One day after pepper-spraying, UC Davis students silently, peacefully confront Chancellor Katehi


132 Responses to “One day after pepper-spraying, UC Davis students silently, peacefully confront Chancellor Katehi”

  1. Alvis says:

    Aspect ratio, shmaspect ratio!  Hmm, and what would be a good codec for my video?  Ooh, how about Cinepak, that sounds good!  And now just dial-down the bitrate as far as I can…

  2. Heh.  Her car allowance is more than $8k per year.

  3. Jill R says:

    That woman has a bad case of the nervous complaint.  She’s likely younger than I though not by much.  Did she think no one would let her know how they felt?  I’d bet money she spewed as soon as she was out of sight.  Instant karma and not a single word or gesture from the students.  Well done, UC Davis students!

  4. burgerbuilders says:

    Silence gets the message across better than yelling. I hope we see more of it.

  5. Seth Eag says:

    Hello Darkness, my old friend…

  6. Tom Tjarks says:

    Those students just sitting and staring at me would unnerve me more than if they were yelling or pushing, etc.  Why?  When being yelled/pushed/etc then you only have to deal with the fight or flight reflex.  By doing this in silence, she had every minute of the walk to
    think about *why* they were there.

  7. Sarah Messbauer says:

    So proud to say that I was there tonight. The greatest words are those left unspoken, and I sincerely hope Katehi got the message.

  8. John Waite says:

    UC-Davis Campus Police wins Brutes-of-the-Month Club honors. Occupy office of university chancellor Linda Katehi. Civil Disobedience Now.

    • Davyne Dial says:

      Brutes of the century…more like it. In the 1990′s there was Rodney King. In 2011 there was  the Officer & Katehi (equally guilty). 

      • Um. There have been worse injuries in this movement, by even more thuggish authorities. This is noteworthy, but it’s not more Rodney King than other cases or even the case almost a decade ago where police used Q-Tips to apply pepper-spray to the eyelids of non-violent, non-resisting, peaceful protestors.

  9. Those students are amazing. <3

  10. Jim Saul says:

    The eerie silence amid that huge crowd… her every footstep… in fiction that would be over the top, incredible.  That such a moment happened says so much about the resolve, the dignity, and the seriousness of those students.

  11. Bill says:

    Students, my heart is with you.  Your silence is more eloquent than any words.  

  12. Kelly M says:

    Sarah!  Awesome!  Was that spontaneous?  Doesn’t seem it could be.  How was it organized.

  13. tasteface says:

    My heart is in my throat. This is so raw.

    Thank you for the update.

  14. William Fertman says:

    I was there about an hour and a half before the walk of shame, and at the time, there were maybe 100-200 students there, very respectful and committed to non-violence.

    The gathering outside the building (named, ironically enough, Surge II) occurred because the students assembled to hear the press conference Katehi was to give at 4pm. When it was announced that the conference was press-only, the students quickly organized in protest, demanding to hear her explanations in person.

    At ~4:30, it was announced that the press conference was cancelled. Students were admitted by staff into the building through a back door, and assembled peacefully inside some office space, but outside the studio where the presser was being held.

    There was some chanting and use of the human microphone, but the students remained admirably peaceful and respectful. After demanding the conference be moved to a larger venue so students could witness it, they left the building and re-assembled outside to await Katehi’s exit.

    It was quarter of 6 when I left, and the students had already decided to permit Katehi to leave in silence, and formed a pair of human corridors at both doors of the building. It was an impressive display of maturity and thoughtful protest.

    And after that, pizza.

    • Xeni Jardin says:

      Dude. Awesome. Added to the post.

    • t3kna2007 says:

      > decided to permit Katehi to leave in silence

      Hi William, by this, do you mean ‘the students decided their response to Katehi’s departure would be a pointed silence’?  Using the word ‘permit’ gives it a certain slant that might not be for the best, if that’s not what you meant, and I don’t think it was.

      • Alvis says:

        I totse read that the same way.  Gave me a bad vibe of admitting she was being kept from leaving earlier.

      • Sarah Messbauer says:

        t3kna2007, you are correct – our agreed upon response was to use silence. There was never any talk of yelling or screaming at her, and a path four-people-wide was maintained at all times. She was not held captive or hostage in any way.

