Brutal police crackdown on protesters in Sao Paolo

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  1. fuzzyfuzzyfungus says:

    Given the… disconcerting… reputation of Sao Paolo’s police forces, I wish them the best of luck.

    • Fernando Žvingila Seixas says:

      Really? I mean… Our police force is THIS famous? hahaha Thats concerning.

      Thank you! We’ll keep on fighting!

  2. Boundegar says:

    It’s nice to see other nations following America’s tradition of democracy.

    • The Freedom is spreading.

    • Lita Rebello says:

      what a awful comment! typical of americans

    • Gustavo Campos says:

      Last time I heard the greatest democractic revolution of all time was called FRENCH.

      • Sigmund_Jung says:

        The American Revolution occured before the French Revolution, and it didn’t have the same hiatus the French had with the rise of Bonaparte — an Emperor.

      • Antinous / Moderator says:

        Last time I heard the greatest democractic revolution of all time was called FRENCH.

        Because of all the tongue.

    • whatever says:

      i’m laughing so bad. you are a fucking moron if you actually believe that. for your information, brazil’s history of violent militarism is related to the militar dictatorship that was partially sponsored by the united states in the cold war. go study some history.

      • Antinous / Moderator says:

        Have you never heard the term “sarcasm”?

        • whatever says:

          i have heard of sarcasm, thank you very much.
           but i take it as you have never heard of respect to a country’s history.you know, i don’t really laugh at people being funny about ho ho ho eagles, freedom, murrica. not when it’s a mocking comment about a protest where people are getting hurt – because of truculence, because of a past in which people have been tortured, because of an oppressive government.get off your high horse.

  3. Jardine says:

    Hopefully, with some international attention, Sao Paulo’s police may stop hitting students with their batons and tear gas.

    Since when does international attention stop cops from beating students like red-headed stepchildren?

    • Mr. Black says:

      Jardine – You are right. It won’t stop the police. I was born, raised and still live in Minas Gerais – at least a couple hundred miles from SP itself – but my concern is that we spread the message. Other cities, like Goiania and Rio de Janeiro are also boiling with the same indignation we saw in SP.

      International attention is important not because it can stop the violence immediately, but because it can raise the heat and the pressure over the authorities. Pressure for change is the reason those students were in the streets in the first place. The international community has also a better and longer political memory than we do here. :D

  4. blastinmartin says:

    Sao Paulo is spelled wrong, it’s São Paulo not Sao Paulo

  5. dingobaby says:

     … and that’s the biggest problem you could see in the above article?

    • Ramone says:

      Actually I did a double take when I read the price had been raised to 3,20–seeing the punctuation and not the lack of another zero totally made me forget that commas are periods/decimals in places outside the U.S.!

    • blastinmartin says:

      No, the biggest problem is that violent police crackdown is a common answer to protests in São Paulo, somewhere down the line is that the name of the city is misspelled.  I hope that one doesn’t have anything to do with the other and yet at the same time you wouldn’t say, “The mayor of Noo York is Michael Bloomfeld”, if you want to discuss serious problems with New York.

      • In América, I presume.

      • Shahiz Almonte says:

        But the difference is that it isn’t a completely different letter, you are exaggerating.  Until you fix your name you cant really complain about any grammatical issues on this board sir, well you can but who will take you serious?

        • blastinmartin says:

          Point taken, I can’t really fix my name, so I concede my entire point.  I henceforth resolve to use ‘Sao Paulo’.  Moderators please remove my comment.

          • Shahiz Almonte says:

            Thank you good sir, I appreciate your bowing down in this one.  Convince grammar police to remove themselves from a post *CHECK*

            My life is complete.

  6. Annnnd not forget who the national/local brazilian media is not showing the real truth, labeling we as vandals…. take a look on this -> http://oquenaosainatv.tumblr.com/ and another side joke ->  http://revistaforum.com.br/blog/2013/06/quem-dera-ser-um-peixe-acquario-ceara-vai-custar-quase-r-300-milhoes/

  7. Rafael Roquetto says:

    Well it is also true that people among the manifestants have been vandalizing private and public property. Destroying subway stations, McDonald’s stores, and Banks isn’t civilized and incompatible with a pacific demonstration they claim. 

