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  • LISTEN: Interview with Jeff Atwood of Coding Horror

    LISTEN: Interview with Jeff Atwood of Coding Horror

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    Our guest on Gweek this week is Jeff Atwood, a cult hero in the modern computing world. For the last ten years he’s run the popular blog Coding Horror, and is the the co-founder of the question-and-answer websites Stack Overflow, Stack Exchange Network, and Discourse.

    In this discussion with Boing Boing’s software developer, Dean Putney, Jeff shares many good insights about learning. For instance, he says no one really buys giant programming book anymore: “Programmers are learning online from each other now. They just “page fault” in the information. That’s how people learn today.” He also says, “If you want to prove that you understand something, teach it to someone else.”

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    1. Yeah, I agree Mark, it's really unfortunate he didn't make that avatar a male one. But that issue aside, the message of the video is amazing.

      And as alluded to in the leadup by Dean:

      Since it was musical_note just Dean and I musical_note.

      You can decide which of us is Eddie and Crystal, I'm good either way.

    2. It's not only unfortunate, it's deeply disrespectful.

      So walk the talk:

      1. If you see bad behavior from other men, speak up.

      It's not other people's job to make sure that everyone enjoys a safe, respectful, civil environment at work and online.

      It's my job. It's your job. It is our job.

      There is no mythical men's club where it is OK to be a jerk to women. If you see any behavior that gives you pause, behavior that makes you wonder "is that OK?", behavior that you'd be uncomfortable with directed toward your sister, your wife, your daughter – speak up. Honestly, as one man to another. And if that doesn't work for whatever reason, escalate.

      Something like "...great video, but the [gender shaming] is not OK" in the post is the least you can do.

    3. Hi there, maybe you'll see this. I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your podcast discussion.

      Discourse really seems to tackle a lot of issues that create lurkers like me. My default is just reading. I rarely participate because it seems like the main thing people want to do on forums is be critical.

      Like for instance, your exchange with MarkDow. His contribution was an immediate criticism about gender shaming. I relistened to the beginning of the podcast, couldn't find the gender shaming.

      Then I watched the duet which was really nice. No gender shaming there.

      Then read your article about manuals being unnecessary. Then I finally watched the video associated with the article. The guy was kind of sarcastic so I didn't watch enough of it.

      So at this point I've read your article, watched the duet. Spent a few minutes contemplating whether capes with scooped necklines and dangly ear rings were gender shaming.

      Then I found it. After 3:32 in the video below the fold on your article on game design, there's a sequence of a cartoon boy hitting a cartoon girl with punching sounds. Uh oh not good.

      That's why I always end up reading not posting. Because that's what that guy got out of your hour long conversation was a criticism of another guy's graphics in a video you didn't make, but linked.

      Also bananas.

    4. You should post more! smile

    5. And they will fall quickly off the list of discussions if nobody is taking part. Or they will deserve a spot on the list when people do.

      Also, the list of discussions can be filtered by topic. Boing will always bring you to front page article discussions. 'meta', 'games', 'wrath', these are all categories for user generated content, which is encouraged.

      They may not be the -original- topic, but they might a topic being discussed... in parallel to the original.

      @codinghorror encourages use of the (Reply as new topic) button when someone catches themselves being about to be more than 20% off topic. How about when they don't catch themself? I'm not sure most of us here in the peanut gallery are entirely sure when someone else is going to see us that way, and rather than 'clutter up the list of discussions' we might chime in slightly off topic in a way that ends up disrupting the original conversation. But if the community had members empowered to say that a subdiscussion is derailing the original, and can press that button after the fact, it could well aid discussion.

    Continue the discussion bbs.boingboing.net

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