      • William Fertman says:

        Probably ‘permit’ was not the right word. The students (and I was more of a bystander) were not interested in preventing her from leaving. They wanted to hear her speak.

      • Zora says:

        I felt the same way when I read “permit.” I hope this is explained.

  15. Jim Mooney says:

    You have the right to protest the government under the First Amendment. You do Not have the right to protest our true rulers – the Banks.

  16. Jim Mooney says:

    Female chancellor.  Female police cheif. Whatever happened to this idea that when the Divine Feminine takes over, things will be nicer?

  17. Sarah Messbauer says:

    Kim, as William stated, it wasn’t exactly ‘spontaneous’ but it wasn’t ‘planned’ either. I arrived after the students were asked to leave the building. One of the students who had gotten sprayed yesterday volunteered to act as liaison, and the students present approved. Over the next few hours the students maintained a clear path to exit while Katehi’s people talked with our person. I don’t know what time it happened, but eventually our liaison came out and listed the agreed upon conditions – everyone moves to one side of the road, we sit down, we cross arms, we stay silent. Katehi originally agreed that her car would be pulled to the end of the line of students instead of just the end of the driveway, but that end was not upheld and she walked by about a third of us before getting in her car and leaving. 

    We’re protesting not just against big banks – we’re protesting against the use of violence to quell opposition, and against tuition hikes that would prevent thousands of students from getting the kind of education they need to make a better life for themselves. 

    Thoreau said ‘The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.’ How can they punish us for wanting something more?

  18. 10xor01 says:

    The video reminds me of that scene in Aliens where Ripley is tip-toeing through the field of soon to hatch eggs.  Of course in this case, the Aliens are the good guys.

    Stay strong U.C. Davis.  It seems likely that your wicked Chancellor will be gone soon.

  19. Ted Brennan says:

    Admiration. Quiet Admiration. That is something that UC Davis students have taught me today. I hope the rest of the Occupy movement is listening to this. This silence is deafening.

    • Lauritz H says:

      there are times like this where this tactic works gloriously and beautifully.  But those are special occasions, where the message to be sent is “we have nothing left to say to you.”  In such a circumstance, this tactic works. 

      But in most cases, the rule of thumb is that “silence implies consent”, and I have to admit to a considerable portion of suspicion that there are so many effusive in “admiration” for sitting down and shutting up and suggesting that the Occupy/99 movement to so at all times and in all places.

      • Ted Brennan says:

        First, putting words in other people’s mouths is a worse sin than silence. I never said or suggested that the Occupy movement use silence in “all times and all places”.  It is a valuable tactic, and in an age of shouting talking heads one that set the students at UC Davis very visibly apart from the UC Davis Chancellor. 

        Even in the initial pepper spraying at UC Davis, part of what made the actions of the police so obviously wrong was that those students were not up in the faces of the police officers shouting at the top of their lungs, they were sitting and of those getting pepper speaking more through civilly disobedient actions than words. I don’t think anyone was thinking that those students were “implying consent” either.I must give people more credit than you do in the ability to read the connotations of people’s actions. There is a reason why there is a history of both personal and societal shunning. There is a reason why “moments of silence” often work. Or in classic English etiquette- the cut direct.I don’t think that “silence implies consent”. There is a big difference from a silent protest to people staying at home in silence- That’s called context.  

  20. James Chen says:

    Back in the 1960s, students at UC Berkeley tried the same “silent treatment” tactic on then CA Gov. Ronald Reagan. It backfired when Reagan began tiptoeing through the protesters and then put a finger to his lips to whisper “Shhhhhhh.” The crowd burst out laughing at that point. Later, a protester held up a sign that said “We are the future” and Reagan held up a sign that said “I’ll sell my bonds”. Priceless.

    • D Wyatt says:

       Im pretty damned sure there wouldnt have been laughter had she done the same…  Its a great story, just pointing out that neither of these options would work in current times. 

  21. ahwoo says:

    Bet she had a stiff drink or two after that.

  22. David Forbes says:

    I work at a university. If I worked at Davis, I’d submit my resignation on Monday and ask everyone else who works there to do the same.

    Principles are more important than money, and they might just find a new chancellor who values students more than authority.