    Here are some pictures:
    http://abobado.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/sao_paulo_bandidagem_no_protesto_contra_o_aumento_de_passagem.jpg

    http://prosaepolitica.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/manifestacao-passelivre-sp-2.jpg

    Here is a video of a local news broadcaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsLAPxTXn08

    Now my own opinion: I believe people should indeed go out and protest for their rights. But as soon as you start damaging 3rd party property, scrawling the walls and breaking subway station glasses, you have lost it. There are plenty of better alternatives for these things, such as the usage of banners instead of scrawling, printed signs, music and so on. A friend of mine owns a stationery store around the area the protest took place and she had to close it down, fearing it would be sacked and damaged.
    I would love to be for this protest, but given the lack of responsability of those protesters and specially of their leaders, which should at least come out publicly against such violent acts, I can’t side with something like this.

    • This is the problem, always will exist some people with intention of destruction, we cannot generalize everyone by act of dumb people. 

      • Rafael Roquetto says:

         I agree! What annoys me though is that the legitmate leaders and the protesters in general, instead of coming clear and explaining this is a “minority” of vandals causing disturbance, they prefer to ignore it and focus solely on the police – that is not holy btw, but is also doing their job.
        I hate the bias. Let’s protest, and let’s begin by demonstrating some responsability, for this is ultimately what we demand from the government. Let’s improve what is wrong and march ahead, instead of trying to cover/distort the reality by actually criticism those who distort the reality. That’s hypocritical.

        • Antinous / Moderator says:

          What annoys me though is that the legitmate leaders and the protesters in general, instead of coming clear and explaining this is a “minority” of vandals causing disturbance, they prefer to ignore it and focus solely on the police

          From your other comment…

          As things began to get really ugly, other protesters came into rescue and calmed down the ones who were being more radical.

          For heaven’s sake, pick a story and stick to it.

    • Boundegar says:

      Gracious! The leaders of the protest do not care as deeply as you about the property of the privileged? Why, they lack legitimacy, good sir, let us bid them good day!

    • Navin_Johnson says:

      Destroying subway stations, McDonald’s stores, and Banks isn’t civilized

      Unlike screwing over citizens (humans) and brutalizing them which is perfectly fine by you I guess…

      • Rafael Roquetto says:

         You guess wrong. What does the owner of a McDonald’s franchise have to do with that, and why do you believe it is okay for him to bear the costs of vandalism? Afaik the protest is against bad government. And I care because once you support violating private property, then it makes it okay for someone to violate mine and yours, too, for any reason they think it is worth it. Protesting against the government by attacking other citizens’ properties is not very smart.
        As for Boundgear, I don’t care about the property of the privilleged. I care about property. And since when a newstand owner is a privilleged? Because they have been damaging newsstands and kiosks here too. What’s wrong with you people?

      • Rafael Roquetto says:

        ” Unlike screwing over citizens (humans) and brutalizing them which is
        perfectly fine by you I guess… concerned guy has concerns..”

        Do you see your hypocrisy here?

    • Dont be so stupid Rafael, there are undercover cops as protesters that do those kind of destruction to create an excuse to the police to hit and abuse everyone. You should know that already if you’ve been to one of the protests.

      • Rafael Roquetto says:

         Who’s being stupid here by taking things to a personal level? Why do you have to insult me to support your arguments?
        I am aware of undercover cops in such protests, it even made the headline todays. But trust me, the people I have seen destroying stuff, I am pretty sure they were not cops. What you are stating here is pretty serious though, so if you have some evidence to support your statement please share it. Such evidence would play a key role on proving who is to blame here, and would only help the movement to get more empathy from people. It can only be benefical, so please do share it.

    • llazy8 says:

      It’s weird to look at people who have so little money that a 20 cent raise in bus fare can send them into outrage, then say that the *real* victims are big foreign corporations.

      Not Brazil, but here in Argentina foreign businesses like MacDonalds, Coca Cola, Lays and Starbucks have a really neat trick- they charge the same price in dollars for the products, but then they use local raw materials (at a cheaper local rate) and pay their workers very little, and in Pesos.  So, with all those extra earnings, I bet the poor babies could clean up a little indignant graffiti once in a while.  

