Kim Jong Un wants Obama to Call Him Maybe, says new bestie Dennis Rodman after Vice mag North Korea junket


77 Responses to “Kim Jong Un wants Obama to Call Him Maybe, says new bestie Dennis Rodman after Vice mag North Korea junket”

  1. When you’ve got a friend in the world’s last Stalinist, you’ve got a friend indeed.

  2. mightthrowup says:

    Don’t want to do war? How about you first stop to do war on your own people?

    • uhm, you may want to take a look at your backyard. And at those eyes in the sky. (yes, i am assuming you are american, if that is not the case, i am sorry.)

      • Ryan Lenethen says:

        Anyone want to tell me of the odds of who has more people inprisoned? However I know getting statistics out of N.Korea is difficult. 

  3. agonist says:

    Everything about this incident and Dennis Rodman and Vice magazine is disgusting. If for even one second anyone involved in this could empathize with the suffering in North Korea, they would suffocate under the weight of their own shame.

    • Grape Jemima says:

      What’s disgusting is that Dennis Rodman is America’s foremost expert on the young leader. What’s disgusting are snarky  boing boing comments left by wannabe activists.  Say what you want, but YOU haven’t done a damn thing.  

      • Alex Rudnick says:

        Is it more disgusting to do (perhaps questionable) things on the international stage, or to post comments criticizing people who do those things, or to post comments criticizing people who post comments criticizing people who do things, or to post comments criticizing people who post comments criticizing people who post comments criticizing people who do things?

        I think the last is the most disgusting of all. But I should have made another comment to make that view known.

      • So you’re suggesting we do, what, exactly? March en masse on Pyongyang?  Forcibly put Rodman on antipsychotics?

    • Petzl says:

      What are you talking about?  Any contact Vice can achieve is welcome. Rodman is a patsy and an idiot, but he can’t make it any worse than it is, and Vice/Rodman’s contact with Jong-un does not mean they don’t empathize with the suffering.

      • grimc says:

        Vice tweeted about getting drunk with KJU and how good the roast turkey and sushi was. If that isn’t a lack of empathy, I’d love to hear why.

  4. blueminder says:

    I don’t think folks would be as mad if Dennis Rodman was meeting up and befriending Chinese or Saudi officials, and there’s really no shortage of human right violations that aren’t accounted for in such places. North Korea is a special case because it is simultaneously an absurd and brutal nation that folks know very little about overall.

    I’m totally willing to believe that any politician, even ones with the worst policies and human rights violations, would be good person to those that are immediately around them. I think it’s just a matter of being able to separate the person from the role that they are trying to fulfill. While not a fair comparison in this case, it’s sort of like the office of the Presidency in the United States. I disagree with many decisions the administration makes, and I can easily curse up a storm concerning things like drone strikes and the crackdown on whistleblowers when the issues are mentioned, but if I were to sit down and have beer with the PERSON Obama as opposed to the PRESIDENT Obama, I think it would be a fascinating conversation that I would welcome despite conflicting political beliefs. People, even powerful political leaders, are not equivalent to all of the decisions of the government they work for. Same goes for political leaders from despotic nations despite the pomp of being a supreme leader.

    That doesn’t mean you excuse what they do politically, but treating individuals like human beings would likely get you much further in being diplomatic than merely damning them while plotting violence against them. I don’t think world leaders are much different.

    There’s also the real question of how much power does Kim Jong Un TRULY have? It’s totally possible he’s being used by the generals and government officials who have been around much longer than him. There’s so much we don’t know.

    I don’t know, just a thought.

    • Rindan says:

      I think folks would be less annoyed by Chinese, Saudi, or Iranian officials because they are an order of magnitude less brutal to their own population.  It isn’t just that little Kim runs a brutal dictatorship, but the fact that he runs the most brutal dictatorship in a style that is basically dead everywhere else in the world.  The misery is in North Korea is human created and incomparable to anything else going on in the world.  The misery and suffering is made worse by the fact that there is no power vacuum.  People starving in a nation in civil war isn’t okay, but it is understandable.  People starving in mass in a nation with full sovereignty and control over its land is insane.  Little Kim, assuming he is in control of his nation, has a special place in hell waiting for him that few autocratic leaders will ever see. 

      North Korea should be a shining jewel.  It is between a number of the worlds most powerful economies in the region.  Even without reunification, South Korea and Chinese goods  should be blasting through North Korea 24/7.  They should be trading with Japan and all of the other economic powers in the region.  Instead, North Korea is the poorest nation in the world and the people are physically and measurably weaker and smaller than their South Korean neighbors because they have spent so much of their time starving or nearly starving.