    • knijon says:

      While I admire your principle, that seems a bit over the top and it’s unlikely many would share your conviction.  I don’t know if they’re unionized (there are efforts at my university to unionize faculty and staff but I imagine it’s not a widespread phenomenon), but I think a staff and faculty strike (or walkout) would be more effective.

  23. Jim Saul says:

    The prior post cited the pay of the cop… here’s Katehi’s… base pay for 2010 $399,999.96.

    There are a lot higher salaries than that at the school, presumably at the medical school.

  24. OK was that me or were the press behaving as if  instructed not to behave like pack dogs over celebrity meat. Even though they have turned into lap dogs for corporations where once they were guard dogs for the people?

  25. hypersomniac says:

    If she values her standing, she should condemn Officer Pike. To the UC Davis students: more people than you can know support you.

  26. hypersomniac says:

    Also. To dig your head in the sand and not acknowledge that this incident is a microcosm of a nationwide problem of police abusing power and acting as if they are above all consequence is not only stubborn, but staggeringly ignorant.

  27. igpajo says:

    That was incredible!  Is there better video out there somewhere though?

  28. Current UCD students, you make me very proud to be an alumna. Monday morning I am calling every representative at every level of government and letting them know exactly how wrong it is to have police forces overreacting so extremely to protesters. 

    An aside to Xeni: As you know, pizza is important fuel for college students, and some of the best on the planet comes from Woodstock’s in Davis.

  29. Mitchell Glaser says:

    Spooky, like the final scene of The Birds.

    And by the way, as much as I support this cause, do y’all think BB is the right place to be publishing that idiot policeman’s home address and phone number? It kind of flies in the face of the civility that this post is all about, IMHO.

    • Xeni Jardin says:

      I did not publish that in my posts.

      • recoiled says:

        But you are a moderator, you can take down my comment as well as the comment with his home address.  That man may have a wife and kids, or husband, or elderly parent.  His home address should probably be stricken.  And although the evidence is damning, he’s still innocent until proven guilty.  We can protest, but could you please take down his home address.

        • Xeni Jardin says:

          I’m not a “moderator,” I’m an editor. Our moderators handle decisions about comment and community. We work together respectfully and cooperatively. This is their turf, the comments.

        • Antinous / Moderator says:

          As much as I would like to spend 10,080 minutes per week glued to the moderation panel, I have to eat, sleep and shit occasionally. Five flags removes a comment from public view.

        • David Jones says:

          What exactly is it that you are claiming he’s innocent of?

        • D Wyatt says:

          Idiot!  Censoring is what everyone wants these days and it seems to me like people trying to put shit back into the closet that already hit the fan…..  People will see, people will get angry, people will stop the corruption if it doesnt implode on itself first.  I suggest someone start organizing a real police force filled with qualified men who have a FIRM UNDERSTANDING OF RIGHTS.  That way we can just AVOID ALL THE STUPIDITY in the first place and then you and the government wont cry for it to be TAKEN DOWN/CENSORED/BLOCKED/BANNED/LIES.
          That done in the dark WILL COME TO LIGHT. 

           I care not the punishment doled onto the heathen or his kin. Karma is a bitch and she is looking for people like him.  A wicked man who would casually spray children like that should be crushed, along with his keepers for allowing the scumbag dog off the leash.   Their time is coming, the days of getting away with murder and theft are over.  Whether its cop abusing his powers on an innocent person,  a poor man stealing for his habit, or a rich man stealing for his, their time is NOW.   Nothing can stop it.  Earth could become a living hell if people arent careful and truthful. 
          Ask for leniency just as the poor man asks for his and doesnt receive.  Ask for help just as the poor man cries and goes unrecognized. 


      • Mitchell Glaser says:

        Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that it was in the post, which it wasn’t. It was more a request for the moderator to delete the offending comment, which he has. Next time I’ll just flag it.

    • SoItBegins says:

      That wasn’t in the post; that was in the comments.

    • Alvis says:

      I’m equally offended by the offense to civility with such flagrant use of line feeds.

      @ Xeni
      Granted, but you do have the ability to remove that information.  I’m not convinced whether or not you should, but that’s not my decision to make.  For what it’s worth, the balancing act of expecting readers to use that information to peacefully contact him to voice their legitimate complaints about his behavior, versus using it to harass him, is not one I’d easily know how to manage.

