not 2, according to all major swedish news sites..

  24. Ranryu says:

    There aren’t even any inofficial ties between the Pirate Party and Pirate Bay. None of the same people are involved. One of the guys behind Pirate Bay is a member of the Green Party. The other two aren’t very politically interested, although one of them is reported as planning to vote for the Pirate Party.

    Neither was there any connection between the formation of the Pirate Party and the legal action against Pirate Bay. This is easily verified by just checking the timeline. The party was registered at the Election Authority in February 2006. The first raid against Pirate Bay took place in May 2006.

  25. PurpleFlagship says:

    It’s a good day to be a pirate! First order of the day, find a group. Second, take down the telecom package!

  26. danegeld says:

    The Pirate Party should run in the UK, too. Hell, BoingBoing should run in the European elections. We need a good cause to soak up the protest vote, in a way that we won’t cause lasting harm.

    The British National Party in England won two seats during the “EuroParl” elections – Deprived of a vote for soma, hundreds of thousands of people chose fascism.(!)

    Nick Robinson from the Beta Broadcasting Corporation described this as “double-plus ungood”.

  27. jackie31337 says:

    Anonymous @4: According to the TorrentFreak article, they are guaranteed one seat, and may gain a second one:

    “Sweden has 20 seats, but until the Lisbon treaty passes only 18 with voting rights. This means that the Pirate Party will have 2 seats.”

  28. PurpleFlagship says:

    @4 & 7 Theres some controversy surrounding the 19th and 20th observer seats. Our national election officials claim they have received no instructions that they are to elect two observers although there has already been lengthy discussions about them on the web and elsewhere. Giving a bunch of people full EU MP pay with no voting rights tend to spark discussions.

    The election authority in Sweden on the other hand aren’t known for their clear understanding of laws and rules. So we will have to wait a while for a final decision on the 19th and 20th seats.

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