      • Rafael Roquetto says:

         This isn’t about big corporations. In civil society, rights are expected to be respected. Demanding your rights when at the same time you completely ignore your fellow citizens’ rights is completely hypocritical, to say the least.
        Even though it shouldn’t matter, I used McDonald’s as an example of a store which has been destroyed – here in Brazil, many of these stores are franchises, which means someone used *his* money to build a business around it – a legitimate business. But they were not the only ones attacked, as I mentioned before, my friend who owns a paper shop had to close earlier, and also newsstand owners (which are far from being big corporations). So if I get you right, you are saying it is okay to damage other people’s property? Try to put yourself in their shoes. This is not a black and white, evil versus good, capitalism versus socialism discussion.
        There are smarter and more efficient, more civilized ways of protesting – which is a right and should be carried out. But hatred produces hatred. How about a peaceful protest, like Occupy Ottawa (which I had the pleasure to see live). Why not occupy the cityhall?

      • Thiago Leitão says:

        “It’s weird to look at people who have so little money that a 20 cent
        raise in bus fare can send them into outrage, then say that the *real*
        victims are big foreign corporations.”

        The people taking part in these violent protests are not the people to whom the 20 cents are going to make a difference, I’m sorry to say. A large portion of them are privileged college students.

        The underprivileged who are going to feel the impact of the increase are the ones who, after the previous protests had to wait for their buses or subways trains on bus stops and stations damaged by the protesters.

        Plus, it’s not just big foreign or national corporations who had their stores trashed. They damaged 85 buses, at least one of them was completely burned (which just goes to show how at least some of the protesters have no clue as to what they’re protesting against). Plenty of local small business owners have decided to close shop earlier today, to avoid further damage.

        The reason for the protest is legitimate, the demonstrations are legitimate, but the violence with which they have been carried out empties both of their message. And because of that it has been widely criticized, not only by the press, but by part of the citizenry as well. It would go a long way to help others sympathize with the demonstrations and the reason for them if the movement leaders would at least acknowledge that the violence got out of hand and apologized.

        They didn’t. Instead they chose to keep shouting their authoritarian motto: “Se a tarifa não baixar, São Paulo vai parar”(If the fares don’t drop, São Paulo will stop).

    • spacedmonkey says:

      Typically in America, though there have been a few exceptions, the ones doing stuff like this are agents provocateurs.  I don’t know how it works down there though. 

  8. While the International media call us “activists” here in my country BR, nops call marginal and vandals! The thing here is getting uglier. And TODAY we the 4th act against rising ticket. Many people, even some of my friends refuse to go in the acts, saying it has more to do. If for a FIGHT YOUR RIGHT, not having more to do, so I do not know what else is!

    In this link, a Brazilian newspaper called the curse us as ativistar Turkey’s heroes, from there you can see how much is being complicated things here, and hypocrisy increases.https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=627330130612406&set=a.495500630462024.116806.495400383805382&type=1&theater

    • Rafael Roquetto says:

       If a minority of people among the protesters weren’t vandalizing stuff and private property, and if at least the leaders and organizers of the protest would come publicly against it, making it clear they do not endorse it,  it might be that the media wouldn’t have that much ammo. But these people are being stupid, and setting things on fire, literally, won’t help them.

  9. Audiozobe says:

    International attention did nothing to stop police brutality in Québec during the student uprising of last year. So good luck with that.

  10. fakefighter says:

    As a native Paulistana – for the love of God, it’s Sao Paulo!

  11. Ana Botelho says:

    check this out:

    • Rafael Roquetto says:

       Adding some context (unbiased facts) to this picture: This is a cop who tried to prevent the man he is holding from scrawling the wall of the building in the picture, which is located downtown at a location known at Sé Square. He was alone and when he tried to stop the man, he was surrounded by around 10 other manifestants which started yelling things like: “Beat him up, kill him, get his gun”, after having attacked him with a stone (that’s why he is bleeding). He then grabbed his gun, as seen in the picture, but actually did not shoot, to protect himself. As things began to get really ugly, other protesters came into rescue and calmed down the ones who were being more radical. The man was then rushed to the hospital.