      EDIT: Moot point now

      • Xeni Jardin says:

        That’s a decision for our moderators, and that data is all over the web already. It was hardly published here first. The police officer was doxed yesterday, and a quick google search turns up thousands upon thousands of results for the same information. I don’t even know if it’s valid. But I think this is an awful lot of handwringing over something that is not really Boing Boing’s problem.

        • Alvis says:

          Sorry for de-railing this issue with the technicalities of Boing Boing comment politics, but I really find this interesting.  I always assumed the editors had just as much control over comments as the appointed moderators.  It’s kind of neat to think of it as a dichotomy now, if I understand things correctly, with editors setting up the discussion, and then stepping back for the moderators to oversee it.

    • Matt Wilkes says:

      Huh, so civility in this case would be not knowing Lt. John Pikes phone number or home address? Disagree.

      Pretty sure that’d be public information anyway.

  30. Mitchell Glaser says:

    Re: the overused phrase “Innocent until proven guilty”: I very much doubt that the policeman in question is legally guilty of anything. Which does not make him a decent human being. He is a paid thug.

    • robin cook says:

      it’s actually against california law to use pepper spray on non violent demonstrators.  (and “In sum, it would be clear to a reasonable officer that it was excessive to use pepper spray against the nonviolent protestors under these circumstances”–the circumstances being that the protesters in this earlier case had linked arms and used devices that only they could open to unlink, but were not “actively resisting” arrest, but rather sitting quietly–as those at UC Davis were.)

      • UrbanUndead says:

        I’m really, really, really hoping that some successful lawsuits remind the recent pepper spray transgressors – and their superiors – of such.

    • Ted Brennan says:

      It is nice to think that it is not our morality that rests on the laws of our government, but that it is  the laws of our government that rest on our morality. As far as whether the policeman in question goes, he is guilty of a deeply immoral act. Whether we have laws or a government to handle that is another problem. 

      Or to think about it in another way, there have been many people who have been wrongfully convicted and deemed guilty because in the eyes of the court they have been proven so. We would not say that this person is guilty when their innocence is unknown. “Innocent until proven guilty” is how we deal with things within a realm of law and law enforcement. Thankfully, I can shun this paid thug, I can convince others to do so with me. We would not be violating the legal precedent by imposing a cultural effect.

    • Finnagain says:

      This is the true face of our system. Preserve the power of the elites at any cost.

      These thugs in uniform are some of the ugliest “humans” I have ever seen in my life. How do they sleep?

      • BarBarSeven says:

        Well you are a bit dramatic, when there is a difference between all cops and one rogue cop.

        A police department is a strict top-down power structure system. The police are ordered to do something by those in charge, and within that system the police follow orders.  Base level cops are not the problems because they are just following orders.  Which some people might hate but that is how it works. The officer who sprayed the students is an asshat who used his power as a cop and within the structure he works in to stop other officers—who were non-aggresively trying to remove the students—from doing their job so he could be “big man on campus” and pull out his pepper spray can.

        Which is all to say if you want change in a police department, don’t waste your time on the rank and file cops.  Go to the top. Chancellor Katehi is right there.  Beneath that is the police department structure that allowed a schmuck like this to do this.

        Cops breaking up a protest is never pleasant, but is understandable to an extent even if you disagree with their actions. A trained police officer “pulling rank” to undermine an action and go on a power trip like this is incomprehensible. The guy is simply a sociopath who needs to be fired.

        This is not much different than the Penn State sex scandal stuff. Sandusky needs to be locked up and every Penn State official who was involved in the cover up needs to be removed. Power, corruption & lies.

        • eryximachus says:

          I have to say, the mental image of Pike with rouge on amuses me greatly…

          Please though, spell it ‘rogue’.  Please.  The common typo makes me want to vomit blood.  It may be a Canadian thing; we tend to be OCD about where to place the ‘u’ in words…

          • OldBrownSquirrel says:

            I’d expect the error to be glaringly obvious to anyone who’d had even a bit of French in school, which makes it that much more of a Canadian thing.