      If that little fat bastard has any power and isn’t using it to save his people, he deserves to rot in hell.  

      • blueminder says:

        I don’t disagree. I’d be glad to see autocratic leaders across the board burn in hell for the actions they commit merely because they believed they were fulfilling a role that was ‘just’ in some twisted moral code. My own family left Cuba after the revolution after seeing the brutality that was supposedly committed in the name of a higher cause, and the oppressive outcome of what started as a fight for some very real ideals. Power can pretty terrible and the agents of it should be held to their actions.

        Having said that, anyone who grows up used to having things like this happen under their watch while being groomed for leadership already has a fair bit of psychological damage done to them that’s pretty hard to reverse. Aggressive saber-rattling really doesn’t help that situation or the decisions they will make as a leader who has military officials and citizens to impress.

        To me, it’s less about maintaining some moral high ground and more about figuring out what can be done to better things in the here and now. Folks may laugh at Rodman, but he managed to find an opportunity to connect with a world leader who has been sheltered to the world otherwise. I do think that deserves props for what it is.

      • Jonathan Badger says:

        During the Cold War various celebrities and athletes made trips to Stalin’s Soviet Union and Mao’s China, both of which were into famines as well. In part, that’s what helped open up these very isolated countries.

  5. Lucy Gothro says:

    Why don’t your thumbnails match the story?  I share stuff, & the pic has NOTHING to do with the article…people aren’t as likely to read it, that way.

  6. Snowlark says:

    Wait, wha? Did I just re-awaken in the Onionverse? What the hell is going on here?

  7. DJBudSonic says:

    Why is anyone bothered that Dennis Rodman went to visit North Korea?  Because you all care so much about human rights that you would restrict his right to visit North Korea? Or because you think that the people of North Korea will view him as representative of American and somehow he is not the right person for that?  He is allowed to speak about a man he met, without speaking about politics. He was there to play basketball.  I notice there are not a lot of ball caps in the picture.

    • Rindan says:

      No one has advocated preventing Rodman from going to NK. No one is upset because Rodman is a bad representative for America. People are annoyed (and “annoyed” is about as far as I would take it) that the dude sat down with the most brutal autocratic dictator alive in the world in the most needlessly impoverished nation in the world, had tea, and talked about basketball. If you can’t figure out why you should feel icky if you sit down with a brutal dictator while a few miles away there are literally death camps, your moral compass is so broken there is nothing I am going to say to convince you that it was icky.

      This is in contrast when Google’s Eric Schmidt’s went to North Korea. Schmidt went and advocated for opening the country up and trying to ease the suffering. When he left, he promptly turned around and, against the wishes of North Korea, tossed up a road map the of the place including death camp locations. He didn’t run around complementing little Kim on all the cool shit he stole from his starving people.

      The difference is tone. It is one thing to make an overture, and another to come back talking about how much fun the brutal autocrat is to hang out with.

      Frankly, I wont lose any sleep over it. Rodman is a publicity whore. You can take what he says with a grain of salt. I would not be shocked if he went to go shoot the shit the with the autocrat just to get a media reaction. He got it. People think he is kind of a dick, but not enough of a dick to do respond in anything more than an eye roll.

      • Navin_Johnson says:

        Crocodile tears. Yeah Schmidt is the picture of morality and ethics…
        Maybe we should be asking why our leaders aren’t making more of an effort to engage with the PRK. They have no problem with brutal dictators and autocrats when it suits their profits and realpolitik.

        • Rindan says:

          What crack are you smoking?  South Korea’s “Sunshine” policies were exactly the kind of engagement that you seem to think is the magic sauce to make North Korea less than hell.  They tried very hard to engage with North Korea, made concessions at every turn, and showed extreme restraint.  The “Sunshine” policies failed miserably by any metric.  They did nothing to make North Korea less of a hell hole filled with death camps and humans who are literally shrunken from starvation.

          The US doesn’t exactly have high standards when it comes to dealing with autocrats.  The US practices realpolitik for sure, but North Korea manages to be one of the few nations that fails even the pathetic and minimal standards that the US has.  The Saudi’s might have half of their population in near slavery, but at least they keep their citizens from starving and don’t have to literally wall the poor fuckers in.  North Korea is an abysmal shit hole where everyone is a slave or a criminal of the state.  It is one of the few nations in this world left where the walls are there to keep people from escaping, not to prevent people from entering.