      • Antinous / Moderator says:

        You’ve said the same thing half a dozen times. Step away from the keyboard.

        • Rafael Roquetto says:

          Not in this particular case. Where else did I describe pictures here? I was just stating my point of view on other comments, except in this one. I just thought it might be more informative than google translating and pasting here the actual source in badly translated English, but in any case here it is: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2013/06/1294268-lincha-mata-ouviu-policial-apedrejado.shtml

          It includes an inteview with the police officer, and his point of view.

          “Step away from the keyboard” – you don’t have to agree with me, I won’t keep repeating myself anymore, but there is no need for you to be impolite.

      • Navin_Johnson says:

        I like how the phony concern thing is universal. Just as it is here:

        I sympathize (No, actually in reality not really, and I’ll just stay behind my computer and complain about the naughty protesters)

        The minority are undermining the majority (the cause is either legitimate or not)

        Poor police! (bad protestors!)

        Why aren’t the leaders reigning in anarchists? (they’re protests, not corporate office hierarchies)

        Same shit said in this country to try to delegitimize and diminish protests and movements.

        We’ve seen it before dude. Change up the script a bit…

        And God forbid any of these internet warriors actually show up at protests to show how well behaved they can be.

  12. Michael Walsh says:

    I thought Brazil was well into a second administration of a left-wing, populist government. What happened?

    • Bruno Cardoso says:

      That’s the same thing as saying that Texas is well into a second Democratic administration just because President Obama is living in the White House. 

      • Danilo Albergaria says:

        On the top of that, Worker´s Party is far from being precisely left-wing, and that´s happening for a long time, since Lula came to power.

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      San Francisco and Orange County are in the same state, let alone the same country.

  13. meanwhile… in São Paulo…. remember is not only in São Paulo, are movements on Rio de Janeiro and 8 or 9 states  

  14. GloboNews doing a massive media manipulation. Movements happening in Rio de Janeiro, and 7 cities

  15. thais says:

    Well, we are in  a second administration of a left-wing (populist government), but we have corruption government here in Brazil. It is sad but no one believes in government anymore.

  16. Vitor Costa says:

    Journalist been hit by cops, and in the video from the news here they are screaming stop retaliation before cops throw bombs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=043RmwFwero

  17. siegfried says:

    There are some bizarre things happening. In this video, a policeman breaks the window of his own car.  I’m sure he will blame the demonstrators.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxPNQDFcR0U

  18. Another stupic act https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=658874737474532

    • Rafael Roquetto says:

      Thank you for sharing all these links and relevant information.
      After seeing them,  it bacame clear to me that the police is being
      unreasonable is trying to suppress our freedom. This is worse than any
      broken windows…

  19. iamlatam says:

    I recorded some video of the early protesting and police actions from last night’s events in Sao Paulo. I did not stay for the messy bits, but it seemed like the police went out of their way to instigate a group of what seemed to be peaceful protesters.

    http://youtu.be/BUsxNR-I7xg

  20. http://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2013/06/14/bomba-usada-pela-pm-em-protesto-esta-fora-da-validade.htm 

    translated: http://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticias.uol.com.br%2Fcotidiano%2Fultimas-noticias%2F2013%2F06%2F14%2Fbomba-usada-pela-pm-em-protesto-esta-fora-da-validade.htm

    expired gaz pumps

  21. See the end of this video, police firing people in your houses. http://mais.uol.com.br/view/zwuxgmhe6kop/manifestacao-sp–alvejados-pela-policia-dentro-de-casa-04024D1C3170C8A94326?types=A

  22.  Do not come to the World Cup in Brazil .. Let’s boycott the world cup! Brazil is dominated by corrupt politicians. They have spent billions of dollars on football stadiums while the population has no hospitals, infrastructure etc. .. Dilma and Lula are liars! They are communists, wolves in sheep’s clothing. The world should boycott Brazil.

  23. Gabriel de Sá M. says:

    Journalist being beaten by police in protest. http://youtu.be/bilDXQ7Kmvw

  24. newtontor says:

    Police shoots against building during protest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BpHFILT_Yo

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