        • Paul Renault says:

          “…just following orders.”

 not a valid excuse.  It never was.

          As someone who deals directly with my employer’s customers and their customers, I think it’s even more reprehensible.  The cop on the beat job, the rest of the time, is to ‘Serve and Protect’ the same people he/she is beating on.

          So that would excuse a garage mechanic who’s ripping you off, since he’s ‘just following orders.”  The subprime mortage lenders?  “Sorry ma’am, just following orders.”

          No, if the beat cops were actually held responsible for their actions, a lot of shenanigans would stop.  Right now, they know they won’t be held responsible. 

          Think of an instance where a copy really, really screwed up.  Did they get fired?  Demoted?  No, they get promoted.  Especially if they were ‘just following orders.”

          • Lauritz H says:

            Totally agree Paul, and I would add this.  It’s that absolute absence of accountability among cops, their exemption from being to any minimum standards of behavior, their complete insulation from any consequences for their actions beyond “indefinite paid suspension” or some similarly harsh punishment, that defines the emerging order in the US as a Police State in its purest form.

          • BarBarSeven says:

            No, if the beat cops were actually held responsible for their actions, a lot of shenanigans would stop.  Right now, they know they won’t be held responsible.

            I think you missed my point. The thing is that you are 100% right; beat cops need to be held responsible. But the most likely reason beat cops go and do whatever they want is because the structure that holds them in place is damaged/dysfunctional. The cops who are above the beat cop need to be held responsible.  And those who order the cops to the scene of a demonstration like this and order the cops to do “whatever” to get rid of the demonstrators need to be removed as well.

            Who approved this guy’s $100,000 per year salary? They need to he held accountable for paying this guy 3x what he is worth since he has the mentality of a rookie cop.

          • Paul Renault says:

            Point taken.  But the beat cop is a citizen.  Just like you an me.    It’s their duty to disobey an unlawful order. 

            They don’t seem to have a problem violating rules and ethical norms whenever one of theirs is justifiably taken to court, no?

            My ‘whatever’ right or wrong is a stupid paradigm.

          • BarBarSeven says:

            Point taken.  But the beat cop is a citizen.  Just like you an me.    It’s their duty to disobey an unlawful order.

            A beat cop is not a citizen in the way you describe. Their job requires them to simply follow orders. And yeah, cops protesting the ticket-fixing scandal was ugly, but again where did they get the encouragement to do so; either passive or active?  From their unions and from the guys in charge. And it’s no secret that if you go against the unspoken police code of behavior, you will be shunned & even worse.  Heck, look at “Serpico” for example.

            But what I am saying is you cannot expect change in the rank and file of a structure like that without changes at the top and in the structure.

            There had to be a few cops in those protests at U.C. Davis who knew what was happening was wrong, but what could they do that would have (1) effectively stopped what happened and (2) ensured their own personal safety/security when the dust settles.  Would they be a “rat” for the rest of their life and be forces to work at Wal-Mart after getting kicked off the force?

          • msbpodcast says:

            The problem is that the beat cops don’t know who the “enemy” is.

            There are bullies who need to be drummed out and they will be because everything is on camera.

            There is no back yard for them to hide behind.

            There is no need to do anything to them except shunt them aside. (And you can bet your ass he WILL be passed over for promotion, given shit details, fed crap jobs until he quits.)

        • Base level cops are not the problems because they are just following orders.

          I just wanted to highlight this, in case anyone wanted to think about this particular idea.

      • eryximachus says:

         On top of a pile of money.

      • Douglass says:

        Unfortunately, probably quite well.

    • Lexicat says:

      Not only is he a paid thug, but publicly posting his home address and phone number are not legal sanctions akin to fines, seizure of property or incarceration. If a commenter had written “I’ve got John Pike held against his will in my basement dungeon” you might have cause to coherently use the argument “innocent until proven guilty,” but as it so happens you come off like an apologist stooge for taxpayer funded thugs/guardians of the interests of the 1% as though they deserve special shielding. I am sure you are not (a stooge), but that’s how your pleading to respect that pig’s home life sounds.

      Fuck him, and big ups to the doxers.