          There is no apologizing for North Korea.  The leaders of that nation deserve to be lined up against a wall and shot by any moral system you can imagine.  There might be a handful of places in this world where living conditions are more miserable, but at least they have the excuse that there is no central power or ruling system.  This is not the case with North Korea.  North Korea has a central power and rule system, it is just fucked up, brutal, and incompetent by choice.  North Korea should be an economic power house on its location alone.  Instead, it is the poorest nation in the world and one of the last nations in this world that has to wall its citizens in.  

          Dennis Rodman got his 5 minutes in the spotlight again for high fiving the most wretched and brutal leader (or at least figure head) of a sovereign state left in this world.  Good for him.  He is a publicity whore.  He can fuck off back obscurity now.

  8. MrJM says:

    It’s still not as embarrassing as Rodman’s trip to Australia: 

  9. Megan says:

    I always suspected Rodman was just deep under cover all these years.

    • soap says:

      an agent who’s come to believe his own cover story but who’s in there, hiding in a larval state just waiting for the proper moment to hatch out.

  10. Ito Kagehisa says:

    Scary red jacket bodyguard is not having fun.

    • salsaman says:

      THIS!  The photo is fascinating– what is going on with his two minders staring at him sideways, and his I’m-really-not-into-this-whole-thing expression???
      Also: everybody else checking out doughboy great leader/friend for life, making sure they’re laughing at the right time.

      • ocker3 says:

        He looks like Rodman’s possey, and he knows the two guys behind him are about to gut him like a fish if he makes any kind of move towards Dear Leader. Look how close the guy on his left (in the photo) is to him, just a subtle reminder of his ability to take him out on a whim.

  11. Eric0142 says:

    Nothing having to do with North Korea surprises me.

  12. Green Ghost says:

    Saw the interview this morning. Rodman makes Palin look like a Rhodes Scholar.

  13. voiceinthedistance says:

    Same height at the shoulder.  Osteoporosis is a bitch, eh Dennis?

  14. Frank266 says:

    Who is the black guy in the red behind and to left of Kim Jong Un? Why is the Korean girl to Rodman’s right staring at him with such intensity?

  15. smotherbrother says:

    Is English the Worm’s native language? He’s either got a crazy weird accent or he’s missing a large portion of his tongue.

  16. Philander Rodman: “Before we go any further, please allow me to explain why I wrote most of my books using caps. ”

  17. awjt says:

    I bet Rodman and Kim Jong blazed a few fat ones before that pic.

  18. So Philander Rodman right?  “Leaves don’t fall very far from the tree that they fall from!!!”  dyingrightnow

  19. Petzl says:

    I just realized:
    In the same way it is recorded in the history books how Charles Lindbergh visited Hitler, some day there’s going to be a history book that notes Dennis Rodman’s visit to North Korea.

  20. foobar says:

    Call an election, maybe?

  21. dustindriver says:

    The increasingly poor decisions of Dennis Rodman? 

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      If only there were a visual symbol for that…

      I will say on Mr. Rodman’s behalf that he once asked Jay Leno during a guest spot if Mrs. Leno used a strap-on on Mr. Leno.

  22. Dennis Rodman’s next stop should be to each military base in South Korea, Osan, Yongsan, etc. then to the Korean War memorial in DC. 

  23. redjon says:

    Kim doesn’t want to do war.  The president doesn’t want to do war, and Congress certainly doesn’t want to do war.  Sounds like a plan:  Let’s not do war.

  24. MythicalMe says:

    Notice that Kim Jung Un is the only one that is actually having fun. Likely he’s lived a sheltered life and hasn’t got any idea about the real problems his country endures. Unfortunately, nobody will ever tell him truthfully why his country is the among the most reviled on Earth.

  25. Is Rodman’s Coke photochopped?

  26. sdmikev says:

    Christ, I can’t believe there’s a discussion about a nutjob ex-jock meeting a nutjob dictator. 
    If he went in drag, I think the internet would implode.

  27. noah django says:

    There’s an old saying on Vulcan:  “Only Nixon could go to China.”  That Rodman went to North Korea should fully indicate the gravitas of this meeting, and that nation.  Next news item, please…

  28. KevinRaposo says:

    Forget a war, I think Obama and Kim should play a 1-on-1 basketball game to settle their differences. Also add a no foul rule! Now that’s politics that’s worth watching! 

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