      • Rev. Benjamin says:

        It’s not at all cool to call cops “pigs”.  Yeah, that guy fucked up and he’s going to have to live with that for the rest of his life.  If you or I were asked to pepper spray people at point blank, we’d gladly say “Fuck yourself, lieutenant”.  But to call him a “pig” perpetuates the use of pig.  Like it or not, there are decent cops out there, and outrage doesn’t justify slurs.

        And also, no, police officers do not deserve special shielding… they’re public servants in public view, and there is an expectation of public accountability, especially in the internet age.  But to be SO animal like to suggest that keeping his “home life” – aforementioned innocent relatives or bystanders, hell even neighbors or friends – shouldn’t be “respected”, is a terrible notion.  What happened was terrible, but I can’t get behind stooping below reason into blind rage.  You’re dishonoring the peaceful sacrifice and brilliant protests of the UofC students.

    • opendna says:

      The officer’s use of pepper spray is a violation of the protestors’ 4th Amendment rights and sufficiently illegal to strip him of his “qualified immunity” and expose him to personal liability. So ruled the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in a decision upheld by the US Supreme Court.

      See Headwaters Forest Defense, et al. v. County of Humboldt, et al. and Lundberg v. County of Humboldt

    • ottoretire2017 says:

      He could probably be charged with a host of things, assault, actions to dishonour the uniform, excessive use of force…the protester will hopefully lay complaints and then the courts will have to decide…thoughtfully.
      To the protesters on both days; if my future depends on everyone acting like you did, I know that a civilized world is not far away. There is hope, but it is going to be very, very difficult.

    • You may be wrong on that. Departmental use of force guidelines specify when pepper spray may be used. In some departments, it’s not allowed to use it in a case like this.

  31. J_____J says:

    I applaud these students for their bravery. I commend them for finding their voice, especially for finding that voice through this powerful silence.   

    As a former graduate student and current postdoctoral scientist at UC Davis, I have been largely insulated from the University of California’s tuition and fee hikes over the past several years.  I have largely felt as if the budget problem is not my problem.  I have felt that as a member of the scientific community on campus, we essentially pay for ourselves and that we are protected in our ivory towers from the issues of legislative budget disputes and administrative problems.  I have come to realize that I couldn’t have been more wrong.

    Read why UC postdoctoral scientists should care about the Occupy movement at

  32. More photos:

  33. Tyler Strause says:

    Here is a higher quality version of the video

  34. WeatherServo9 says:

    Something to add to the protest recipe book: silence combined with back-turning.  This works much better than vocal disruption (which gets you immediately removed/arrested) for Congressional hearings, press conferences, public appearances, etc.  All those hearings and press conferences and so forth that are on C-Span every day, think of the great video and free #ows publicity that would be out there if every one of them had two or three rows of people in the audience facing backwards.  No noise, no disruption, just sitting the wrong way in their seats (though this could get uncomfortable quickly, a small price to pay).

    And not just in DC, either.  Every local government has council and planning meetings and so forth, let’s start occupying those.  Everyone keeps asking what the next step for #ows is.  I think it ought to be partially in the streets and partially in the open meetings of government all over the country; non-violent, non-disruptive, non-partisan.  Just be there, backs turned, to make people in government feel accountable.

    In general, these protests need to get much more human, much more personal.  I don’t mean vindictive towards the targets,  I mean each protest should be planned first and foremost as a direct, honest human communication.  Shouting and carrying signs may seem fun, but is impersonal and often counterproductive.  This ‘walk of shame’ is a great example of what I mean by a more human protest.  No violence, no noise, just a brutally, honestly human experience that is immune to almost any criticism.  It’s nearly perfect.  It doesn’t have to be exactly like this every time, but imagine if all over the country this week a bunch of silent, walk-of-shame-type protests sprang up outside city halls, state capitol buildings, etc. 

    So stop reading this and get to it!

  35. BarBarSeven says:

    The only thing that could have made this video better would be if Donald Sutherland was standing near Chancellor Katehi’s car near the very end & simply pointed at her while emitting an alien shriek as she opened the door.

    • BarBarSeven says:

      I will also post-script my own jokey comment & say the action itself is pretty amazing. Astonishing actually. If she doesn’t resign, she needs to be fired.

  36. lavardera says:

    Who does the chancellor answer to? Is there a board?

  37. I think this walk will haunt her until the end of her days.  As it should.

  38. Steven Baratz says:

    Ghandi would be proud

  39. A walk of shame doesn’t work for everyone.  It pre-supposes that the intended is capable of feeling shame.  As mentioned earlier, Reagan turned it into a comedy routine.  It looked like the lady was shaken, but whether it was remorse for the students or concern for herself is anyone’s guess.

    @Jim Mooney Females can be just as bad as males, and sometimes worse. 

  40. gornzilla says:

    I worked at UCD in the monkey lab.  If anyone had done this to the monkeys, they would be immediately fired (and probably punched out by everyone else in lab). 

  41. opendna says:

    High definition version of this video:

  42. There’s a part of this that I completely don’t understand: what were these people thinking? Katehi had to know how badly attacks on protestors have been working everywhere else, and yet she ordered an attack. Pike had to know about the Tony Baloney incident a few weeks ago, and yet he pepper-sprayed a LOT of non-violent people in front of a LOT of cameras. Is this more of that classic WWI-style insanity, the “well, we just haven’t been stupid ENOUGH” thing? Or is it something else?

  43. SomeDude says:

    >”although the evidence is damning, he’s still innocent until proven guilty”

    Mr Recoiled, I’m afraid that ship sailed the instant he shamelessly performed his despicable act on dozens of cameras in front of hundreds of people.   He is guilty of spraying those people with pepper spray.  There is no room for reasonable doubt.  Deal with it.

    • the_engineer says:

      Yup. You’re right. Unfortunately the allowable use of pepper spray is supranational. What will be decided in court is whether or not his actions were justified. Personally, i’m quite confident that they had no justification whatsoever, but that’s where the law comes in here. We have a system here, it tends to work. Let’s have some faith in it. And yes, that does unfortunately mean he’s innocent until proven guilty.

  44. Cowicide says:

    “Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.”

    - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

  45. grs says:

    Awesome. What an impact. It’s like the playground scene from Hitchcock’s ‘The Birds’. I think the chancellor just realized what she’s up against and what her actual position is (or used to be since she’s likely out the door soon).

  46. jeopardydd says:

    I am a lifetime member of the UC Davis Alumni Association.

    I attempted to call the Chancellor’s office yesterday to let them know that until she resigns, they will not get another dime from me.  The mailbox was full and I could not leave a message. I will try again, and I will send a letter.

    I’ve talked to about a half-dozen other alumni who feel the same way.

    To the current students involved in this, I have two things to say: the alumni support you, and we are in awe of you.

  47. UC Davis students: I am so proud of you.

  48. Palomino says:

    I don’t care how big the dog is. If it sits stock still, unblinking and it’s gaze follows my every move, it scares the shit out of me…..Bight me already!

  49. ottoretire2017 says:

    To the protesters on both days; if our future depends on everyone acting like you did, I know that a civilized world is not far away. There is hope, but it is probably going to be very, very difficult to have everyone rise to your level of civility.

  50. msbpodcast says:

    That was the most EFFECTIVE demo I have seen yet.

    She will think long and hard abut EVER having a cop on campus again…

    Shame works. Its a bourgeois sentiment and it works against the bourgeois.

    The pepper spraying cops must know he’s toast as far as EVER SETTING FOOT ON CAMPUS AGAIN.

  51. querent says:

    “And yet, within an hour she was live on CNN explaining away the pepper-spray incident to host Don Lemon, who had to cut her off a few times because her responses were so long-winded.


  52. lavardera says:

    Its important that the students begin to draw a line from recent events to the big goals of the movement. 

    Clearly the University has egg on its face, and the protest has been handled wrong. Whether this chancellor goes or not, the outcome must be that the students have a right to protest, and the Univ. must tolerate it, within reasonable bounds – such as not using violence on non-violent protesters. 

    Once established the dialog can move on to what the Univ. can do to end the protests, which can take the form of the Univ acting to bring their much greater weight to bear on the issues on Wall St. Namely the Univ. must demand that Wall St. come to the table to negotiate reforms, with the understanding that the Univ. Trusts and other Funds will be withdrawn if they do not. 

    And all student protests must take this tact, to bring the schools leverage to bear on the banks. 

    The protesters in various cities must have the same goal. When the situation is tipped and the cities can no longer use violence in the public eye, then its time to negotiate. If you want the protests to end, then you have to bring your weight to bear on the Financial Industry.

    After that we focus on one large corporation at time. Walmart. Ford. Etc. Labor Unions will be a great partner here. Force them all to end lobbying and use their leverage with their financial institutions to push for reform. 

    It might be worthwhile to form an Occupy Credit Union where people, and companies, can land their finances in order to pull out from uncooperative banks. It would quickly gain enough deposits to make the banks wet themselves.

  53. skreams says:

    “The Chancellor was not trapped in Surge II tonight, but, in a larger sense, we are all in danger of being trapped.  We are trapped when we assent to a culture that for decades, and particularly since 9/11, has allowed law enforcement to have more and more power which has moved us into an era of hypercriminalization. We are trapped when we envision no path to reconciliation.   And we are trapped when we forget our own power. “

  54. JoshP says:

    I have to admit I don’t understand this.  The occupy movement, the current american civil protest, it’s not that I don’t admire that ambition to exercise the amazing political muscle of free expression and protest…  But this seems to be flailing instead of flexing.
      Has this movement demanded anything that can be rationally given?  I mean like legally and stuff? 
      Yes, corporations and their emergent behaviors are a two-ton guerrilla, but the individuals inside the moving parts are laughing into their third martini right now. 
      If this movement desires something tangible… ask for nationalized healthcare.. as a Constitutional right, one of those pesky Amendment things. 
      State that education is not just a right but the responsibility for the strength of the Republic and as such should also be instituted as an Amendment.  Amend the Constitution so that capitalism, as that it rests upon the nation and is created out of the body of its citizen is responsible for the maintenance of its nation.
      Otherwise it’s cheaper to just buy your own pepper spray and have your buddies hit you with some while you play xbox.  And as much as I admire people as activist I don’t feel like this will accomplish much. 

  55. Stonewalker says:

    Powerful!  So proud of the UCD students!

  56. Ian Whitehouse says:

    I’m so impressed, that was brilliant. Well done to the protesters for their discipline and control.

  57. Michel says:

    Those videos ought to be titled something like:

    America! Land of the free! - Tiananmen square, the US version.

    Enough said, but I cried watching these videos.  

  58. the_engineer says:

    Funny story: the #1 contributor to the 2008 Obama campaign?
    Wait for it

    University of California

    Yup. The same folks who just directly sprayed military grade pepper spray into the faces of peaceful protestors. Quite possibly even Mrs. chancellor herself is near the top of that list.

    This needs to be headline news somewhere I think…


    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      Funny story: the #1 contributor to the 2008 Obama campaign?
      Wait for it

      University of California

      Even funnier story: This includes anyone who works for UC and their families. “As of 2011, the University of California has…18,896 faculty, 189,116 staff members…” per Wikipedia.

  59. leslie.farkas says:

    The mass silent treatment of rebuke is something you only used to see in old Hollywood films, like the ones directed by Frank Capra! (Who would have loved this scene!) Nice to see that it can happen in real life!

  60. Pit Schultz says:

    watch that meme going out of control. wanna watch the “You’re such a Lt. John Pike” flash game?  here’s an early version..

  61. charlesmcgee says:

    Katehi is the last female who has hidden from view her real cultural relationships. Folks who see themselves as not part of the 1% will have to do better. we did not do better in 2008.We got a ham bone named Obama, UC Davis got a pig ‘s ear named Katehi. In 2012, and into the future, we will have to choose from our ranks.  Do not allow someone to impose standards of acceptability that they created unilaterally. Under the present circumstance I would rather have an OWS presidential candidate than another Obama. The next UC Davis president had better come from your ranks. Forget dancing to the 1% tune. I made that mistake when I got out of graduate. To my regret I submitted in 2008, sobriety lost its priority, and I forgot the message of the post 1960s years-resist.

  62. george abney says:

    The students can force her dismissal. All they need to do is repeat the same display of solidarity where the Board of Regents hold their meetings… and they will bend to the will of the CUSTOMER… Later, they can take time to read the LONG list of lawsuits faced by the university because of the poor job done by the Chancellor AND the Board.

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